# Fit/shiptype for lvl 4 mission vs ammar enemy npc **URL:** \ **Category:** Missions\ **Created:** [September 28, 2017, 5:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fit-shiptype-for-lvl-4-mission-vs-ammar-enemy-npc/27974 "2017-09-28T05:40:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![kavliara\_toudiastimatos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kavliara_toudiastimatos/32/27953_2.png) [@kavliara\_toudiastimatos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/kavliara_toudiastimatos)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 5:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fit-shiptype-for-lvl-4-mission-vs-ammar-enemy-npc/27974/1 "2017-09-28T05:40:57Z")
hello i want to kill ammar npc lvl 4missions to get some tags i have very good skills + maruders tryed with an expencive golem couse to heavy damage income and got ganked so is there any ather cheap ship/fit that can do that? thanks for help ---
**Author:** ![A\_bad\_Man](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/a_bad_man/32/288019_2.png) [@A\_bad\_Man](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/A_bad_Man)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 7:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fit-shiptype-for-lvl-4-mission-vs-ammar-enemy-npc/27974/2 "2017-09-28T07:40:14Z")
Passive tanked Gila, perhaps? Barring the couple of hundred mil for the hull itself, it works fine with t2 fittings and requires no bling whatsoever. You can fit the whole thing for under 300 mil, and the high shield HP and resistance profile of a passive tank make it very gank-resistant, not that anyone would likely bother. ---
**Author:** ![Andrew\_Indy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andrew_indy/32/13108_2.png) [@Andrew\_Indy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andrew_Indy)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 8:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fit-shiptype-for-lvl-4-mission-vs-ammar-enemy-npc/27974/3 "2017-09-28T08:04:32Z")
You should be able to do most missions with a T2 fit Marauder, that will generally reduce ganking a fair amount without reducing your income a lot (a Gila would be be a lot loser for a full clear, might be OK for blitzable missions) If you are working for Amarr then a Paladin is a good option or you could always go for a Mach. The main thing is that Gankers are attracted by bling modules (and some times tears) more so that really expensive hulls. ---
**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 1:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fit-shiptype-for-lvl-4-mission-vs-ammar-enemy-npc/27974/4 "2017-09-28T13:39:34Z")
where are you based hi sec or low/null ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 2:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fit-shiptype-for-lvl-4-mission-vs-ammar-enemy-npc/27974/5 "2017-09-28T14:22:03Z")
Someone didn’t read my guide… ---
**Author:** ![Vortexo\_VonBrenner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vortexo_vonbrenner/32/64874_2.png) [@Vortexo\_VonBrenner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vortexo_VonBrenner)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 8:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fit-shiptype-for-lvl-4-mission-vs-ammar-enemy-npc/27974/6 "2017-09-28T20:32:46Z")
Murdering Her Glorious Imperial Majesty’s loyal servants is heresy against the natural order. If you absolutely must commit such barbaric crimes, perhaps you might consider a Raven with EM cruise missiles. Since you were flying a golem, a Raven should work for you. ---
**Author:** ![Buoytender\_Bob](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/buoytender_bob/32/374377_2.png) [@Buoytender\_Bob](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Buoytender_Bob)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 8:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fit-shiptype-for-lvl-4-mission-vs-ammar-enemy-npc/27974/7 "2017-09-28T20:41:13Z")
How on earth did you lose a Golem in a level 4 mission? Sorry, but you have to fail fit AND not use EVE survival; was there some drinking or player interaction going on as well? ---
**Author:** ![Abyss\_Azizora](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abyss_azizora/32/15938_2.png) [@Abyss\_Azizora](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abyss_Azizora)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 10:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fit-shiptype-for-lvl-4-mission-vs-ammar-enemy-npc/27974/8 "2017-09-28T22:13:04Z")
> [@Buoytender\_Bob](#): > > How on earth did you lose a Golem in a level 4 mission? Sorry, but you have to fail fit AND not use EVE survival; was there some drinking or player interaction going on as well? He must mean he was suicide ganked. (or killed during a wardec) As a marauder can’t die in a level 4 mission to npcs, not unless your internet drops or something. ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2017, 6:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fit-shiptype-for-lvl-4-mission-vs-ammar-enemy-npc/27974/9 "2017-09-29T06:28:46Z")
> [@Abyss\_Azizora](#): > > not unless your internet drops or something. …in which case, I would petition it. But in all fairness, don’t shoot the Amarr. ---
**Author:** ![Forseti\_Valkyrie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/forseti_valkyrie/32/29645_2.png) [@Forseti\_Valkyrie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Forseti_Valkyrie)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2017, 7:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fit-shiptype-for-lvl-4-mission-vs-ammar-enemy-npc/27974/10 "2017-09-29T19:40:50Z")
You have a KM of this ‘gank’? or did u just go afk and the rats took u down? Even if it was suicide ganking, it would take a lot of dps to take a marauder in bastion mode down… curious indeed. ---
**Author:** ![Chainsaw\_Plankton](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chainsaw_plankton/32/256180_2.png) [@Chainsaw\_Plankton](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chainsaw_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2017, 9:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fit-shiptype-for-lvl-4-mission-vs-ammar-enemy-npc/27974/11 "2017-09-29T21:50:00Z")
> [@Abyss\_Azizora](#): > > unless your internet drops or something. considering it takes 4m15s to DC, yep that’s a lot of time to lose a ship. Why I switched to permatanking ships. ---
**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2017, 2:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fit-shiptype-for-lvl-4-mission-vs-ammar-enemy-npc/27974/12 "2017-09-30T02:45:41Z")
i think its an alt because even rat kills get km on zkill iirc ---
**Author:** ![Abyss\_Azizora](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abyss_azizora/32/15938_2.png) [@Abyss\_Azizora](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abyss_Azizora)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2017, 9:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fit-shiptype-for-lvl-4-mission-vs-ammar-enemy-npc/27974/13 "2017-09-30T09:35:27Z")
> [@Chainsaw\_Plankton](#): > > > [@Abyss\_Azizora](#): > > > > unless your internet drops or something. > > considering it takes 4m15s to DC, yep that’s a lot of time to lose a ship. Why I switched to permatanking ships. Well it used to be 100% safe even when you DC’d, then they murdered DC’ing ratters in order to balance logoffskiing supers by making all modules deactivate when you crash/dc. So the only “permatank” ships that exist are passive shield tanks now. ---
**Author:** ![Chainsaw\_Plankton](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chainsaw_plankton/32/256180_2.png) [@Chainsaw\_Plankton](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chainsaw_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 12:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fit-shiptype-for-lvl-4-mission-vs-ammar-enemy-npc/27974/14 "2017-10-02T00:29:15Z")
and when did that happen? ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2017, 12:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fit-shiptype-for-lvl-4-mission-vs-ammar-enemy-npc/27974/15 "2017-12-31T00:29:28Z")
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