# Fighters and drones do not appear to be sensibly balanced **URL:** \ **Category:** Assembly Hall\ **Created:** [February 26, 2021, 11:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fighters-and-drones-do-not-appear-to-be-sensibly-balanced/297633 "2021-02-26T11:30:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Clary\_Daemon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/clary_daemon/32/253040_2.png) [@Clary\_Daemon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Clary_Daemon)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2021, 1:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fighters-and-drones-do-not-appear-to-be-sensibly-balanced/297633/41 "2021-03-09T01:32:54Z")
Yes, those nerfs already happened. They’ve mentioned more “rebalancing” in the _near_ future. Those changes are unclear for now. Because I know they’re going to keep stripping caps of all their strength, I’ve decided to extract all my cap skills. I think it’s unfortunate that they want to strip the achievement and associated power from years worth of training and saving isk. Perhaps I came to eve too late to have such lofty goals as I’ve had, and mostly achieved. ---
**Author:** ![Spitfire1938](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/spitfire1938/32/474648_2.png) [@Spitfire1938](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Spitfire1938)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2021, 4:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fighters-and-drones-do-not-appear-to-be-sensibly-balanced/297633/42 "2021-03-09T04:12:36Z")
Well they did that when they added injectors. If I wanted to, I could have the skills to fly a Super on this char right now, it would just cost a pretty penny. You seem to be frustrated that your Carrier isn’t as effective without proper support as you’ve complained about groups of Kikis/Stealth Bombers being able to kill a Carrier. I’ve always subscribed to the idea that a well fit group of Frigates (or other small ships for that matter) should be able to take down much larger ships that aren’t flown/fit properly. ---
**Author:** ![Clary\_Daemon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/clary_daemon/32/253040_2.png) [@Clary\_Daemon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Clary_Daemon)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2021, 2:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fighters-and-drones-do-not-appear-to-be-sensibly-balanced/297633/43 "2021-03-09T14:30:38Z")
My frustration comes from so few kiki’s and bombers being able to kill a ship much bigger, with much more defense. It doesn’t make sense to me. The size of the ship should afford it a lot more defensive systems. For example, you’d think the warp core would be properly shielded so it can establish warp, or jump, even if a frigate is trying to tackle it. A bubble should be ineffective against carriers and above. Titans have a core strength of 100 but a single bubble can stop them. I guess my point is, the smallest ships in the game should not so easily threaten the largest ships in the game. I wouldn’t expect a hoverboard or moped to be able to disable or destroy a tank irl. I wouldn’t expect a speed boat to disable or destroy a carrier irl. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2021, 3:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fighters-and-drones-do-not-appear-to-be-sensibly-balanced/297633/44 "2021-03-09T15:19:56Z")
> [@Clary\_Daemon](#): > > For example, you’d think the warp core would be properly shielded so it can establish warp, or jump, even if a frigate is trying to tackle it. For supercarriers and titans you need a bubble or heavy interdictor to stop them. Maybe you’re expecting too much from a normal carrier? ---
**Author:** ![Spitfire1938](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/spitfire1938/32/474648_2.png) [@Spitfire1938](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Spitfire1938)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2021, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fighters-and-drones-do-not-appear-to-be-sensibly-balanced/297633/45 "2021-03-09T18:53:16Z")
You do realize one of the main uses of a bubble is to keep Supers tackled. It has an infinite amount of points. ---
**Author:** ![Clary\_Daemon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/clary_daemon/32/253040_2.png) [@Clary\_Daemon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Clary_Daemon)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2021, 6:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fighters-and-drones-do-not-appear-to-be-sensibly-balanced/297633/46 "2021-03-09T18:58:59Z")
Probably. To me, it makes sense that they would build the carriers and above to have shielding for those situations. A bubble I can understand, but ships have limited tackle ability, an that should have been considered when the carriers were designed. After all, they were designed for war. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2021, 6:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fighters-and-drones-do-not-appear-to-be-sensibly-balanced/297633/47 "2021-06-07T18:59:26Z")
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