# Faction Warfare

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/faction-warfare/372238>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [August 3, 2022, 11:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/faction-warfare/372238 "2022-08-03T11:03:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![LunarGlow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lunarglow/32/440833_2.png) [@LunarGlow](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/LunarGlow)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 11:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/faction-warfare/372238/1 "2022-08-03T11:03:10Z")

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I looked into FW for the first time today. It seems like a lot of fun.  
I think there should be a tutorial about this. Ingame i mean. Basic mechanics like signing up or well, doing something.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 11:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/faction-warfare/372238/2 "2022-08-03T11:05:54Z")

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I think its on the way.

There was big things in the pipeline about FW according to CCP.

SoonTM

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**Author:** ![Geminus\_Duolphus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geminus_duolphus/32/329938_2.png) [@Geminus\_Duolphus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geminus_Duolphus)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 11:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/faction-warfare/372238/3 "2022-08-03T11:48:54Z")

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Faction warfare is good fun, the most important thing to understand is it will trash your standings with some empire factions.

This means the safest faction to side with is Caldari, they don’t necessarily have the best lp store, but you won’t cut yourself off from Jita. If you have a hauling alt or pay the frogs though that concern can be negated.

In my experience most public pvp roams leave from Jita so you won’t hamper future pvp aspirations for that toon either.

That being said you can fix faction standings it is just a slog.

The best way currently you learn about FW is to join a FW corp. in my opinion the roleplaying FW corps have the most fun because it’s not just about grinding that LP for the market.

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**Author:** ![Kezrai\_Charzai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kezrai_charzai/32/394578_2.png) [@Kezrai\_Charzai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kezrai_Charzai)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 12:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/faction-warfare/372238/4 "2022-08-03T12:04:11Z")

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There are various guides and videos for it, easy to google. Two helpful ones are:

[https://wiki.bravecollective.com/public/dojo/wiki/faction\_warfare](https://wiki.bravecollective.com/public/dojo/wiki/faction_warfare)

> **[Novice Frigates Yearbook 2021.pdf](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IriZDp5vFOoFFpuJKmg9Tj0sEdXwaPUs/view)**
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> Google Drive file.

Faction standings are an issue. Best to either try it out with an alt or new account, or plan to spend time repairing them later.

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**Author:** ![OT\_Smithers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ot_smithers/32/431246_2.png) [@OT\_Smithers](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/OT_Smithers)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 12:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/faction-warfare/372238/5 "2022-08-03T12:59:47Z")

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Has CCP announced anywhere what these upcoming changes might be?

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**Author:** ![Geminus\_Duolphus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geminus_duolphus/32/329938_2.png) [@Geminus\_Duolphus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geminus_Duolphus)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/faction-warfare/372238/6 "2022-08-03T13:05:06Z")

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It’s likely to be pretty vague still especially with the flak they took for announcing the industry changes too early and having to change some of them after.

There has been some mention within the community of pirate FW but I don’t know where that originated. I am a little excited by it though.

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**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 6:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/faction-warfare/372238/7 "2022-08-03T18:07:22Z")

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> [@OT\_Smithers](#):
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> Has CCP announced anywhere what these upcoming changes might be?

Yes here:

> **[State of the Union | EVE Online](https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/state-of-the-union)**
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> Factional Warfare & Frontlines

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 10:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/faction-warfare/372238/8 "2022-08-03T22:01:14Z")

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I need to read it fully and I have a few things I must attend to before hand but from what I had read over your threads here gives me a possitive outlook in FW being a fun activity in New Eden.

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**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2022, 4:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/faction-warfare/372238/9 "2022-08-04T04:29:19Z")

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fw is awesome  
also is a nice option for new players  
people on the militia chats are very helpful and accepting of noobs  
I’ve being paying my omega + my stuff for years exclusively doing FW  
welcome to the fight o7

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**Author:** ![Geminus\_Duolphus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geminus_duolphus/32/329938_2.png) [@Geminus\_Duolphus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geminus_Duolphus)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2022, 7:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/faction-warfare/372238/10 "2022-08-04T07:50:50Z")

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Another important thing to know that I wasn’t told when I started.

Just because they are on the same side in the war doesn’t mean they won’t shoot you. If someone flies into your site they are probably an awoxer.

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**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2022, 3:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/faction-warfare/372238/11 "2022-08-04T15:45:15Z")

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> [@Geminus\_Duolphus](#):
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> Just because they are on the same side in the war doesn’t mean they won’t shoot you. If someone flies into your site they are probably an awoxer.

the faction standing lost for awoxing is GIGANTIC  
that said you are right …  
its very common in the caldari militia  
its very uncommon in the amarr one  
BTW  
stop that guys 😠

other thing , some noobies don’t change their overview ( usually called unfuck your overview) wen join FW  
its super important , wen you join the militia chat insta open , ask for a good overview , they will provide you, that way you know who you will shot

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2022, 9:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/faction-warfare/372238/12 "2022-08-04T21:20:20Z")

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> [@tutucox\_Khamsi](#):
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> people on the militia chats are very helpful and accepting of noobs

What of these military chats you speak (yiddish…vos fun di militerish tshats ir redn)

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**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2022, 10:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/faction-warfare/372238/13 "2022-08-04T22:25:22Z")

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> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#):
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> What of these military chats you speak

if i understand you right  
wen you enlist in the militia , a chat opens , the chat contains all player and NPC corps enlisted in that militia

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2022, 10:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/faction-warfare/372238/14 "2022-08-04T22:41:47Z")

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Do I have to be in a NPC corp?

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**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2022, 11:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/faction-warfare/372238/15 "2022-08-04T23:26:09Z")

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> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#):
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> Do I have to be in a NPC corp?

no , you can enlist a corp in the militia

example:

 ![Captura de Tela 2022-08-04 às 20.28.08](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/e/1/de19895763a91f7dc113949f099adb3f92e9d9ad.png)  
player corp ailed to the glorious amarr empire

 ![Captura de Tela 2022-08-04 às 20.29.35](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/2/7/8273de2cf6a4a228635bbec6f5ba6f65890e79de.png)  
best NPC corp ever

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**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2022, 4:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/faction-warfare/372238/16 "2022-08-06T04:02:30Z")

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some say EVE doesn’t have PVP anymore  
20 minutes section  
3 different fights , 3 deaths , 4 kills

like i said , im geting my ass kicked this month , even so  
i already have my plex , and + 1 billion in the wallet

FUN ™  
JOIN FW NAW

 ![Captura de Tela 2022-08-06 às 01.05.03](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/c/e/bcead8cf59f8b3cbf797e4501368f46d0ffc653e.jpeg)

edit:  
btw the fights are meaningful and if you are not suicidal like me deaths are preventable

1. stupid me facing a kiki alone in my coercer , 1% of the time it works
2. some mimies jumped and me an a random alied (not in fleet) faced 3 (or 4 duno), super nice fight
3. stupid me attacked 2 neutrals taking sentry damage (gate turrets attack you if you shot neutrals in LS), the sentry did 50% of the damage at least i took the kiki with me, could have wait for them attack first but i was afraid of kiki bail

real pew no f1 monkey join naw

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**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2022, 11:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/faction-warfare/372238/17 "2022-08-06T11:02:20Z")

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> [@tutucox\_Khamsi](#):
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> no , you can enlist a corp in the militia
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> example:
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> ![Captura de Tela 2022-08-04 às 20.28.08](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/e/1/de19895763a91f7dc113949f099adb3f92e9d9ad.png)
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> player corp ailed to the glorious amarr empire
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> ![Captura de Tela 2022-08-04 às 20.29.35](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/2/7/8273de2cf6a4a228635bbec6f5ba6f65890e79de.png)
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> best NPC corp ever

![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/3/3/f/33fd63fdbfa9697aa2538d926ab1e537b5b6d7be.gif)  
_pukes_

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**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2022, 1:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/faction-warfare/372238/18 "2022-08-07T01:13:30Z")

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> [@Geminus\_Duolphus](#):
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> Faction warfare is good fun, the most important thing to understand is it will trash your standings with some empire factions.

No, it doesn’t affect your empire standings. I’ve been in Caldari militia for a bit, blew up/shot tons of Gallente militia, captured a bunch of plexes and:

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/9/b/e9b262d6665344f2eeaccf455ffae6db1af5bf88.png)

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/d/4/cd4858a40bc4384f3419824bf278923a48610036.png)

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**Author:** ![Geminus\_Duolphus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geminus_duolphus/32/329938_2.png) [@Geminus\_Duolphus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geminus_Duolphus)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2022, 1:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/faction-warfare/372238/19 "2022-08-07T01:17:28Z")

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Your gallente federation is at -1.87?

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**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2022, 1:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/faction-warfare/372238/20 "2022-08-07T01:23:22Z")

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And? I ran Caldari missions until I was 5.7 with Cal State. I have run very few Gallente missions. A portion of your standings are _derived_. But no portion of my Gallente standings are the result of Factional Warfare. Here:

![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/6/5/f65c482cdbf4366f053c458afe002e96ddf2b00c.png)

![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/7/8/9/789a369f86bf85fed010c1844c70acb8f2576775.png)

![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/0/b/10b5836abf921acac702db750ec1d791018c2afa.png)

![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/3/b/5/3b51b620ab211da9ce677900de048febe455bbf2.png)

The only FW activities that affect your standings are: killing FW mission NPCs (applies to regular missions as well btw), killing the rats in complexes, and being promoted. But these changes are miniscule. There are people in CalMil who have done FW for years and are still positive with Gallente Federation. It’s not something to have any concern over.

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