# February 2020 Release - General Feedback

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/february-2020-release-general-feedback/218840>\
**Category:** Announcements\
**Tags:** feedback, release, official\
**Created:** [February 11, 2020, 9:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/february-2020-release-general-feedback/218840 "2020-02-11T09:15:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 31

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**Author:** ![Ashterothi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ashterothi/32/459299_2.png) [@Ashterothi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ashterothi)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2020, 6:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/february-2020-release-general-feedback/218840/623 "2020-02-27T18:13:22Z")

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> [@Orca\_Platypus](#):
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> I was a part of full pvp alliance once, and after 3 months of 3 fleets a day I realized that eve pvp is mindnumbingly boring when you win, and even more boring when you don’t. I’m never doing it more than I have to ever again.

Like many things in EVE. You can MAKE PvP boring. Many alliances do. Boring is safe.

> [@Orca\_Platypus](#):
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> Come live in my space. The only way to not find fights here is to actively avoid them at all costs. Especially with fukstupidaments you will get sick of constantly chasing trash around by third hour.

OK. Well where is your space? I am not one for killboard linking to prove a point or anything, but you are the one who made it about your own playstyle.

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**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2020, 6:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/february-2020-release-general-feedback/218840/624 "2020-02-27T18:19:46Z")

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> [@Ashterothi](#):
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> You can MAKE PvP boring.

We fought 20 against 200 and still pulled wins sometimes. It was just as boring as the usual 200 vs 200.  
There is no way to make it fun. It’s a fundamentally boring system. I’d literally rather mine that win another 20 vs 200, because it is less boring.

> [@Ashterothi](#):
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> Boring is safe.

…as all ganktards who have found that ganktarding became safe in nullsec during Derpout were saying, yet it’s the safety of ganktarding that got them out of their jita undock comfort zone.

> [@Ashterothi](#):
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> OK. Well where is your space? I am not one for killboard linking to prove a point or anything, but you are the one who made it about your own playstyle.

OPSEC.

Still claim that anyone crying about not finding fights is a moron, and anyone crying about how “3rd party software” can prevent pvp is a double moron.  
No amount of 3rd party software stopped Olmeca, and he’s as far from genius as one can be.

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**Author:** ![AkaiDruiD\_II](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/akaidruid_ii/32/185037_2.png) [@AkaiDruiD\_II](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/AkaiDruiD_II)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2020, 10:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/february-2020-release-general-feedback/218840/626 "2020-02-27T22:43:20Z")

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ccp should read FEEDBACK  
but if u hide the negative FEEDBACK that explains y ccp continues to release ‘Sabotages’

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**Author:** ![ISD\_Sakimura](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_sakimura/32/382213_2.png) [@ISD\_Sakimura](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Sakimura)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2020, 11:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/february-2020-release-general-feedback/218840/628 "2020-02-27T23:34:11Z")

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If everyone would just follow the forum rules there wouldn’t be any need for moderators; but since you and many others can’t seem to do so, then you give us little choice but to correct it or hide/remove it entirely.

Nothing wrong with voicing your negative feedback as long as it’s done in a constructive way, which as far as I’ve seen you have yet to do.

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**Author:** ![Xialis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xialis/32/317767_2.png) [@Xialis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xialis)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 12:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/february-2020-release-general-feedback/218840/629 "2020-02-28T00:26:02Z")

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> [@Orca\_Platypus](#):
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> > [@Ashterothi](#):
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> > OK. Well where is your space? I am not one for killboard linking to prove a point or anything, but you are the one who made it about your own playstyle.
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> OPSEC.

Haha, coward.  
Where is your oh so dangerous space?

Cheap filaments are a good thing, unless you don’t want to PvP ever, and believe that hitting F1 on a mining laser is more exciting than doing it in a fleet. (Not the most exciting PvP out there, better than mining though) Which appears to be your only experience with PvP.

Maybe you should try a small fleet, but that would mean doing something different and it’s scary out of your comfort zone.

Go back to high sec; mine veldspar, the price should be improving.

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**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 6:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/february-2020-release-general-feedback/218840/630 "2020-02-28T06:58:06Z")

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> [@Xialis](#):
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> Haha, coward.  
> Where is your oh so dangerous space?

Once again, OPSEC.

> [@Xialis](#):
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> Cheap filaments are a good thing

Explained already why they are bad. The problem is your inability to read.

> [@Xialis](#):
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> unless you don’t want to PvP ever

fukstupidaments have nothing, literally nothing to do with pvp.  
If you wanted to roam into me, that’s like less than two dozen jumps from jita.  
No gatecamps on the way, because we’re straight, and gatecamping isn’t.  
But trash that is averse to even such minimal effort still goes into filaments.  
Then they just go for the barges, and run away like non-pvping chickens they are from any sort of combat response. Literally no contribution to pvp, just ganktarding.

> [@Xialis](#):
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> and believe that hitting F1 on a mining laser is more exciting than doing it in a fleet.

I didn’t believe it, so like I said, I tried a full pvp alliance for 3 months. A few pages on killboard every week of it, and you won’t believe how incredibly boring it was. Nothing in eve bored me as much as that.

> [@Xialis](#):
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> Maybe you should try a small fleet, but that would mean doing something different and it’s scary out of your comfort zone.

Tried that a bazillion time, would not do it again unless absolutely have to, it’s mind-numbingly boring.

> [@Xialis](#):
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> Go back to high sec; mine veldspar, the price should be improving.

That, or super in a bloc. CCP doesn’t leave me much of a choice.

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**Author:** ![chez1962](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chez1962/32/480660_2.png) [@chez1962](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/chez1962)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 10:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/february-2020-release-general-feedback/218840/631 "2020-02-28T10:25:38Z")

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![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/f/d/fd6fe5f8a71b9d41b1c03b4f664e5c32b8a3d620.png)

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**Author:** ![Abe\_Rollin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abe_rollin/32/272864_2.png) [@Abe\_Rollin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abe_Rollin)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/february-2020-release-general-feedback/218840/632 "2020-02-28T15:34:17Z")

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ROFLMAO - ‘real PvPer’  
Using an expression like “Ganktard” is something only a powerless victim would do.

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**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 5:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/february-2020-release-general-feedback/218840/633 "2020-02-28T17:18:39Z")

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Not liking a very accurate description of a coward who would actively avoid any sort of pvp while pretending to be a pvper is a sure trait of a ganktard.

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**Author:** ![Jezs](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jezs/32/417515_2.png) [@Jezs](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jezs)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 8:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/february-2020-release-general-feedback/218840/634 "2020-02-28T20:22:37Z")

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Can’t we all just get along and celebrate the death of the red dot?

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**Author:** ![Brigitte\_Schmidt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brigitte_schmidt/32/183061_2.png) [@Brigitte\_Schmidt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brigitte_Schmidt)\
**Post date:** [February 29, 2020, 6:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/february-2020-release-general-feedback/218840/635 "2020-02-29T06:41:59Z")

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What do you mean? I still have the red dots. Actually it’s even worse now … The items are not being added on bottom nor to the top of the inventory. Now you have 🔴 shown, but you have to scroll down in order to find your item.

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**Author:** ![chez1962](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chez1962/32/480660_2.png) [@chez1962](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/chez1962)\
**Post date:** [February 29, 2020, 9:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/february-2020-release-general-feedback/218840/636 "2020-02-29T09:02:38Z")

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![eltXWzs](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/7/d/7d6c82c1ff13e0188ef38a404a9eb9dc33fe69c5.gif) The ar stil ingame, turn it Off !!

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**Author:** ![Cypr3ss\_Deteis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypr3ss_deteis/32/392947_2.png) [@Cypr3ss\_Deteis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypr3ss_Deteis)\
**Post date:** [February 29, 2020, 11:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/february-2020-release-general-feedback/218840/637 "2020-02-29T11:11:30Z")

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Yeah… my fav part is when you’re in a ship, docked up, and put something in your cargo hold, then you undock, and **hey!!** you’ve got new items in ya cargo hold!! 😑 It is certainly not ideal, CCP pls fix.

Regards,  
Cypr3ss.

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**Author:** ![Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhalyd_lyehin/32/358574_2.png) [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhalyd_Lyehin)\
**Post date:** [February 29, 2020, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/february-2020-release-general-feedback/218840/638 "2020-02-29T11:29:34Z")

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🔴 This god damn chime sound and the tooltip for every single item I put in my cargo are getting more and more on my nerves.

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**Author:** ![Jem\_Konsti](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jem_konsti/32/189753_2.png) [@Jem\_Konsti](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jem_Konsti)\
**Post date:** [February 29, 2020, 6:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/february-2020-release-general-feedback/218840/639 "2020-02-29T18:04:23Z")

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Returning player here and it’s just disappointing to see with the string of changes like these how the sandbox has been shrunk down to squeeze out everyone but the high skill PVP and PVE combat crowd. I know they yell the loudest, but the magic of Eve used to be the depth and complexity of all levels and types of players and the emergent society that developed. Now that is quickly disappearing in favor of just another space shooter. As a returning industrialist I now have to eithier leave Eve or go join a null sec corp to enjoy the game and new industrial players are only left with the first option.

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**Author:** ![Jezs](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jezs/32/417515_2.png) [@Jezs](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jezs)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2020, 4:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/february-2020-release-general-feedback/218840/640 "2020-03-01T04:12:51Z")

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You can remove the inventory shortcut from the neocom now, which will make the notifications go away. It seems I posted too soon though, because it comes back every time you log in ☹

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**Author:** ![Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhalyd_lyehin/32/358574_2.png) [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhalyd_Lyehin)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2020, 1:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/february-2020-release-general-feedback/218840/641 "2020-03-01T13:24:55Z")

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🔴 That red dot is now even more annoying than before. In addition to the inconsistent behavior when it shows up, it also does not disappear when I use “Stack All”. I now have to look through my cargo to get rid of that dot and badge in the sidebar. Glorious!

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**Author:** ![Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhalyd_lyehin/32/358574_2.png) [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhalyd_Lyehin)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2020, 5:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/february-2020-release-general-feedback/218840/642 "2020-03-01T17:17:28Z")

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🔴 When will CCP expand on the Mining Ledger to allow it to track more than just moon mining?

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**Author:** ![Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhalyd_lyehin/32/358574_2.png) [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhalyd_Lyehin)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2020, 6:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/february-2020-release-general-feedback/218840/643 "2020-03-02T18:40:39Z")

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🔴 I wish CCP would finally fix transparency so that it does not applies when it is turned off. This search bar is barely visible in the hangar and any other bright environment. The side bar is transparent but any other window is not. This has been the case for ages and it is very annoying.

![grafik](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/5/6/567e6d58e3e402e4dd73f7cdb9aecfd0332798a2.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2020, 7:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/february-2020-release-general-feedback/218840/644 "2020-03-02T19:51:01Z")

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> [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](#):
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> When will CCP expand on the Mining Ledger to allow it to track more than just moon mining?

It does. From the beginning.

> [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](#):
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> I wish CCP would finally fix transparency so that it does not applies when it is turned off. This search bar is barely visible in the hangar and any other bright environment. The side bar is transparent but any other window is not. This has been the case for ages and it is very annoying.

Have you tried pinning and unpinning the windows?

Do you even play the game?

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