# Faction SKINS should always be available in the faction's LP store **URL:** \ **Category:** Assembly Hall\ **Created:** [March 26, 2019, 5:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/faction-skins-should-always-be-available-in-the-factions-lp-store/148746 "2019-03-26T17:17:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Uriel\_Murk\_Udoria](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_murk_udoria/32/421974_2.png) [@Uriel\_Murk\_Udoria](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_Murk_Udoria)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2019, 5:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/faction-skins-should-always-be-available-in-the-factions-lp-store/148746/1 "2019-03-26T17:17:01Z")
I’m proposing that faction SKINS, should always be available for LP in the faction’s LP store. I understand, as a vanity item, the exclusivity of SKINS has a value to some players (And I would concede special event SKINS are another matter entirely). But given that CCP real world time and resources are put into these, and they essentially exist as 0s and 1s, and are vanity items, they should if themed around a faction (and would be far better justified in initial expense in making) be made available as a loyalty point with ISK purchasable item in LP stores. I feel the collector mentality of a limited time item, in the case of faction SKINS, is far more out weighed by the larger group of players that would appreciate reasonable access\* to such SKINS to show in game identifying with their chosen faction. It comes down to an immersion issue and gain for a larger group of players, versus that of a smaller group. I have not read a sound technological reason put forward on why this is not doable for CCP. But if such exist, I’d be interested to hear it. \*(Hundred million plus ISK SKINS is not reasonable access, especially when that price is based on artificial limited supply) ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2019, 10:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/faction-skins-should-always-be-available-in-the-factions-lp-store/148746/2 "2019-03-26T22:59:06Z")
If we ever get faction skins, this is probably a good idea. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_Murk\_Udoria](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_murk_udoria/32/421974_2.png) [@Uriel\_Murk\_Udoria](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_Murk_Udoria)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2019, 12:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/faction-skins-should-always-be-available-in-the-factions-lp-store/148746/3 "2019-03-27T00:13:03Z")
Right, should clarify, when I say faction I mean corporations and other entities, not just the four ‘main factions.’ ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2019, 12:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/faction-skins-should-always-be-available-in-the-factions-lp-store/148746/4 "2019-03-27T00:56:08Z")
Do you know if CCP have the tech to make them only applicable if you meet requirements such as standing or FW membership? @Uriel_Murk_Udoria Even if they go into lp stores expect 100 mil+, but not billions. ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2019, 1:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/faction-skins-should-always-be-available-in-the-factions-lp-store/148746/5 "2019-03-27T01:00:06Z")
yes, easily. just simple coding. ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2019, 1:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/faction-skins-should-always-be-available-in-the-factions-lp-store/148746/6 "2019-03-27T01:00:47Z")
there are faction skins, serpentis, guristas hell even the intaki syndicate have a ‘skin’ set. ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2019, 1:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/faction-skins-should-always-be-available-in-the-factions-lp-store/148746/7 "2019-03-27T01:03:37Z")
Ah, got it. ---
**Author:** ![Bataav](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bataav/32/502151_2.png) [@Bataav](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bataav)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2019, 1:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/faction-skins-should-always-be-available-in-the-factions-lp-store/148746/8 "2019-03-29T13:10:12Z")
I’d love to see this happen. As others have said, there are a number of NPC corp and minor faction themed SKINs already out there, and to have them available via their respective LP stores would be great. Additionally, the recent CSM minutes (I think, correct me if I’m wrong) talked briefly about people’s frustrations around some of the older SKINs being discontinued. My understanding is that there are limitations on the sheer volume of SKINs out there that prevent all of them being available all of the time. Could the LP store be a solution to this issue? ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2019, 1:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/faction-skins-should-always-be-available-in-the-factions-lp-store/148746/9 "2019-04-03T01:23:29Z")
I don’t think so - at least, if the LP is a solution, I’d think the NES could also be one. Regardless, I do think there’s room for more stuff on the store. ---
**Author:** ![Silvien\_Swift](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/silvien_swift/32/376083_2.png) [@Silvien\_Swift](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Silvien_Swift)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2019, 10:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/faction-skins-should-always-be-available-in-the-factions-lp-store/148746/10 "2019-04-03T10:15:38Z")
> **[Next Batch Of SKIN Retirement Sales In The New Eden Store! | EVE Online](https://www.eveonline.com/de/article/p5l9om/next-batch-of-skin-retirement-sales-in-the-new-eden-store)** > > Check out this news item for the latest information on the next batch of SKINs that will be retired from the New Eden Store, and their current discounts while they're in the last week of sale! Do you know what the word retirement means? You have missed an opportunity and now you are whining here. This is pathetic. Buy them in Jita. ---
**Author:** ![Niriam\_DoT](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/niriam_dot/32/283318_2.png) [@Niriam\_DoT](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Niriam_DoT)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2019, 1:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/faction-skins-should-always-be-available-in-the-factions-lp-store/148746/11 "2019-04-03T13:06:05Z")
I’d gladly buy ironblood skin for my devoter. If there were ANY in the market ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_Murk\_Udoria](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_murk_udoria/32/421974_2.png) [@Uriel\_Murk\_Udoria](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_Murk_Udoria)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2019, 3:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/faction-skins-should-always-be-available-in-the-factions-lp-store/148746/12 "2019-04-03T15:16:00Z")
> [@Silvien\_Swift](#): > > You have missed an opportunity and now you are whining here. This is pathetic. Buy them in Jita. I think you may want to step back, and have a moment of personal reflection on how you interact with others online. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2019, 4:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/faction-skins-should-always-be-available-in-the-factions-lp-store/148746/13 "2019-04-03T16:39:29Z")
> [@Uriel\_Murk\_Udoria](#): > > \*(Hundred million plus ISK SKINS is not reasonable access, especially when that price is based on artificial limited supply) I think hundred million plus is perfectly reasonable for something that’s pure vanity. These skins have no effect on your gameplay whatsoever, so there is no problem at all if your ship doesn’t have a skin. If you do want to get a skin, why not pay the price they are? For the few ships I fly I like getting a nice skin or two, even if it’s a few hundred million plus ISK. A few hundred million ISK isn’t much for something you cannot lose in space when you die so I’d rather put this than bling on my ship. If skins were a few million ISK at most, I’d probably buy them all and never look at them again (see exoplanet skins). I’m still pretty new to the game and a few hundred million ISK is a lot of money for me too, but if you’re going to make them much cheaper they’re practically free and meaningless. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_Murk\_Udoria](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_murk_udoria/32/421974_2.png) [@Uriel\_Murk\_Udoria](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_Murk_Udoria)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2019, 6:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/faction-skins-should-always-be-available-in-the-factions-lp-store/148746/14 "2019-04-03T18:00:15Z")
> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > If you do want to get a skin, why not pay the price they are? Some skins aren’t available at any price. > [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > I’m still pretty new to the game and a few hundred million ISK is a lot of money for me too, but if you’re going to make them much cheaper they’re practically free and meaningless. How is making certain SKINS, that represent in game groups the players look for standing with (Corps, pirates, etc) more available by seeding the market, and using loyalty points, lead to them being meaningless? They would very much still have a meaning to the people who did the missions to earn the LP to acquire them. As for price point, and it being in the hundreds of millions, that is a value judgement on which side I fall saying that if CCP resources went into making them, and they are as you point out a non game mechanic impacting vanity item, then the ability to be acquired by an increased and seeded supply and a lower price is worth it as an immersion benefit for a broader amount of players. As a vanity item, of near zero utility, they are more so t-shirts of a band sold at a concert, then they are modern art pieces. ---
**Author:** ![Jagati\_Khan81](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jagati_khan81/32/139190_2.png) [@Jagati\_Khan81](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jagati_Khan81)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2019, 11:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/faction-skins-should-always-be-available-in-the-factions-lp-store/148746/15 "2019-04-03T23:32:21Z")
Skins should be permanently on sale in the NES Imo. As others have said it is just a vanity item that has no impact on gameplay so why limit them in this way. Also seems like bad business sense limits the amount of revenue made through sales and inflates prices in game. Give me a reason to buy plex to spend in the store ccp. As it stands I pay for my accounts and make isk in game not by selling plex etc. If you kept the skins in store I would no doubt collect the ones I want over time thus earning you just a tad more than the big fat 0 I would be currently willing to spend in the NES. ---
**Author:** ![Nunosh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nunosh/32/378366_2.png) [@Nunosh](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nunosh)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2019, 9:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/faction-skins-should-always-be-available-in-the-factions-lp-store/148746/16 "2019-04-04T09:14:20Z")
Even memorabilia stuff ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2019, 9:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/faction-skins-should-always-be-available-in-the-factions-lp-store/148746/17 "2019-07-03T09:14:27Z")
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