# First look at new abyssal PVP arena!

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/first-look-at-new-abyssal-pvp-arena/252320>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [June 30, 2020, 9:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/first-look-at-new-abyssal-pvp-arena/252320 "2020-06-30T21:04:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2020, 4:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/first-look-at-new-abyssal-pvp-arena/252320/21 "2020-07-01T16:57:43Z")

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> [@Brun\_Warbear](#):
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> > [@Magnus\_Carta](#):
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> > So let me rephrase the question: which of you fake EVE clowns is OK with instanced ■■■■■■■■ like this?
> 
> So long as someone’s getting blown up I don’t care. I have ore and manufactured ships to sell.
> 
> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

It’s not just whether or not something’s getting blown up, but also _what’s_ getting blown up, and _how much of it_ is getting blown up. If a chunk of “normal” PvP gets replaced with Tech I frigates and cruisers, industry will see a hit, too.

Also, it’s not inconceivable that if CCP’s “e-sport” goes “mainstream” that the arena will become somehow “detached” from the rest of the economy. Can you imagine this being streamed on Twitch big-time, and then participants need to take time-outs to grind out their replacement ships?

> “Well Bob, Destiny Corrupted has been doing really well in this bracket, but the unexpected loss in the quarter finals is forcing this crowd-favorite to hit the belts!”
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> “You know how it is, John, even the best of the best have to sometimes get their hands dirty and go for a roll in the mud…and…am I seeing this correctly? Destiny appears to be going for the Plagioclase! Another unexpected move from the three-time champ!”
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> “Indeed it is, Bob, but the logic behind it is quite sound. While going for the Veldspar is the expected strategy, those rocks are small and depleted. Going for the Plagioclase allows this contestant to keep beams on a single, big target for an extended period of time, providing a prime opportunity to multitask with PI production chains.”
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> “A power move by Destiny, who is now **splitting** targets on two different rocks, and sending mining drones to a third! The crowd is going absolutely **wild** with excitement, as you can see from our **live** meme counter!”
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> “Well not me, Bob. I’m more of a level 3 mission person myself, Kappa.”
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> “John, you clever rogue, you!”
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> _both turn to face the camera and laugh together_

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**Author:** ![Drx\_Drx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drx_drx/32/383107_2.png) [@Drx\_Drx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Drx_Drx)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2020, 5:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/first-look-at-new-abyssal-pvp-arena/252320/22 "2020-07-01T17:45:07Z")

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> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#):
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> Also, it’s not inconceivable that if CCP’s “e-sport” goes “mainstream”

 ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/4/44da66c040f691222813333650c6d05e3515a6a4.jpeg)

Not gonna happen

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**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2020, 5:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/first-look-at-new-abyssal-pvp-arena/252320/23 "2020-07-01T17:46:41Z")

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member alliance tournament with ccp guard ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤  
omg , i fell nostalgic about it

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**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2020, 5:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/first-look-at-new-abyssal-pvp-arena/252320/24 "2020-07-01T17:59:10Z")

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> [@Magnus\_Carta](#):
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> WTF is CCP doing.

■■■■■■■ up the sandbox even more by adding battle arenas.

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**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2020, 6:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/first-look-at-new-abyssal-pvp-arena/252320/25 "2020-07-01T18:00:23Z")

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> [@tutucox\_Khamsi](#):
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> hey I’m a real EVE clown

Confirmed.

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**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2020, 6:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/first-look-at-new-abyssal-pvp-arena/252320/26 "2020-07-01T18:00:58Z")

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> [@Scoots\_Choco](#):
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> The overwhelming majority of the game.

Have you asked all the players?

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**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2020, 6:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/first-look-at-new-abyssal-pvp-arena/252320/27 "2020-07-01T18:01:25Z")

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> [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](#):
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> Have you asked all the players?

i dont remember being asked

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**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2020, 6:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/first-look-at-new-abyssal-pvp-arena/252320/28 "2020-07-01T18:01:46Z")

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> [@tutucox\_Khamsi](#):
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> i dont remember being asked

Neither was I.

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**Author:** ![Tater-nuts](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tater-nuts/32/189043_2.png) [@Tater-nuts](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tater-nuts)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2020, 6:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/first-look-at-new-abyssal-pvp-arena/252320/29 "2020-07-01T18:06:40Z")

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Nor I

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**Author:** ![Brun\_Warbear](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brun_warbear/32/380353_2.png) [@Brun\_Warbear](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brun_Warbear)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2020, 6:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/first-look-at-new-abyssal-pvp-arena/252320/30 "2020-07-01T18:52:36Z")

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> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#):
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> Also, it’s not inconceivable that if CCP’s “e-sport” goes “mainstream” that the arena will become somehow “detached” from the rest of the economy. Can you imagine this being streamed on Twitch big-time, and then participants need to take time-outs to grind out their replacement ships?

It conceivable that monkey turnip banana tutu wriggle muffin fart poop.

I can just make stuff up, too!

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**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2020, 6:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/first-look-at-new-abyssal-pvp-arena/252320/31 "2020-07-01T18:54:21Z")

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> [@Brun\_Warbear](#):
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> banana tutu

cool :parrot: :parrot:

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2020, 6:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/first-look-at-new-abyssal-pvp-arena/252320/32 "2020-07-01T18:55:28Z")

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Dude, are you having a stroke?

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**Author:** ![Brun\_Warbear](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brun_warbear/32/380353_2.png) [@Brun\_Warbear](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brun_Warbear)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2020, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/first-look-at-new-abyssal-pvp-arena/252320/33 "2020-07-01T18:56:14Z")

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No, your slippery slope fallacy is nonsense. I came up with an equally valid suggestion.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2020, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/first-look-at-new-abyssal-pvp-arena/252320/34 "2020-07-01T18:56:31Z")

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lol…

■■■■ me, I keep forgetting how joyless most people are, even though I’ve gotten to observe it first-hand after getting my first real office job.

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**Author:** ![Brun\_Warbear](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brun_warbear/32/380353_2.png) [@Brun\_Warbear](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brun_Warbear)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2020, 7:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/first-look-at-new-abyssal-pvp-arena/252320/35 "2020-07-01T19:03:39Z")

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Joyless is applying basically a moral panic defence in suggestion that somehow other people’s fun is ruining your game.

You could have just posted about how the kids should get off your lawn. It would have been less hyperbolic and reflected reality a lot better.

Also I defy you that “wriggle fart poop” is joyless.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2020, 7:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/first-look-at-new-abyssal-pvp-arena/252320/36 "2020-07-01T19:07:16Z")

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> [@Brun\_Warbear](#):
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> moral panic defence

/me drops the hot dog

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**Author:** ![Sugar\_Smacks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sugar_smacks/32/430124_2.png) [@Sugar\_Smacks](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sugar_Smacks)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2020, 8:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/first-look-at-new-abyssal-pvp-arena/252320/37 "2020-07-01T20:41:27Z")

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I am looking forward to watching these streams.

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**Author:** ![Lhord\_GankBang](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lhord_gankbang/32/171168_2.png) [@Lhord\_GankBang](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lhord_GankBang)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2020, 9:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/first-look-at-new-abyssal-pvp-arena/252320/38 "2020-07-01T21:39:21Z")

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The hell did I sub for? Matched PvP, taken away from the sandbox like any other game. Well, there are far cheaper games that provide that experience you lazily hit the ‘match’ button and get insta spoonfed.

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**Author:** ![Lhord\_GankBang](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lhord_gankbang/32/171168_2.png) [@Lhord\_GankBang](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lhord_GankBang)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2020, 9:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/first-look-at-new-abyssal-pvp-arena/252320/39 "2020-07-01T21:43:23Z")

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Killing the game, right when there was a hope to revive it with the upcoming war. This is literally the best way to remove even more players form normal space and put all the possible targets into these dumb matchmaking sh\*tshows.

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**Author:** ![Alterus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alterus/32/213825_2.png) [@Alterus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alterus)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2020, 10:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/first-look-at-new-abyssal-pvp-arena/252320/40 "2020-07-01T22:24:50Z")

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> [@Aceyfacey](#):
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> o7
> 
> If you are wondering how the new abyssal PVP arenas are, you can see my first impressions here: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDxyY5aKDXo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDxyY5aKDXo)
> 
> Loot is also pretty decent for stuff run in t1 cruisers, would give good incentives to run these apart from the pure fun of pvp 🙂

Me personally, I love this content. It really shows all the amazing immersion, cinematic experiences, gorgeous vistas, and incredible action that EVE Online© is known for. With this new content, EVE Online© is on track to being one of the most popular and successful games ever. Thanks, CCP Games™!

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