# Faction Warfare: prevent plex timers running if ship warp core strength larger than zero to stop botting

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/faction-warfare-prevent-plex-timers-running-if-ship-warp-core-strength-larger-than-zero-to-stop-botting/178636>\
**Category:** Player Features & Ideas\
**Tags:** game-mechanics\
**Created:** [July 28, 2019, 2:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/faction-warfare-prevent-plex-timers-running-if-ship-warp-core-strength-larger-than-zero-to-stop-botting/178636 "2019-07-28T14:12:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugh_crow-slave/32/441552_2.png) [@Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugh_Crow-Slave)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 12:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/faction-warfare-prevent-plex-timers-running-if-ship-warp-core-strength-larger-than-zero-to-stop-botting/178636/17 "2019-07-30T00:58:36Z")

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> [@Makshima\_Shogo](#):
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> You live in wormholes why are you dictating that people in fw need to deal with stabbed retards, stabs are retarded and are abused by risk adverse players.

I have been an avid member of calmil for years…

> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#):
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> Because it’s a PvP site and taking a Venture, a ship with zero PvP ability, is a deliberate commitment that you will never engage in PvP.

except you are engaged in pvp… I don’t think that means what you think that means. You are both players competing for opposing goals. They are just not competing how you wanted them too

> [@Ms\_Steak](#):
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> Because there is a mechanic that explicitly doesnt allow stabbed ships. Venture is an abuse of that mechanic.

No it’s not CCP left the venture deliberately they didn’t forget about it. because you still know its WCS before going into the engagement. It is not hard to bring 1 extra point with your scram to take them out.

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