# Feature request: option MTU to collect only nonempty wrecks **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [February 9, 2020, 6:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/feature-request-option-mtu-to-collect-only-nonempty-wrecks/218524 "2020-02-09T18:52:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 4:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/feature-request-option-mtu-to-collect-only-nonempty-wrecks/218524/50 "2020-02-11T16:49:57Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > it takes literally more effort to move the MTUs 5km than to set your drones on auto salvage. Most people would use their own drones while fighting, then switch to salvage, especially if you are in a large ship and have to deal with frigs. ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Fractal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_fractal/32/260812_2.png) [@ISD\_Fractal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Fractal)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 5:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/feature-request-option-mtu-to-collect-only-nonempty-wrecks/218524/51 "2020-02-11T17:00:22Z")
I removed an off-topic conversation from this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 5:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/feature-request-option-mtu-to-collect-only-nonempty-wrecks/218524/52 "2020-02-11T17:03:00Z")
> [@Solonius\_Rex](#): > > Most people would use their own drones while fighting, then switch to salvage, especially if you are in a large ship and have to deal with frigs. Of course it only makes sense for a ship that can remain still (raven, marauder). But most of the time the figs are easy to handle, especially when the rats take their time slowboating to you. It still is true if you can eg drop several MTU with your noctis. ---
**Author:** ![z0ra\_Berg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/z0ra_berg/32/187042_2.png) [@z0ra\_Berg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/z0ra_Berg)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/feature-request-option-mtu-to-collect-only-nonempty-wrecks/218524/53 "2020-02-11T19:17:57Z")
> [@Jakques\_DeMolay](#): > > MTU effectiveness is directly affecting boredom Well then why don’t you just ■■■■ off? ---
**Author:** ![JuuR\_Zibaoo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/juur_zibaoo/32/375053_2.png) [@JuuR\_Zibaoo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JuuR_Zibaoo)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 7:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/feature-request-option-mtu-to-collect-only-nonempty-wrecks/218524/54 "2020-02-11T19:19:41Z")
@Jakques_DeMolay pleas move it to: [https://forums.eveonline.com/c/technology-research/player-features-ideas](https://forums.eveonline.com/c/technology-research/player-features-ideas) JuuR ---
**Author:** ![z0ra\_Berg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/z0ra_berg/32/187042_2.png) [@z0ra\_Berg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/z0ra_Berg)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 7:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/feature-request-option-mtu-to-collect-only-nonempty-wrecks/218524/55 "2020-02-11T19:21:50Z")
@ISD_Bubblemoon I love your name. \<3 ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2020, 4:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/feature-request-option-mtu-to-collect-only-nonempty-wrecks/218524/56 "2020-02-12T16:33:59Z")
> [@Abdullah-Sekir-Bashka](#): > > ■■■■ you self off. > And I’m gonna post this everywhere I see your mental thingy. Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2020, 4:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/feature-request-option-mtu-to-collect-only-nonempty-wrecks/218524/57 "2020-02-12T16:35:28Z")
> [@Abdullah-Sekir-Bashka](#): > > Inappropriate language doesn’t belong there and that’s what I fight against from now on. The mods think differently so it must be you who is wrong, not I. ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2020, 4:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/feature-request-option-mtu-to-collect-only-nonempty-wrecks/218524/58 "2020-02-12T16:37:32Z")
> [@Jakques\_DeMolay](#): > > forgive me if i am wrong but T2 tractor beams do take a slot in your ship dont they? > > as said previously PLEASE USE GOD DAMN INTELLECT !!! > > and whats the deal with this Omaristos guy, all he does is call ppl stupid and tell every one to fk0ff, in every post i see from him. Perhaps its time to take a little break from the forums and get a pill? > > do moderators actually moderate the forums? lol, translation: HOW THE FK CAN I MIN MAX IF I DONT PUT WEAPONS IN ALL MY SLOTS What a clown. ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2020, 4:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/feature-request-option-mtu-to-collect-only-nonempty-wrecks/218524/59 "2020-02-12T16:40:08Z")
> [@](#): > > ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/b/b/bb9ec301bc87db02dba943a16bb1ae1e0ee6763c.jpeg) Jakques\_DeMolay: > > > such a tiny quality of life improvement > > It’s not a “quality of life” improvement. > > You’re just lazy. The latest care bear fad is that if it can be billed as a QoL improvement it can be changed without feedback. You’d be amazed at how many of these ■■■■■■■■ requests end up in the QoL thread. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2020, 5:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/feature-request-option-mtu-to-collect-only-nonempty-wrecks/218524/60 "2020-02-12T17:54:23Z")
I have seen him post your new meme on other threads - it actually seems more like an homage, not a criticism. Congratulations, Nicolai, you have a loyal follower that will help you monitor the forums. ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2020, 6:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/feature-request-option-mtu-to-collect-only-nonempty-wrecks/218524/61 "2020-02-12T18:05:21Z")
I know, I’m so jealous, he has a groupie and I don’t 💢 ---
**Author:** ![Jakques\_DeMolay](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jakques_demolay/32/222337_2.png) [@Jakques\_DeMolay](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jakques_DeMolay)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 2:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/feature-request-option-mtu-to-collect-only-nonempty-wrecks/218524/62 "2020-02-13T02:01:44Z")
> [@Solonius\_Rex](#): > > The reason for this, is to prevent people from putting down 3, 4 MTUs in close proximity and collecting loot faster. When you try to put down more than 1 MTU next to each other, they play a game of tossing the same empty wreck back and forth. > > I wouldnt be against a special mtu that costs like 100 times more and with slower tractor beams and much larger m3, but only selects full wrecks. But yeah, it would have to be atleast 1 billion isk to make with the same mechanic of anyone in hisec can shoot it. having many MTUs not practical as it will take too much cargo space, You’d need to come back on an Indy to collect it, yet again for abyss not doable, and this is mostly benefiting abyss as the time is very precious there ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 2:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/feature-request-option-mtu-to-collect-only-nonempty-wrecks/218524/63 "2020-02-13T02:03:40Z")
> [@Jakques\_DeMolay](#): > > and this is mostly benefiting abyss as the time is very precious there No, this is for you to be lazy. There’s a trade off in the Abyss. Do you want to risk running out of time or skipping the can? Risk vs Reward. I don’t see any reason this would be implemented other than you not wanting to participate in that risk, but still greedily want the reward. ---
**Author:** ![Jakques\_DeMolay](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jakques_demolay/32/222337_2.png) [@Jakques\_DeMolay](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jakques_DeMolay)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 2:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/feature-request-option-mtu-to-collect-only-nonempty-wrecks/218524/64 "2020-02-13T02:32:41Z")
Majority of users here are mostly concerned that some one would get a sudden benefit without them participating in it, rather than improving overall game experience. Worst thing that could happen if it makes some one’s life easier, and not theirs. Very noble stance 🙂 If that’s how CCP would be developing EVE then not a single update would ever go through. ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 3:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/feature-request-option-mtu-to-collect-only-nonempty-wrecks/218524/65 "2020-02-13T03:08:14Z")
I mean, I’m operation on the assumption that this is a trash idea that CCP is not going to implement. And I’m not seeing any real compelling reason for this to exist. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 3:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/feature-request-option-mtu-to-collect-only-nonempty-wrecks/218524/66 "2020-02-13T03:09:59Z")
To be fair, CCP did introduce the MTU. It was a terrible idea then. It would be a bad idea to improve it, but it would be consistent with CCP’s choices thus far. ---
**Author:** ![Dario\_Kaelenter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dario_kaelenter/32/383143_2.png) [@Dario\_Kaelenter](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dario_Kaelenter)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 3:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/feature-request-option-mtu-to-collect-only-nonempty-wrecks/218524/67 "2020-02-13T03:13:29Z")
MTU’s would be much better if they started on the furthest out wrecks 1st then moved to the closer ones. ---
**Author:** ![z0ra\_Berg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/z0ra_berg/32/187042_2.png) [@z0ra\_Berg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/z0ra_Berg)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 7:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/feature-request-option-mtu-to-collect-only-nonempty-wrecks/218524/68 "2020-02-13T07:11:52Z")
> [@Jakques\_DeMolay](#): > > Majority of users here are mostly concerned that some one would get a sudden benefit without them participating in it, rather than improving overall game experience. Have you ever tried considering that there’s a good reason why MTUs are not only collecting wrecks which contain loot? Have you at least tried? People who don’t try to understand the reasoning behind a design decision tend to only see what they want to see: “I don’t like it, therefore it’s bad and needs to be changed”. Usually everything they implement has some sort of downside. The MTU collecting empty wrecks is one of those downsides. They make it way too easy gathering loot, therefore income, and the empty wrecks are to make sure you’re not just getting what you want, pretty much because you shouldn’t. That’s where you, the player, can step in and help himself by, for example, destroying empty wrecks. This is, still, a game mostly centered around acting self responsibly and helping yourself. Have you TRIED understanding the reasoning behind this design decision? In your initial post I can see none of that. ---
**Author:** ![Jint\_Hikaru](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jint_hikaru/32/387656_2.png) [@Jint\_Hikaru](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jint_Hikaru)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 9:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/feature-request-option-mtu-to-collect-only-nonempty-wrecks/218524/69 "2020-02-13T09:10:59Z")
I posted this in the other EXACTLY THE SAME POST (OP, seriously do some forum searching before you post exactly the same thing that is already in discussion)… Nothing in game should be able to be Automated as well as a player could do it themselves. It only encourages automated play. There should be a benefit to manually doing something. You want to automate your tractoring of wrecks, then you have to have it done at a slightly below average efficiency. **Now, as mentioned in the other thread** , a better solution would be to make wrecks destroy able in anomalies, like they are in the entire rest of the game. This means the player can pop empty wrecks and help the MTU gather the loot quicker. **BINGO: actual player interaction has improved the efficiency of an automated process!** [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/feature-request-option-mtu-to-collect-only-nonempty-wrecks/218524.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/feature-request-option-mtu-to-collect-only-nonempty-wrecks/218524.md?page=4)