# Factional Warfare Feedback Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Factional Warfare\ **Created:** [December 9, 2022, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/factional-warfare-feedback-thread/387549 "2022-12-09T13:05:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2025, 12:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/factional-warfare-feedback-thread/387549/268 "2025-02-26T00:55:03Z")
Care to look at plexing site designs too ? They’re in much needed overhaul as to not be piled in and overfarmed by multiboxers who do so with little to zero risk. Make the multiboxers as more « engageable » content by small gangs or even solo players. Ie: Split the small to large plexes into multi-rooms with more than one objective to complete the site. Force multiboxers to divide their fleet and make them more attractive to engage. Thanks . O7 ---
**Author:** ![Lexil\_KahoudiTR](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lexil_kahouditr/32/486834_2.png) [@Lexil\_KahoudiTR](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lexil_KahoudiTR)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2025, 1:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/factional-warfare-feedback-thread/387549/269 "2025-02-26T01:02:13Z")
Nice idea many times i saw many multiboxers name as box1box2box3box4box5 kinda More than one simple objective might block multiboxers But i assume ccp is happy with multiboxing and many online character as one human player it means many omega many plex sale and more online player so I assume that plan wont be happen ---
**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2025, 7:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/factional-warfare-feedback-thread/387549/270 "2025-02-26T07:08:24Z")
Of course they’re happy with them. The plan isnt to remove or block them, but to integrate them into a more dynamic and engageable content. ---
**Author:** ![Yalla-Habibi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yalla-habibi/32/450034_2.png) [@Yalla-Habibi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yalla-Habibi)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2025, 3:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/factional-warfare-feedback-thread/387549/271 "2025-03-12T15:25:20Z")
Angel Pilot here: Would absolutely love having more than 1 color (orange) for different factions. Since there are three factions now fighting each other (minmatar, amarr, angels) and (gallente, caldari and Guristas). It makes more sense to have option. when I jump into a full system, it will be helpful to understand the general gist of system by having two color codes. It should open up some more strategic depth. ---
**Author:** ![Jabali\_Javee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jabali_javee/32/416429_2.png) [@Jabali\_Javee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jabali_Javee)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2025, 5:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/factional-warfare-feedback-thread/387549/272 "2025-03-12T17:43:29Z")
Today’s patch was really good, thank you! Waiting for the Civil War update now. ---
**Author:** ![Jabali\_Javee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jabali_javee/32/416429_2.png) [@Jabali\_Javee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jabali_Javee)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2025, 5:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/factional-warfare-feedback-thread/387549/273 "2025-03-12T17:47:31Z")
Just make my Civil War idea go forward 🥳 No need for upwells, being militia related groups opens up the old wardec system, make it 0 isk fee or tiny minimal symbolic LP fee. 1. fully enlistd militia corp wardecs militia: it is fine, both are in eternal wars already, they signed for war 2. fully enlisted militia corp wardecs an already wardecable corp (upwell people) if they have direct enlisted individuals: still fine, the defenders were wardecable already We will fix awoxing and seagulling bullet by bullet > [@Factional Civil War](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/factional-civil-war/470288): > > Nullsec has power over space, give power over war to the militias! Allow enlisted corporations to declare war for free on any corporation related to the same warzone, without the need to anchor any POS. SHORT EXPLANATION FOR FIVE YEAR OLDS: My vision for this is that attackers and defenders wouldn’t need an upwell structure. The only requirement for the new war declaration system would be having ties to the warzone. It’s quite similar to the old system, but now it’s confined to groups that ar… I still don’t know how to fix the problem of having neutral corps with every possible alt direct enlisted in FW who will just seagull and overgrid every site, in many cases they are spy alts from the other militia, my alt got kicked out the militia **twice** in a week for shooting them. Today’s update helped a bit already, thanks ---
**Author:** ![Jabali\_Javee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jabali_javee/32/416429_2.png) [@Jabali\_Javee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jabali_Javee)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2025, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/factional-warfare-feedback-thread/387549/274 "2025-03-12T18:17:35Z")
and even wardec the npc militia corps ---
**Author:** ![Salartarium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salartarium/32/468818_2.png) [@Salartarium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salartarium)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2025, 9:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/factional-warfare-feedback-thread/387549/275 "2025-03-13T09:29:09Z")
> [@CCP\_Swift](#): > > we are aware of how significant the awoxing issue (killing friendlies) is to the FW/Insurgency ecosystem. @Awox do you have someone on retainer yet to deal with all this slander? ---
**Author:** ![adriaans](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/adriaans/32/453383_2.png) [@adriaans](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/adriaans)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2025, 7:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/factional-warfare-feedback-thread/387549/276 "2025-03-13T19:23:23Z")
Good, because we literally have groups of players who are even bragging about how they only attack players from the same faction (minmatar in this case, and not over capture sites, they just gatecamp and shoot other minmatar pilots). They should get kicked out when they do this, ideally with strong penalties and unable to rejoin. ---
**Author:** ![Jabali\_Javee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jabali_javee/32/416429_2.png) [@Jabali\_Javee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jabali_Javee)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2025, 1:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/factional-warfare-feedback-thread/387549/277 "2025-03-14T01:05:23Z")
each case it is a different case, it depends who killed who gotta spill the beans and tell the names, many awoxing cases are valid since minmil has a lot of amarr spy alts, awoxers and seagulls ---
**Author:** ![Grandpa\_Fogie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/grandpa_fogie/32/396035_2.png) [@Grandpa\_Fogie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Grandpa_Fogie)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2025, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/factional-warfare-feedback-thread/387549/278 "2025-03-25T16:29:06Z")
Concerning the role of Wardecs in faction warfare space and the role of faction warfare as an introductory experience to PvP combat: War Declarations appear to have become relevant in some Faction Warfare spaces in relation to killing of friendly militia members (to work around standings loss). Seeing as how a character can currently ignore the standings hit for killing friendly militia members (via inheriting Corp standings) I wonder if adjusting enlistment to consider character standings instead, and letting War Declarations facilitate the in-fighting within factions, would address some of the extreme scenarios of friendly kills and result in a more structured and intuitive FW experience. ---
**Author:** ![Jabali\_Javee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jabali_javee/32/416429_2.png) [@Jabali\_Javee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jabali_Javee)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2025, 1:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/factional-warfare-feedback-thread/387549/279 "2025-03-27T13:32:29Z")
These 1 day old six algoses in the NPC militia corp (TLIB) people landed in the Open having 2:30 minutes left on the timer, it is one multiboxer with 6 alts, he plays with 6 just like me. FW became resource wars, nothing more. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/6/f/0/6f0e7d42e08db5c673ab708a1fe39039870361a5.webp) Why do I have to suffer faction standings for killing people like that? We should be able to at least do unilateral mutual wars without expiry date or a very long duration like a month. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/5/c/d5cf4d377ec0215e217a177fc9fe45c0f039f592.webp) They don’t get kicked out the militia for stealing everyday, after I killed two algoses then Fraternity showed up with +30 and came to chase me in the Med-3 LMAO We need the civil war and we need to wardec militia related corporations as unilateral mutual war, I don’t want to have an upwell and have to do armor timers against Fraternity, just let me shoot everybody in peace. If Frats screw me over in FW I want to wardec them in the old system and camp Jita just to kill them over and over. Unilateral mutual war! ---
**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2025, 7:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/factional-warfare-feedback-thread/387549/280 "2025-03-29T07:30:00Z")
Dont get your hopes up. FW is gone, dead and rotten imo. And it’s clear with the last update that CCPs willingness to fix the problem went as far as changing a single line of code… Just go play some other game, or find something else to do ingame. Best advice I can give atm. ---
**Author:** ![Nujenif\_Talvanen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nujenif_talvanen/32/433113_2.png) [@Nujenif\_Talvanen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nujenif_Talvanen)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 6:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/factional-warfare-feedback-thread/387549/282 "2025-04-01T18:01:21Z")
Sedition and Divine Damnation wardec Frat in Angels. That way we can run out their multiboxing fleets and take sites with little time left! In addition I can freely kite around killing their drones which irritates the heck out of them. FW is alive, well, and thriving. My alpha clone solo cruisers get tons of fights and the people I fight are kind and good sports most of the time, win or lose. ---
**Author:** ![Jabali\_Javee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jabali_javee/32/416429_2.png) [@Jabali\_Javee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jabali_Javee)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 7:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/factional-warfare-feedback-thread/387549/283 "2025-04-01T19:54:38Z")
We absolutely need wars within Faction Warfare (FW), but we should have a war declaration system similar to the old one, limited to those already enlisted. Otherwise, we’re stuck anchoring an Upwell structure and defending it against groups like Frat, who could show up with 100-500 players, destroy your station, and end the wardec. ---
**Author:** ![Lukas\_Murch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lukas_murch/32/478948_2.png) [@Lukas\_Murch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lukas_Murch)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/factional-warfare-feedback-thread/387549/284 "2025-04-05T11:32:08Z")
Maybe @Awox is the king of all awoxing. So notorious, they named it after him. Maybe he’s pleased. ---
**Author:** ![Manjka\_Obligacija](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/manjka_obligacija/32/456412_2.png) [@Manjka\_Obligacija](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Manjka_Obligacija)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2025, 12:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/factional-warfare-feedback-thread/387549/285 "2025-04-06T12:02:16Z")
Hello! Does CCP have any plans to do anything with the frat avoxers? Without getting any punishment, they shoot blues at the gate. It really takes away the desire to play. I understand that Eve can shoot everyone, but it’s not normal that I can’t get revenge on them without losing my standing. On the other hand, they use the corporation standing and do it with complete impunity. ---
**Author:** ![MiningAttitude](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/miningattitude/32/456653_2.png) [@MiningAttitude](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MiningAttitude)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 5:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/factional-warfare-feedback-thread/387549/286 "2025-04-08T17:45:25Z")
Fix the UI to say that factions require base standings, not derived standings, to be 0.0 ---
**Author:** ![Tristan\_daCuhna](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tristan_dacuhna/32/407882_2.png) [@Tristan\_daCuhna](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tristan_daCuhna)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2025, 3:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/factional-warfare-feedback-thread/387549/287 "2025-04-11T15:09:56Z")
I know we rejoiced when it was first announced but upon reflection, direct enlistment was a mistake. Please delete it so we can return to a golden age of recruitment into the dedicated FW corps, drive more sustained activity within FW lowsec and thus create content for FW players and those who come to hunt them. ---
**Author:** ![Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiger_space_thedark/32/373728_2.png) [@Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiger_space_Thedark)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2025, 9:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/factional-warfare-feedback-thread/387549/288 "2025-04-15T09:50:28Z")
solution is simple: copy paste the triglavian invasion and make that some certain system are under attack and you have to conquer/defend it [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/factional-warfare-feedback-thread/387549.md?page=13) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/factional-warfare-feedback-thread/387549.md?page=15)