# Federation Grand Prix Time Trials Contest YC123

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/federation-grand-prix-time-trials-contest-yc123/299667>\
**Category:** In Game Events\
**Tags:** contest, official\
**Created:** [March 10, 2021, 2:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/federation-grand-prix-time-trials-contest-yc123/299667 "2021-03-10T14:33:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 18

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**Author:** ![Xyfu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xyfu/32/261913_2.png) [@Xyfu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xyfu)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2021, 4:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/federation-grand-prix-time-trials-contest-yc123/299667/347 "2021-03-24T16:47:11Z")

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Not necessarily. Maybe the dumbest possible way to do it was in something that warps as slowly as possible.

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**Author:** ![Larethyl\_Seshin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/larethyl_seshin/32/261651_2.png) [@Larethyl\_Seshin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Larethyl_Seshin)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2021, 4:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/federation-grand-prix-time-trials-contest-yc123/299667/348 "2021-03-24T16:54:37Z")

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was thinking about doing the entire thing with this abomination for the lulz, but since there was that piece of 0.0 that would have been a very pointless throwaway of isk ^^

```
[Vargur, gp?]

Inertial Stabilizers II
Inertial Stabilizers II
Inertial Stabilizers II
Small Armor Repairer II
Ballistic Control System II

500MN Microwarpdrive II
Small Hull Repairer II
Large Micro Jump Drive
Cap Recharger II
Small Shield Booster II
100MN Afterburner II

Improved Cloaking Device II
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Hail L
Electron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
Festival Launcher, Forever 4-4 Firework
Miner II
Large EMP Smartbomb II
Large Remote Shield Booster II

Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
```

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**Author:** ![Drake\_Iddon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drake_iddon/32/412757_2.png) [@Drake\_Iddon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Drake_Iddon)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2021, 5:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/federation-grand-prix-time-trials-contest-yc123/299667/349 "2021-03-24T17:06:28Z")

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I was going to use a sin cus it can get sub 2s align time with the cloak trick, iirc MJDs work through bubbles so you just warp via an offset bookmark to 100 at the gate and mjd in

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**Author:** ![xa666](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xa666/32/261645_2.png) [@xa666](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/xa666)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2021, 5:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/federation-grand-prix-time-trials-contest-yc123/299667/350 "2021-03-24T17:11:23Z")

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Thanks everyone for participating. Congratulations to the winners!

It was hard to find all the tricks to beat the best times.  
Nice but stressful event. More please 😛

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**Author:** ![Sylvia\_Kildare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sylvia_kildare/32/416948_2.png) [@Sylvia\_Kildare](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sylvia_Kildare)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2021, 5:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/federation-grand-prix-time-trials-contest-yc123/299667/351 "2021-03-24T17:34:33Z")

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> [@CCP\_Fozzie](#):
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> we do hope to bring the Grand Prix back next year in its more traditional time slot in June. The events team is working to build a set of events all across the calendar that we can iterate on each year to improve things and keep them fresh, so we’ll be taking the feedback from this thread into account for changes to next year’s version of the event.

Ah, good stuff. Thanks for confirming my June = Fed Day memories aren’t fabricated. ;D

The Blood Raiders Halloween, Angel Valentine’s Day, and Guristas Easter (Gureaster!) events are to me the bedrock of EVE’s holiday-related events (I’d mention the winter events as well but they’ve varied from Mordu to Serp to whatever else over the years, not as consistent).

Beyond those, the other 9 months of the year are wide open for experimentation and/or new stuff out of the blue and/or iteration on similar themes from previous years. There’s been a few “off” events in the past couple years but also some really fun ones, so looking forward to what your event team comes up with next. o7

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**Author:** ![FC\_Convict](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fc_convict/32/451520_2.png) [@FC\_Convict](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/FC_Convict)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2021, 7:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/federation-grand-prix-time-trials-contest-yc123/299667/352 "2021-03-24T19:12:27Z")

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I’m sorry sir but Quafe are not currently hiring. I’ll be in contact to find out which account you would like the Omega added to. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Drake\_Iddon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drake_iddon/32/412757_2.png) [@Drake\_Iddon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Drake_Iddon)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2021, 7:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/federation-grand-prix-time-trials-contest-yc123/299667/353 "2021-03-24T19:15:09Z")

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rip, worth a shot lmao 😛

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**Author:** ![Kalanie\_Makamae](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kalanie_makamae/32/262502_2.png) [@Kalanie\_Makamae](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kalanie_Makamae)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2021, 8:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/federation-grand-prix-time-trials-contest-yc123/299667/354 "2021-03-24T20:23:17Z")

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Hey Everyone!

Now that the event is over, I just wanted to thank the devs and @FC_Convict for all the work they put in to create it, and for updating scores and gathering our feedback etc.

This whole event has been a gloriously satisfying waste of both ISK and ships: I had an absolute blast!

As a somewhat-recently returning player, this event forced me out of my comfort zone in a lot of positive ways. I got to experience Eve content I hadn’t seen in a long time as well as a lot of new and different things I had never tried out before. I’m pretty sure lots of players who enjoy Low Sec content have been just thrilled at the chance to chase us all around and blow us up! 😛 (Or at least for the first week or so).

Most of the landmarks on the list I had never seen, or even knew about, and visiting some ended up being a very emotional experience for me. I paused at the Fallen Capsuleer Monument, spending several minutes just reading through tears, not only about how this game affects each of us even in our real lives, but also at the friendship and comradery we inevitably experience with each other because of it.

In terms of the Leaderboards and Scoring, as others have said, it would be nice in the future to see more ship- or racing-type restrictions within multiple categories (but obviously keeping the unrestricted/anything-goes category overall to reward creativity).

As for me personally, I don’t have access to any alts or jump-capable ships, and so all of my runs just took advantage of clone manipulation, moderately pricey (at least for me!) implants, and good old-fashioned terrifying gate-to-gate warps! 😛

I really hope that didn’t come across as braggy or something! It’s just to illustrate that while it IS possible to come close, it’s obviously difficult-to-impossible to compete at the same level without access to those extra things. And it would be nice in the future if some of those could be separated into different divisions or something for players at various skill levels to compete in.

On the other hand, because this is Eve, it’s also incredibly hard to isolate things like Wealth, Player Skill, Character Skill Level, Geography, and other aspects just on their own, since everything is so deeply tied together in this game!

Anyway, I just wanted to share my thoughts and say thanks, as well as CONGRATULATIONS to all the winners!! You all made this really fun for me as well, just watching you vie for positions and sneak times in overnight and such. 😛

Happy Friendship Week,  
Kalanie

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**Author:** ![Xyfu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xyfu/32/261913_2.png) [@Xyfu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xyfu)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2021, 8:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/federation-grand-prix-time-trials-contest-yc123/299667/355 "2021-03-24T20:36:07Z")

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This one. :^)

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**Author:** ![FC\_Convict](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fc_convict/32/451520_2.png) [@FC\_Convict](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/FC_Convict)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2021, 9:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/federation-grand-prix-time-trials-contest-yc123/299667/357 "2021-03-24T21:08:22Z")

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NICE TRY.

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**Author:** ![CCP\_Fozzie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_fozzie/32/476703_2.png) [@CCP\_Fozzie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Fozzie)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2021, 9:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/federation-grand-prix-time-trials-contest-yc123/299667/358 "2021-03-24T21:20:42Z")

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> [@Drake\_Iddon](#):
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> I’d also want to design an absolutely brutal run which goes into both Pochven, J space and back for those who truly want to feel pain

Ooh that would be really cool.

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**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2021, 9:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/federation-grand-prix-time-trials-contest-yc123/299667/359 "2021-03-24T21:23:50Z")

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Yes, please make Niarja a waypoint next time 😛

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**Author:** ![Larethyl\_Seshin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/larethyl_seshin/32/261651_2.png) [@Larethyl\_Seshin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Larethyl_Seshin)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2021, 9:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/federation-grand-prix-time-trials-contest-yc123/299667/360 "2021-03-24T21:41:50Z")

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I feel like J Space might be a bit too much. Unless you have a dedicated alliance or access to a big WH Mapper i think it will be next to impossible for a single pilot to find a certain J System. Not to mention in like ~1 week. Pochven does seem more reasonable in that case.

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**Author:** ![Stephane\_Turcotte](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stephane_turcotte/32/261259_2.png) [@Stephane\_Turcotte](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Stephane_Turcotte)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2021, 10:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/federation-grand-prix-time-trials-contest-yc123/299667/361 "2021-03-24T22:03:41Z")

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My not enough run on North used a connection direct HS to postouvin tho 🙂 so with wh,s it’s a matter of luck of course.

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**Author:** ![Drake\_Iddon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drake_iddon/32/412757_2.png) [@Drake\_Iddon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Drake_Iddon)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2021, 10:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/federation-grand-prix-time-trials-contest-yc123/299667/362 "2021-03-24T22:25:55Z")

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there are certain ways to get into whs without needing to scan them down 😛

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**Author:** ![Larethyl\_Seshin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/larethyl_seshin/32/261651_2.png) [@Larethyl\_Seshin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Larethyl_Seshin)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2021, 10:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/federation-grand-prix-time-trials-contest-yc123/299667/363 "2021-03-24T22:31:23Z")

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I am aware, but it would disqualify most of the casual participants.

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**Author:** ![Drake\_Iddon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drake_iddon/32/412757_2.png) [@Drake\_Iddon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Drake_Iddon)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2021, 10:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/federation-grand-prix-time-trials-contest-yc123/299667/364 "2021-03-24T22:32:06Z")

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not if you put a waypoint in the systems where they appear

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**Author:** ![CCP\_Fozzie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_fozzie/32/476703_2.png) [@CCP\_Fozzie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Fozzie)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2021, 11:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/federation-grand-prix-time-trials-contest-yc123/299667/365 "2021-03-24T23:54:26Z")

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> [@Larethyl\_Seshin](#):
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> I feel like J Space might be a bit too much. Unless you have a dedicated alliance or access to a big WH Mapper i think it will be next to impossible for a single pilot to find a certain J System. Not to mention in like ~1 week. Pochven does seem more reasonable in that case.

Yeah something like that would only be for a special and optional “advanced” course. There’s also a lot of variety in the difficulty you can get out of a J-space waypoint for a course like that. The “easier” option would be Thera. The “OH GOD WHY” option would be to pick a random uninhabited C2 (I wouldn’t actually do that, but it would be funny).

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**Author:** ![Ratwerke\_Actual](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ratwerke_actual/32/384764_2.png) [@Ratwerke\_Actual](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ratwerke_Actual)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2021, 3:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/federation-grand-prix-time-trials-contest-yc123/299667/366 "2021-03-25T03:14:00Z")

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I did try the “doing it wrong” challenge.

It did not end well.

> **[Zephyr | Ratwerke Actual | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/91390024/)**
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> Ratwerke Actual (ZDEEP) lost their Zephyr in M2-CF1 (Syndicate). Final Blow by Seterinthia (Tactical Tea Baggers) flying in a Svipul. Total Value: 80,668,916.19 ISK

Edit : spelling

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**Author:** ![Xyfu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xyfu/32/261913_2.png) [@Xyfu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xyfu)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2021, 8:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/federation-grand-prix-time-trials-contest-yc123/299667/367 "2021-03-25T08:51:46Z")

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I was discussing this with Drake a while after his final run and it seemed interesting. Having waypoints you visit like this lends itself very quickly to optimising the best strategy - placing death clones and titans/blops in the right places, and having people to pod you. If there were to be more inspiration taken from real life races, it could be harder to see what the dominant strategy should be.

One example I thought up was one of the waypoints could have some beacons and targets like that shooty bit in the skiing race in the olympics. You land in deadspace and have to sub-warp get in range of one of the beacons, then once you’ve done that you have to deal a certain amount of damage to a target 120k away, then another beacon, then another target. Do you do that in a rail hyperion for the ability to womp it from the beacons? Heavy missile Tengu so it can be burning to the next beacon while the missiles are in flight, but at the cost of having to burn towards the target a bit? And so forth.

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