# First undock after signing in sucks **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [May 5, 2018, 2:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/first-undock-after-signing-in-sucks/74371 "2018-05-05T14:34:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Nutchaya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nutchaya/32/153210_2.png) [@Nutchaya](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nutchaya)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2018, 2:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/first-undock-after-signing-in-sucks/74371/1 "2018-05-05T14:34:42Z")
Why is the first undock so slow and you have to wait like twice as long as usual to appear? Somewhat dangerous and concerning if in a hub that has much scumbaggery surrounding it. I’ve got to the point where I won’t leave any chars in hubs due to the pedestrian undocking process for the first time…after the first one it’s fine. What the deal with this? ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2018, 5:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/first-undock-after-signing-in-sucks/74371/2 "2018-05-05T17:05:43Z")
Everything has been slower since Hamster in a Box. ---
**Author:** ![Netan\_MalDoran](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/netan_maldoran/32/426257_2.png) [@Netan\_MalDoran](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Netan_MalDoran)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2018, 5:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/first-undock-after-signing-in-sucks/74371/3 "2018-05-05T17:38:23Z")
Because your GPU is loading large amounts of resources for the first time, after that most of them are cached and the undocks are faster. ---
**Author:** ![Kynami\_Vaille](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kynami_vaille/32/229160_2.png) [@Kynami\_Vaille](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kynami_Vaille)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2018, 6:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/first-undock-after-signing-in-sucks/74371/4 "2018-05-05T18:00:11Z")
Because unlike Citadels stations don’t have a peek outside function which would let you forcibly load the resources before attempting to undock. Which means they could easily have a “fix.” They just can’t be bothered to do so. ---
**Author:** ![Fluffy\_Moe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fluffy_moe/32/11132_2.png) [@Fluffy\_Moe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fluffy_Moe)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2018, 7:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/first-undock-after-signing-in-sucks/74371/5 "2018-05-05T19:15:55Z")
On the flip side, park at Jita and undock then rest of your whole gaiming session runs smoother. ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2018, 7:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/first-undock-after-signing-in-sucks/74371/6 "2018-05-05T19:41:45Z")
> [@Kynami\_Vaille](#): > > Because unlike Citadels stations don’t have a peek outside function which would let you forcibly load the resources before attempting to undock. Which means they could easily have a “fix.” They just can’t be bothered to do so. “easily” is a relative term, citadels are more akin to ships than they are to stations, as you’re still effectively “in space” in a citadel its easy to add a feature like this, they would basically have to upwell all of the known stations in order to get that feature to work and thats just not worth the effort because i can guarantee something will break and somehow the jita 4-4 station will become vulnerable and be popped causing massive headaches and issues 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2018, 6:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/first-undock-after-signing-in-sucks/74371/7 "2018-05-06T06:25:27Z")
> [@Cypherous](#): > > jita 4-4 station will become vulnerable and be popped If once popped it drops all the sell order items as loot I am all for this. Though first I should make a few hundred omega accounts multibox fleet just to can scoop like even 0.00001% of the loot drop and make sure they all only take the highest price bling stuff. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2018, 10:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/first-undock-after-signing-in-sucks/74371/8 "2018-05-06T10:22:28Z")
> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > > [@Cypherous](#): > > > > jita 4-4 station will become vulnerable and be popped > > If once popped it drops all the sell order items as loot I am all for this. Though first I should make a few hundred omega accounts multibox fleet just to can scoop like even 0.00001% of the loot drop and make sure they all only take the highest price bling stuff. 😃 Thing is, if it did happen they would have to remove the assets and replace the station, which is where the massive headache comes in ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2018, 10:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/first-undock-after-signing-in-sucks/74371/9 "2018-05-06T10:54:05Z")
Probably. My post was just a joke so skipped that aspect in it. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2018, 11:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/first-undock-after-signing-in-sucks/74371/10 "2018-05-06T11:10:10Z")
It’s CCP = Can’t Code Properly. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 11:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/first-undock-after-signing-in-sucks/74371/11 "2018-08-04T11:10:11Z")
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