First look at new abyssal PVP arena!

The overwhelming majority of the game. Welcome back.



The majority of incompetent players like those CCP devs and people like Scoots.


Well then,

While I don’t agree with this why not just take your leet skills and own every carebear that does this? Kill them, show them no matter how much they cry for fair fights they will always suck at pvp.

You need to view this as free killmarks.


Carebears won’t use this feature. The only reason they beg for it is as a red herring by pretending that they’re willing, when in reality all they hope for is for something to come along that will distract everyone else so that they can continue to farm in peace.

Carebears don’t PvP. They only pretend that they would, if the circumstances are palatable for them (the circumstances, usually, require the absence of said PvP). I’ve played EVE long enough (and sat in many carebear corporations), and played dozens of other survival-type games, that this isn’t just a theory anymore.

Carebears are drawn to games with loot, and account persistence/progression. So I’ll make two example from other PvP games that I’ve played.

  • H1Z1 was one of the first major survival games on the market. SOE’s president at the time, John Smedley, was notoriously dissatisfied that the board essentially forced him to add PvE servers to the game. There were a lot of debates on forums at the time, with similar arguments that are being made with regard to CCP’s latest arena plans. So, what happened when the game went live? All of those PvE servers became loot vault fortresses, with player structures covering vast majorities of the available land, and players ran around with essentially infinite ammo. Well guess what? They got bored. So what they started begging for on the forums was the implementation of a consensual PvP toggle on the PvP servers, where it was actually fun to play because resources were scarce. I swear I’m not making this up.

  • Planetside 2, another SOE game, was about a three-way non-stop war between technologically-unique factions. Guess what happened just weeks after it came out? Carebears started coming in, and complaining that they couldn’t farm character progress. They started asking for bots, and safe areas to kill them in, so that they could level up without being interrupted by other players. Once again, not making this up.


As long as we’re not forced to do it, and we can still do all the other things we’ve always done, I don’t give a s**t…


Eve Arena?

When Catch the Flag?

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So long as someone’s getting blown up I don’t care. I have ore and manufactured ships to sell.


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looks cool
some will like it … some not … as always …



It’s not just whether or not something’s getting blown up, but also what’s getting blown up, and how much of it is getting blown up. If a chunk of “normal” PvP gets replaced with Tech I frigates and cruisers, industry will see a hit, too.

Also, it’s not inconceivable that if CCP’s “e-sport” goes “mainstream” that the arena will become somehow “detached” from the rest of the economy. Can you imagine this being streamed on Twitch big-time, and then participants need to take time-outs to grind out their replacement ships?

“Well Bob, Destiny Corrupted has been doing really well in this bracket, but the unexpected loss in the quarter finals is forcing this crowd-favorite to hit the belts!”

“You know how it is, John, even the best of the best have to sometimes get their hands dirty and go for a roll in the mud…and…am I seeing this correctly? Destiny appears to be going for the Plagioclase! Another unexpected move from the three-time champ!”

“Indeed it is, Bob, but the logic behind it is quite sound. While going for the Veldspar is the expected strategy, those rocks are small and depleted. Going for the Plagioclase allows this contestant to keep beams on a single, big target for an extended period of time, providing a prime opportunity to multitask with PI production chains.”

“A power move by Destiny, who is now splitting targets on two different rocks, and sending mining drones to a third! The crowd is going absolutely wild with excitement, as you can see from our live meme counter!”

“Well not me, Bob. I’m more of a level 3 mission person myself, Kappa.”

“John, you clever rogue, you!”

both turn to face the camera and laugh together

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Not gonna happen


member alliance tournament with ccp guard :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart:
omg , i fell nostalgic about it

■■■■■■■ up the sandbox even more by adding battle arenas.



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Have you asked all the players?

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i dont remember being asked

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Neither was I.

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Nor I

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It conceivable that monkey turnip banana tutu wriggle muffin fart poop.

I can just make stuff up, too!

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cool :parrot: :parrot:

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Dude, are you having a stroke?