# Federation Grand Prix Time Trials Contest YC123

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/federation-grand-prix-time-trials-contest-yc123/299667>\
**Category:** In Game Events\
**Tags:** contest, official\
**Created:** [March 10, 2021, 2:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/federation-grand-prix-time-trials-contest-yc123/299667 "2021-03-10T14:33:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 8:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/federation-grand-prix-time-trials-contest-yc123/299667/305 "2021-03-22T20:10:07Z")

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> [@Corvex](#):
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> Death cloning, jump cloning, cynoing is not really a race is it?

> **Rules:**
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> - Capsuleers are free to be as creative or as devious as they wish. If you come up with some sneaky way to shave off some precious seconds (or entire jumps) then go for it!

So yea, in this race, short cuts were allowed. It’s still totally a race, but it’s more like orienteering where where route planning is part of the competition, than running a track.

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**Author:** ![Corvex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/corvex/32/256947_2.png) [@Corvex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Corvex)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 8:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/federation-grand-prix-time-trials-contest-yc123/299667/306 "2021-03-22T20:10:13Z")

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> [@Drake\_Iddon](#):
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> > [@Corvex](#):
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> > Death cloning, jump cloning, cynoing is not really a race is it?
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> A race is a competition to cover a set course in the fastest time within a rule framework, the ruleset was “anything goes”

Still ■■■■ rules. Hope we get a real race next year.

I knew there would be at least one person who would spend billions on this event, which is why I didn’t tryhard and only did it once.

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**Author:** ![Drake\_Iddon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drake_iddon/32/412757_2.png) [@Drake\_Iddon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Drake_Iddon)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 8:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/federation-grand-prix-time-trials-contest-yc123/299667/307 "2021-03-22T20:12:38Z")

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the 1st place prize is worth roughly 15 billion isk and you thought only ONE person would invest into trying to get it? bruh

I’m all for removing skips that not all players can get though, so FNA skip, remote clone skip, infinite boosters and infinite deathclone skip need to be addressed

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**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 8:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/federation-grand-prix-time-trials-contest-yc123/299667/308 "2021-03-22T20:13:16Z")

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But maybe next year we can have another kind of event? Personally I think I’d like it if the rules changed a bit year-to-year so it would always have something new in it. I don’t particularly like solved-problem gameplay, and having to adapt and adjust your tactics to new situations is a true measure of skill.

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**Author:** ![Drake\_Iddon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drake_iddon/32/412757_2.png) [@Drake\_Iddon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Drake_Iddon)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 8:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/federation-grand-prix-time-trials-contest-yc123/299667/309 "2021-03-22T20:17:40Z")

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btw set up a channel ingame for people to chat and chill: “Grand Prix Post-Season”

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**Author:** ![Xyfu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xyfu/32/261913_2.png) [@Xyfu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xyfu)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 5:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/federation-grand-prix-time-trials-contest-yc123/299667/310 "2021-03-23T05:06:54Z")

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“If I don’t try, then people can’t laugh at my pitiful attempts and failures!”

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**Author:** ![Dread\_Pirate\_Rodgers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dread_pirate_rodgers/32/435227_2.png) [@Dread\_Pirate\_Rodgers](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dread_Pirate_Rodgers)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 5:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/federation-grand-prix-time-trials-contest-yc123/299667/311 "2021-03-23T05:08:02Z")

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Tomorrow’s final standings will certainly be interesting 🙂

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**Author:** ![FC\_Convict](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fc_convict/32/451520_2.png) [@FC\_Convict](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/FC_Convict)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 10:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/federation-grand-prix-time-trials-contest-yc123/299667/312 "2021-03-23T10:03:47Z")

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Leaderboards updated. Only 1 hour to go in the Federation Grand Prix event!

Just a reminder to the previous reminders - the final official leaderboards won’t be known until tomorrow.

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**Author:** ![Dread\_Pirate\_Rodgers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dread_pirate_rodgers/32/435227_2.png) [@Dread\_Pirate\_Rodgers](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dread_Pirate_Rodgers)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 2:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/federation-grand-prix-time-trials-contest-yc123/299667/313 "2021-03-23T14:58:20Z")

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Now that the 11:00 deadline has come and gone and no more runs can be submitted - I made a recorded run at the Eastern leaderboard last night USTZ after my calculations last weekend showed a sub 14 minute time was very achieveable and I wanted to prevent a clean sweep by @Drake_Iddon because this is Eve after all 😛 Congrats to @Larethyl_Seshin though who has edged me out and derailed my attempt to “steal” the top spot by ~25 seconds.

Yes, this means my run was ~13:20 +/- 5secs (depending on when the internal start/stop time goes versus the in game GUI displaying the start and stop graphics changing). I used a jc, dc, yearly remote dc, and 2 JF jumps to achieve my time. If I’d been paying a little more attention or Invested more isk into implants (I only used the event warp boosters, and 3 x 10% warp speed implants for ~75mill ISK total burned) maybe there was a chance at #1 - c’est la vie!

Current Overall standings as of @FC_Convict’s daily update are as follows:

![Current Standings](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/6/5/5/655c3f9bbe2bb65d09b5f2e43eda2a0f593160dc.png)

If nobody else came out of the woodwork after 0:00 today - I would project final event standings after the last update tomorrow to be:

![Estimated Standings](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/3/1/6/316da9fd5276556358905d6008959cfaeb74fa50.png)

Congrats to everyone who participated - my corpmate @Actanis (who was previously on the leaderboards before the real eve-optimizations occurred) got me interested in this event and speaking just for myself - my 13.5 minute run required ~8 hours of prep work for the Eastern route. The amount of time, effort and ISK invested for the Northern and Southern routes is likely quite staggering in comparison.

See you all next year (please CCP do this again) and hopefully with more time on my hands I’ll be able to be more competitive than just 1 lap.

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**Author:** ![Drake\_Iddon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drake_iddon/32/412757_2.png) [@Drake\_Iddon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Drake_Iddon)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 4:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/federation-grand-prix-time-trials-contest-yc123/299667/314 "2021-03-23T16:10:50Z")

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Jack Alle Also beat my east time just after midnight but i think was 10 seconds short of Larethyl, so that would put me in 4th

I didnt use the remote JC for the east route and my cyno skip was pretty poor because i missed a larger skip when calculating jump ranges

by my calcs the final board would look something like this:

| Rank | Name | Points |
| --- | --- | --- |
| 1 | Drake Iddon | 65 |
| 2 | Larethyl Seshin | 55 |
| 3 | Lsund Ame | 48 |
| 3 | Jack Alle | 48 |
| 5 | Alex z1 | 27 |
| 6 | Elsebeth Rhiannon | 24 |
| 7 | xa666 | 23 |
| 8 | Dread Pirate Rodgers | 18 |
| 9 | Romon Inaken | 16 |
| 10 | Stephane Turcotte | 12 |

Jack and Lsund both have a 4th, 3rd and 2nd place so they are actually fully tied, Stephane had a 5th place while Ashanti only did a 7th and 9th, so I’m assuming Steph wins on tie breaker for 10th place

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**Author:** ![Y\_Ashanti](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/y_ashanti/32/262629_2.png) [@Y\_Ashanti](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Y_Ashanti)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 5:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/federation-grand-prix-time-trials-contest-yc123/299667/315 "2021-03-23T17:23:06Z")

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I also did another run this morning that should make #9 or #10 on the southern route though, so I think we’ll see what other runs come in tomorrow. 😉

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**Author:** ![hiboman\_man](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hiboman_man/32/261796_2.png) [@hiboman\_man](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/hiboman_man)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 5:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/federation-grand-prix-time-trials-contest-yc123/299667/316 "2021-03-23T17:48:21Z")

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so mr drake iddon when are we going to see your racing video because the contest has now finished

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**Author:** ![Drake\_Iddon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drake_iddon/32/412757_2.png) [@Drake\_Iddon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Drake_Iddon)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 5:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/federation-grand-prix-time-trials-contest-yc123/299667/317 "2021-03-23T17:56:38Z")

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uploading them at the moment 🙂

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**Author:** ![Dread\_Pirate\_Rodgers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dread_pirate_rodgers/32/435227_2.png) [@Dread\_Pirate\_Rodgers](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dread_Pirate_Rodgers)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 6:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/federation-grand-prix-time-trials-contest-yc123/299667/318 "2021-03-23T18:12:20Z")

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Here’s my Eastern route run. Run starts around 3:05 - ends around 16:25. Appears to be a candidate for 3rd place behind Larethyl and Jack.

[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/6/2/862ecb4d21050fca6e52d88ebd8b742ed8bff478.jpeg "2021 EVE Online Grand Prix Competition - Eastern Lap - Leopards and JFs ... Oh My!") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3pI4z190gU)

Best,  
-DPR

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**Author:** ![Corvex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/corvex/32/256947_2.png) [@Corvex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Corvex)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 6:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/federation-grand-prix-time-trials-contest-yc123/299667/319 "2021-03-23T18:42:50Z")

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> [@Xyfu](#):
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> “If I don’t try, then people can’t laugh at my pitiful attempts and failures!”

Nah, my time is worth more in other areas where I am guaranteed to make ISK instead of wasting my time **trying** to make it.

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**Author:** ![Drake\_Iddon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drake_iddon/32/412757_2.png) [@Drake\_Iddon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Drake_Iddon)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 7:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/federation-grand-prix-time-trials-contest-yc123/299667/321 "2021-03-23T19:03:54Z")

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You do you mate, if you don’t enjoy it then thats fine but coming to complain about it after saying you didnt put any effort into it is just a little bit sad

u gotta skate

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**Author:** ![Dread\_Pirate\_Rodgers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dread_pirate_rodgers/32/435227_2.png) [@Dread\_Pirate\_Rodgers](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dread_Pirate_Rodgers)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 7:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/federation-grand-prix-time-trials-contest-yc123/299667/322 "2021-03-23T19:05:22Z")

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@Romon_Inaken did you get any last minute runs in which could cause a wrinkle in our understanding of the results coming tomorrow 🙂 ?

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**Author:** ![Drake\_Iddon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drake_iddon/32/412757_2.png) [@Drake\_Iddon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Drake_Iddon)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/federation-grand-prix-time-trials-contest-yc123/299667/323 "2021-03-23T19:17:16Z")

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[South Route - 31:05.4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHT2Tel-UDg)

[North Route - 18:33.5](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sS4Sv5bzLN8)

[East Route - 14:15.6](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mv7xRc2BC34)

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**Author:** ![Larethyl\_Seshin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/larethyl_seshin/32/261651_2.png) [@Larethyl\_Seshin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Larethyl_Seshin)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 7:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/federation-grand-prix-time-trials-contest-yc123/299667/324 "2021-03-23T19:40:34Z")

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Raw Footage of my runs:

> **East**
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> [Federation Grand Prix - Eastern Route - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CHbPbgLRf4)

> **South**
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> [Federation Grand Prix - Southern Route - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9iVk8a8Mqg)

> **North**
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> [Federation Grand Prix - Northern Route - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsdBJWAekt0)

Lost about a minute on my northern run because i warped to a bookmark and not a fleet member.  
That aside, was a fun event over all.

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**Author:** ![Drake\_Iddon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drake_iddon/32/412757_2.png) [@Drake\_Iddon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Drake_Iddon)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 7:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/federation-grand-prix-time-trials-contest-yc123/299667/325 "2021-03-23T19:47:48Z")

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huh you were able to jump directly onto the grids to get the next waypoint, when i did that it wouldnt do it until i warped off and back to it, that saves easily 20-40 seconds over what i was doing

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