# FIGHT THE INVADERS - OR BETRAY EMPIRES

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fight-the-invaders-or-betray-empires/209184>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [December 31, 2019, 12:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fight-the-invaders-or-betray-empires/209184 "2019-12-31T00:05:22Z")\
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**Author:** ![Alexander\_Minto\_Hughes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alexander_minto_hughes/32/511046_2.png) [@Alexander\_Minto\_Hughes](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alexander_Minto_Hughes)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2019, 12:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fight-the-invaders-or-betray-empires/209184/1 "2019-12-31T00:05:22Z")

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Sooo how does one “betray” the empires and fight for the triglavians??

or this not implemented yet?

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**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2019, 12:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fight-the-invaders-or-betray-empires/209184/2 "2019-12-31T00:12:01Z")

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Just side with the Triglavians and shoot the Empire rats in the site. That’s really all.

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**Author:** ![Alexander\_Minto\_Hughes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alexander_minto_hughes/32/511046_2.png) [@Alexander\_Minto\_Hughes](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alexander_Minto_Hughes)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2019, 12:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fight-the-invaders-or-betray-empires/209184/3 "2019-12-31T00:12:26Z")

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what empire rats?

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**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2019, 12:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fight-the-invaders-or-betray-empires/209184/4 "2019-12-31T00:13:35Z")

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If you warp to the Observatory Flashpoint beacons, you’ll be presented with two fairly large npc fleets. One trig, the other Empire navy fleet.

You “side” with one of them by shooting the other.

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**Author:** ![Alexander\_Minto\_Hughes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alexander_minto_hughes/32/511046_2.png) [@Alexander\_Minto\_Hughes](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alexander_Minto_Hughes)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2019, 12:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fight-the-invaders-or-betray-empires/209184/5 "2019-12-31T00:18:24Z")

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riiight…

talk about done it wrong

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**Author:** ![Chan\_aar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chan_aar/32/377560_2.png) [@Chan\_aar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chan_aar)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2019, 8:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fight-the-invaders-or-betray-empires/209184/6 "2019-12-31T08:35:35Z")

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Yup

# [FIGHT THE INVADERS - OR BETRAY EMPIRES](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fight-the-invaders-or-betray-empires/209184)

Is nothing but **marketing bullshine**. :psyccp:

All that picking a side does is decide which loot table your drop comes from.

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**Author:** ![Theron\_Larkis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/theron_larkis/32/170573_2.png) [@Theron\_Larkis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Theron_Larkis)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2019, 9:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fight-the-invaders-or-betray-empires/209184/7 "2019-12-31T09:36:48Z")

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Managing expectations, this _is_ CCP we’re talking about.

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**Author:** ![Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/herzog_wolfhammer/32/452132_2.png) [@Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Herzog_Wolfhammer)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2019, 8:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fight-the-invaders-or-betray-empires/209184/8 "2019-12-31T20:06:27Z")

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You know what would really work?  
If, on having more faction with non-empire entities, you get to use their secret gate networks.  
In Templar One, for example, the Morse, a Drake captained by one of the protagonists, would freely get around space, usually lowsec and Mordus null.

Now, we all know how it would really play out if the novel was more like the game: the Morse would have been ganked in a kill-everything-that-moves gate camp. No Morse, no story, nothing really.

This implies that Mordus has a gate network. Mission and exploration sites have gates. There are even defunct jump gates in mission sites even implying that pirate factions use their own gates.

So, if CCP really wants players to be the baddy, toss them a bone and at least let it be "more than getting bling and ISK ", or to be precise, “a reason other than krabbing”. Like the ability to get around null and low using the secret pirate gate networks that only let those with faction through. Would that not be cool?

Probably not. Hurf blurf “CCPlease funnel more people to my gate camp” and hurr durr and all that usual crap. New content for krabbing, nothing else.

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**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2020, 12:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fight-the-invaders-or-betray-empires/209184/9 "2020-01-01T00:05:03Z")

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What the hell were you all expecting?

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**Author:** ![Mayhaw\_Morgan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mayhaw_morgan/32/412682_2.png) [@Mayhaw\_Morgan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mayhaw_Morgan)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2020, 1:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fight-the-invaders-or-betray-empires/209184/10 "2020-01-01T01:00:32Z")

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Access to a Triglavian LP store? 🙂

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**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2020, 1:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fight-the-invaders-or-betray-empires/209184/11 "2020-01-01T01:29:46Z")

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> [@Daichi\_Yamato](#):
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> What the hell were you all expecting?

Too gank freely those who choose Trig? 🙂

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**Author:** ![Quor\_Dresden](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quor_dresden/32/277545_2.png) [@Quor\_Dresden](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Quor_Dresden)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2020, 3:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fight-the-invaders-or-betray-empires/209184/12 "2020-01-01T03:40:18Z")

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I was hoping this was going to turn into a new major faction. Final battle then trigs are given there own area of new eden in a cease fire agreement. New trade hub eventually, new stations, and some sort of new travel system using trig space.

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**Author:** ![Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/herzog_wolfhammer/32/452132_2.png) [@Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Herzog_Wolfhammer)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2020, 7:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fight-the-invaders-or-betray-empires/209184/13 "2020-01-01T07:20:30Z")

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No. It’s going to be more farming content. Like everything else.  
The future is Browser Game.

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**Author:** ![Alexander\_Minto\_Hughes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alexander_minto_hughes/32/511046_2.png) [@Alexander\_Minto\_Hughes](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alexander_Minto_Hughes)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2020, 9:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fight-the-invaders-or-betray-empires/209184/14 "2020-01-02T21:16:47Z")

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LIES! its phone gaming.

can you hear me? hear me? hear me?

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2020, 9:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fight-the-invaders-or-betray-empires/209184/15 "2020-04-01T21:16:55Z")

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