# Feature request: option MTU to collect only nonempty wrecks **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [February 9, 2020, 6:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/feature-request-option-mtu-to-collect-only-nonempty-wrecks/218524 "2020-02-09T18:52:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![FairyTail\_Omaristos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fairytail_omaristos/32/145000_2.png) [@FairyTail\_Omaristos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/FairyTail_Omaristos)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 2:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/feature-request-option-mtu-to-collect-only-nonempty-wrecks/218524/21 "2020-02-10T02:40:11Z")
> [@Jakques\_DeMolay](#): > > all he does is call ppl stupid and tell every one to fk0ff, in every post i see from him. Nope. Just the stupid ones. > [@Jakques\_DeMolay](#): > > PLEASE USE GOD DAMN INTELLECT !!! Deep breaths champ. > [@Jakques\_DeMolay](#): > > do moderators actually moderate the forums? People who disagree with you. They are a thing. ---
**Author:** ![Jerry\_Falcone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jerry_falcone/32/167073_2.png) [@Jerry\_Falcone](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jerry_Falcone)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 5:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/feature-request-option-mtu-to-collect-only-nonempty-wrecks/218524/22 "2020-02-10T05:07:51Z")
if you really think this is a qol improvement, post it there… quit dragging General discussion through the mud. is it really that much a difference you can’t take a T2 tractor, or get someone to come help if you’re able to bring more than 1??? ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 1:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/feature-request-option-mtu-to-collect-only-nonempty-wrecks/218524/23 "2020-02-10T13:42:50Z")
> [@Jakques\_DeMolay](#): > > whats wrong with things that are easier? its a game, why things should be more routine or boring? It’s a pvp sandbox where everyone competes on the market. Easier = safer = more profitable = competitive advantage. Eve has gone through a period of making things ‘easier’ and it’s had detrimental effects on risk/reward. > [@Jakques\_DeMolay](#): > > thats why i said normally i shoot empties with drones, but not in abyss, u cant do it. Read the linked thread. > [@Jakques\_DeMolay](#): > > such a tiny quality of life improvement but makes trolls so agitated How can it be only a quality of life improvement if you can get rewards easier, faster, safer? ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 2:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/feature-request-option-mtu-to-collect-only-nonempty-wrecks/218524/24 "2020-02-10T14:31:05Z")
Ill agree to this if all wrecks autoblue. Sound fair? ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 7:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/feature-request-option-mtu-to-collect-only-nonempty-wrecks/218524/25 "2020-02-10T19:30:14Z")
[@ISD](https://forums.eveonline.com/groups/isd), @ISD_Sakimura, @ISD_Bubblemoon Can we get this added to [[Modified] Please make (empty) wrecks in Abyssal space destroyable](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/modified-please-make-empty-wrecks-in-abyssal-space-destroyable/210883) which is same topic and is also conveniently located in the correct forum? Thanks ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 7:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/feature-request-option-mtu-to-collect-only-nonempty-wrecks/218524/26 "2020-02-10T19:32:45Z")
I like turning my wrecks blue while mining when there are two or more MTU’s on-grid from different players and watch the MTU’s fight over a wreck. Good times… ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 7:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/feature-request-option-mtu-to-collect-only-nonempty-wrecks/218524/27 "2020-02-10T19:33:06Z")
> [@Jakques\_DeMolay](#): > > there is already safe PvE instance, its already done > > whats wrong with things that are easier? its a game, why things should be more routine or boring? Because this game has an economy that is not a joke, like others, and easy is the enemy of the economy. Lrn2Sandbox ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 8:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/feature-request-option-mtu-to-collect-only-nonempty-wrecks/218524/28 "2020-02-10T20:26:20Z")
> [@Jakques\_DeMolay](#): > > But would love an option to set on MTU to skip empty wrecks and pull wrecks only with loot. No, ■■■■ off. ---
**Author:** ![Abdullah-Sekir-Bashka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abdullah-sekir-bashka/32/182573_2.png) [@Abdullah-Sekir-Bashka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abdullah-Sekir-Bashka)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 12:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/feature-request-option-mtu-to-collect-only-nonempty-wrecks/218524/29 "2020-02-11T12:44:06Z")
■■■■ you self off. And I’m gonna post this everywhere I see your mental thingy. [![Imgur](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/e/9/e903151c33d9991d996e440a5e339bab3a130e59.jpeg "Imgur") ](https://imgur.com/zjriLYC) ---
**Author:** ![Abdullah-Sekir-Bashka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abdullah-sekir-bashka/32/182573_2.png) [@Abdullah-Sekir-Bashka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abdullah-Sekir-Bashka)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 12:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/feature-request-option-mtu-to-collect-only-nonempty-wrecks/218524/30 "2020-02-11T12:49:04Z")
@ [Jakques DeMolay](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jakques_DeMolay) this can be abused, not a good idea ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 1:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/feature-request-option-mtu-to-collect-only-nonempty-wrecks/218524/31 "2020-02-11T13:26:39Z")
> [@Jakques\_DeMolay](#): > > Crap ton of time wasted on pulling empty wrecks while not every one salvaging them > ( especially in Abyss ) > To save time i kill empty wrecks with drones. > But would love an option to set on MTU to skip empty wrecks and pull wrecks only with loot. The reason for this, is to prevent people from putting down 3, 4 MTUs in close proximity and collecting loot faster. When you try to put down more than 1 MTU next to each other, they play a game of tossing the same empty wreck back and forth. I wouldnt be against a special mtu that costs like 100 times more and with slower tractor beams and much larger m3, but only selects full wrecks. But yeah, it would have to be atleast 1 billion isk to make with the same mechanic of anyone in hisec can shoot it. ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 1:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/feature-request-option-mtu-to-collect-only-nonempty-wrecks/218524/32 "2020-02-11T13:28:00Z")
> [@Abdullah-Sekir-Bashka](#): > > ■■■■ you self off. No, you ■■■■ off. I’m gonna post this everytime I see you respond to Nicolai. I’m a big fan of his and he has a very good, very straight to the point, no nonsense post. ---
**Author:** ![Abdullah-Sekir-Bashka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abdullah-sekir-bashka/32/182573_2.png) [@Abdullah-Sekir-Bashka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abdullah-Sekir-Bashka)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 1:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/feature-request-option-mtu-to-collect-only-nonempty-wrecks/218524/33 "2020-02-11T13:43:34Z")
Very good. With this I only achieve the desired result much faster. It will inevitably come down to a warning or ban on expression. As I wrote, I have nothing against him, but against his mode of expression. If a thread is pointless, you can simply ignore it. Inappropriate language doesn’t belong there and that’s what I fight against from now on. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 2:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/feature-request-option-mtu-to-collect-only-nonempty-wrecks/218524/43 "2020-02-11T14:41:09Z")
> [@Solonius\_Rex](#): > > The reason for this, is to prevent people from putting down 3, 4 MTUs in close proximity and collecting loot faster. When you try to put down more than 1 MTU next to each other, they play a game of tossing the same empty wreck back and forth. Which can easily be fixed by using 5 salvage drone on auto salvage. as soon as your wrecks are above 30 km (IIRC) the drones will savage faster than your 3 MTU will bring wrecks. ---
**Author:** ![Wyk\_Bathana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wyk_bathana/32/374287_2.png) [@Wyk\_Bathana](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wyk_Bathana)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 2:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/feature-request-option-mtu-to-collect-only-nonempty-wrecks/218524/44 "2020-02-11T14:43:40Z")
OP bad idea risk vs reward you have to choose if you wanna spend 30 sec to burn to a (non-empty) wreck or leave it unlooted and take the gate to the next pocket Sorry, but posters above are right: it means making abyssal sites easier since it will give you more time to complete the site, it is not only a question of qol. We already got plenty of threads to make the game easier: “allow us to find and warp to relic sites without the need to scan them”, “make moonbelts only minable by the owner of the athanor”, “make new players unkillable in hi-sec for 30 days”, “make warp instantanous, i don’t like spending time on traveling” … now “make MTU able to collect only nonempty wrecks” goes the same (wrong) way. And as already said in the linked post above, it would change other aspects in the game (ratting etc), not only your own small sandcastle. Tldr: no ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 2:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/feature-request-option-mtu-to-collect-only-nonempty-wrecks/218524/45 "2020-02-11T14:51:25Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > Which can easily be fixed by using 5 salvage drone on auto salvage. as soon as your wrecks are above 30 km (IIRC) the drones will savage faster than your 3 MTU will bring wrecks. Apparently the OP is running abyssal sites, and this is the reason why he wants MTUs to pick up only filled wrecks, so he probably will not be salvaging anything. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 2:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/feature-request-option-mtu-to-collect-only-nonempty-wrecks/218524/46 "2020-02-11T14:56:10Z")
Then I don’t think he has the 300m³ available to carry 3 MTUs. I was saying, that your explanation of the current mechanism in order to prevent a specific usage does not hold, since that specific usage is still available. ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 2:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/feature-request-option-mtu-to-collect-only-nonempty-wrecks/218524/47 "2020-02-11T14:59:24Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > I was saying, that your explanation of the current mechanism in order to prevent a specific usage does not hold, since that specific usage is still available. There are methods around that, sure, but for the most part, most people wont go to that length of effort, which is why we get people liek OP trying to get a better MTU. ---
**Author:** ![FairyTail\_Omaristos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fairytail_omaristos/32/145000_2.png) [@FairyTail\_Omaristos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/FairyTail_Omaristos)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 3:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/feature-request-option-mtu-to-collect-only-nonempty-wrecks/218524/48 "2020-02-11T15:18:31Z")
> [@Abdullah-Sekir-Bashka](#): > > but against his mode of expression “Bc words hurt my feefees” Lmao. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/feature-request-option-mtu-to-collect-only-nonempty-wrecks/218524/49 "2020-02-11T16:20:16Z")
> [@Solonius\_Rex](#): > > most people wont go to that length of effort, it takes literally more effort to move the MTUs 5km than to set your drones on auto salvage. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/feature-request-option-mtu-to-collect-only-nonempty-wrecks/218524.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/feature-request-option-mtu-to-collect-only-nonempty-wrecks/218524.md?page=3)