# Falling Active Player Numbers **URL:** \ **Category:** Assembly Hall\ **Created:** [January 13, 2021, 8:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/falling-active-player-numbers/289879 "2021-01-13T08:07:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2022, 3:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/falling-active-player-numbers/289879/330 "2022-03-21T15:54:11Z")
I didn’t even realize it was my cake day. Nice. ---
**Author:** ![Ryan\_B\_Thiesant](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ryan_b_thiesant/32/293156_2.png) [@Ryan\_B\_Thiesant](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ryan_B_Thiesant)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2022, 11:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/falling-active-player-numbers/289879/331 "2022-03-30T11:43:52Z")
> [@Gragnor](#): > > 1. I don’t like being a perpetual prey item. I get that this is a pvp game, but as a new player, I cannot compete with a griefer that gets his jollies sitting at a gate blowing everything up that passes. That’s just one of a few hundred examples of how new folks are screwed over. That isn’t to say there are not really nice folks playing the game… but it doesn’t take that many bad apples to make it “unfun”. A little risk is reasonable… but come on… it has gotten silly. > 2. Evil, inconsiderate, self serving morals are ENCOURAGED in this game. Why would any parent who figures that out even ALLOW their kid to play this game? > There are no real reprocussions from being a criminal, griefer, or scammer. Society needs some semblance of law an order to function. This game tends to ignore the value of “society”. > > Um, welcome to Eve, where being an evil, twisted, despicable, cheating prick is considered a compliment and treachery is considred good game play. But don’t worry, I guess we can go back in Time soon and maybe it didn’t happen. Just wait until the PG new bro tears start to fall. Their tears will be very very salty. Whilst I am sympathetic to your plight. what has this got to do with falling player numbers. You appear to be still playing whilst being ganked. ---
**Author:** ![Ryan\_B\_Thiesant](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ryan_b_thiesant/32/293156_2.png) [@Ryan\_B\_Thiesant](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ryan_B_Thiesant)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2022, 12:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/falling-active-player-numbers/289879/332 "2022-03-30T12:21:26Z")
> [@Brisc\_Rubal](#): > > > [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](#): > > > > Still pushing the sandbox lie huh > > It’s still a sandbox, even if it’s got more rules than it used to. The sandbox just means what one person does can affect another in the same box. Like one or more people playing in a sandbox with the same sand. What do you think sandbox means? ---
**Author:** ![Leggone\_Stracks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/leggone_stracks/32/290900_2.png) [@Leggone\_Stracks](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Leggone_Stracks)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2022, 6:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/falling-active-player-numbers/289879/333 "2022-03-30T18:48:25Z")
I took a year and several months off due to the Trig theft of systems and the unnecessary lingering were guns and gunstars that will blap you if you were foolish enough to actually think you could prevent Trig super-nerfs. Yeah. It was interesting, but I think of it as taking away the eight squares in a row on the bottom of a chess board and gluing 7 of them on the side as another column. Wow! Now isn’t the game of chess so much more interesting. ---
**Author:** ![Leggone\_Stracks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/leggone_stracks/32/290900_2.png) [@Leggone\_Stracks](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Leggone_Stracks)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2022, 6:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/falling-active-player-numbers/289879/334 "2022-03-30T18:51:17Z")
Honest question. How does one multi box 10 Alpha accounts? Are we talking separate virtual machines running “different” eve software sets? ---
**Author:** ![Leggone\_Stracks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/leggone_stracks/32/290900_2.png) [@Leggone\_Stracks](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Leggone_Stracks)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2022, 6:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/falling-active-player-numbers/289879/335 "2022-03-30T18:54:19Z")
Are these 6 alphas on separate computers or VM’s? ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2022, 7:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/falling-active-player-numbers/289879/336 "2022-03-30T19:55:33Z")
> [@Leggone\_Stracks](#): > > Honest question. How does one multi box 10 Alpha accounts? Are we talking separate virtual machines running “different” eve software sets? VMs, containers or separate physical machines. Yes. The client won’t let you launch an alpha if an omega is already logged in, or launch more than one character if an alpha is already in game. To get around that, you’d need an instance of the client for every alpha or alpha/omega combination that you want to launch. Still totally against the EULA and fully bannable if anyone does it. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2022, 8:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/falling-active-player-numbers/289879/337 "2022-03-30T20:11:17Z")
> [@Scipio\_Artelius](#): > > or alpha/omega combination They no longer allow alpha/omega combination logins. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2022, 8:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/falling-active-player-numbers/289879/338 "2022-03-30T20:15:21Z")
> [@Xeux](#): > > They no longer allow alpha/omega combination logins. Yeah exactly. You’d need separate instances of the client to do it. ---
**Author:** ![Leggone\_Stracks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/leggone_stracks/32/290900_2.png) [@Leggone\_Stracks](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Leggone_Stracks)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2022, 9:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/falling-active-player-numbers/289879/339 "2022-03-30T21:25:20Z")
So some kind of traceroute checking might catch them if they are NAT’d behind a single cable modem. I’d think CCP would REALLY hunt botters using Alphas. Maybe have the local clients look around to see if there are other clients on their subnet and validate with them. THIS IS WAR!!! ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 9:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/falling-active-player-numbers/289879/340 "2022-06-28T21:25:25Z")
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