# Fanfest 2018 - 25% Off Omega Sale! **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [April 12, 2018, 5:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fanfest-2018-25-off-omega-sale/69211 "2018-04-12T05:29:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Brigitte\_Schmidt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brigitte_schmidt/32/183061_2.png) [@Brigitte\_Schmidt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brigitte_Schmidt)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2018, 5:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fanfest-2018-25-off-omega-sale/69211/1 "2018-04-12T05:29:22Z")
Hello CCP, you have an error with the “discount” your player base could theoretically make by purchasing the 12-month subscription. Total: €98.55 You save €80.85 Normal subscription cost was always around 130,XY€, which means that customers save around 30,XY€ and not 80.85€. Amazon does it correctly: $98.55 (from $131.40); Save $32.85 (25%). … ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2018, 5:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fanfest-2018-25-off-omega-sale/69211/2 "2018-04-12T05:47:25Z")
CCP marketing has learned from the narcotics police. Instead of saying they found a pound worth $100, they say they found 450 grams worth $1000 (if sold by the gram). So CCP compares not apples to apples (12 month to 12 month), they compare apples to watermelons (12 month to paying for a year one month at a time). You’ll get used to how underhanded CCP marketing is pretty quick. Mr Epeen 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![Rexxar\_Santaro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rexxar_santaro/32/420075_2.png) [@Rexxar\_Santaro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rexxar_Santaro)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2018, 5:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fanfest-2018-25-off-omega-sale/69211/3 "2018-04-12T05:53:08Z")
Those calculations are based on a normal 1 month subscription without any discount - around $15/month. $15\*12 = $180 Normal year sub was around $130 --\> $50 save. With this discount of 25% it’s $180 - $98.55 = $81.45 **Calculations were made based on how much money we can save with 1 year sub under this discount.** Sadly, the discount time interval is very ‘thin’ P.S. I don’t remember previous prices exactly. ---
**Author:** ![Dyver\_Phycad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dyver_phycad/32/358575_2.png) [@Dyver\_Phycad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dyver_Phycad)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2018, 6:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fanfest-2018-25-off-omega-sale/69211/4 "2018-04-12T06:01:07Z")
> [@Rexxar\_Santaro](#): > > Calculations were made based on how much money we can save with 1 year sub under this discount. A 1 year subscription was 130 Euros. Basing the savings on the 1-month subscription multiplied by 12 instead of the 1 year subscription just so that the numbers look bigger than they actually are is again a nice example of deceptive marketing by CCP. Great job. ---
**Author:** ![Rexxar\_Santaro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rexxar_santaro/32/420075_2.png) [@Rexxar\_Santaro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rexxar_Santaro)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2018, 6:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fanfest-2018-25-off-omega-sale/69211/5 "2018-04-12T06:07:17Z")
> [@Dyver\_Phycad](#): > > A 1 year subscription was 130 Euros. Basing the savings on the 1-month subscription multiplied by 12 instead of the 1 year subscription just so that the numbers look bigger than they actually are is again a nice example of deceptive marketing by CCP. Great job. Hmm, I mean a 1 month sub without discount was $15 or something near. So, $15 \* 12 months = $180 based if we will pay **monthly** during a year. A year sub is $130 - we saving $50 compared to $180. A year sub with discount is $98.55 - we saving $80 compared to $180. This is the calculation order. If I’m not wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Dyver\_Phycad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dyver_phycad/32/358575_2.png) [@Dyver\_Phycad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dyver_Phycad)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2018, 6:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fanfest-2018-25-off-omega-sale/69211/6 "2018-04-12T06:10:24Z")
That is CCP’s calculation order, not the order it is supposed to be: 1 year sub did not cost 180. It cost 130. What 12 x 1-month sub cost is irrelevant … unless you are CCP marketing person. Or if it was worded differently to indicate that the savings are compared to 1-month sub x months, not compared to the previous price of the multi-month package. But the old prices aren’t even listed, so a customer doesn’t even know them and can compare the actual savings. Another layer of deception and I am fairly sure not even allowed according to EU law. ---
**Author:** ![Rexxar\_Santaro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rexxar_santaro/32/420075_2.png) [@Rexxar\_Santaro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rexxar_Santaro)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2018, 6:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fanfest-2018-25-off-omega-sale/69211/7 "2018-04-12T06:16:13Z")
IDK, man. This calculation model is used by other organizations in: banking, marketing. It’s some sort of granular economy, while any kind of rates with discounts and presents are based on some ‘basic/atomic value’. ---
**Author:** ![Dyver\_Phycad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dyver_phycad/32/358575_2.png) [@Dyver\_Phycad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dyver_Phycad)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2018, 6:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fanfest-2018-25-off-omega-sale/69211/8 "2018-04-12T06:19:52Z")
Then you need to say so. In the past, no discount was based on the 1-month sub. Every discount in the past was, rightfully and correctly, based on the original price of the respective multi-month package. And CCP had the original price listed. That’s how it is supposed to be, and Amazon, as indicated in the first post, did it correctly. ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/e/2/e29eef2544486d40ed17617b25f61d14b414b981.jpg) Like this, for example. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2018, 6:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fanfest-2018-25-off-omega-sale/69211/9 "2018-04-12T06:43:22Z")
> [@Brigitte\_Schmidt](#): > > Amazon does it correctly: $98.55 (from $131.40); Save $32.85 (25%). Amazon have clearer pricing than CCP internally. Maybe they need to hire someone from Amazon. ---
**Author:** ![Brigitte\_Schmidt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brigitte_schmidt/32/183061_2.png) [@Brigitte\_Schmidt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brigitte_Schmidt)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2018, 5:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fanfest-2018-25-off-omega-sale/69211/10 "2018-04-12T17:52:38Z")
Exactly … I am not sure what is happening with CCP, but I don’t like it. I thought that the state of EvE Online was terrible 4 years ago, but with the recent March release which broke the game clients followed by shady stuff like the given offer … ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 5:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fanfest-2018-25-off-omega-sale/69211/11 "2018-07-11T17:52:40Z")
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