# Fix this CCP. You keep losing players

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fix-this-ccp-you-keep-losing-players/289872>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [January 13, 2021, 5:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fix-this-ccp-you-keep-losing-players/289872 "2021-01-13T05:55:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Massilian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/massilian/32/251077_2.png) [@Massilian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Massilian)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 6:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fix-this-ccp-you-keep-losing-players/289872/233 "2021-01-15T18:48:32Z")

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LOL ok.

So ganking is guuud, really good. Another goal to look forward to attaining.  
Thank you for the explanation o7

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 6:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fix-this-ccp-you-keep-losing-players/289872/234 "2021-01-15T18:48:53Z")

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I’m afraid not. They shut it down a few years ago. I loved hanging out in the cafe. 😢

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**Author:** ![hellokittyonline](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hellokittyonline/32/244672_2.png) [@hellokittyonline](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/hellokittyonline)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 6:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fix-this-ccp-you-keep-losing-players/289872/235 "2021-01-15T18:50:29Z")

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Sure but nowhere near the rate at which stuff explodes to other players. PvP is what drives the market.

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 6:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fix-this-ccp-you-keep-losing-players/289872/236 "2021-01-15T18:50:34Z")

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It’s good for the economy, as an industrialist and a trader I consider gankers to be my marketing department.

It’s not as easy as it looks either; it looks effortless because gankers have streamlined and perfected the art of the gank.

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**Author:** ![Massilian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/massilian/32/251077_2.png) [@Massilian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Massilian)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 6:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fix-this-ccp-you-keep-losing-players/289872/237 "2021-01-15T18:52:43Z")

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I will learn. All it takes is patience and determination.

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 6:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fix-this-ccp-you-keep-losing-players/289872/238 "2021-01-15T18:54:13Z")

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Indeed, if you want to know how it works train an alt into Catalysts and tag along with a few gank fleets; CODE. are often very welcoming to outsiders that wish to learn a little about the dark side.

A willingness to learn is always welcome in Eve.

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 6:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fix-this-ccp-you-keep-losing-players/289872/239 "2021-01-15T18:55:56Z")

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Sometimes.  
But also they can tell u that while the truth is different entirely.

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**Author:** ![Massilian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/massilian/32/251077_2.png) [@Massilian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Massilian)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fix-this-ccp-you-keep-losing-players/289872/240 "2021-01-15T18:56:37Z")

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CODE, ok.  
I want to gank the hell out of Amarrians. That’s my long-term goal.

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**Author:** ![Tharvus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tharvus/32/246994_2.png) [@Tharvus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tharvus)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 6:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fix-this-ccp-you-keep-losing-players/289872/241 "2021-01-15T18:57:37Z")

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> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#):
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> I’ve had the same reaction from people when I mine the rocks that they’re mining out from under them.

Carebears go completely apeshit if you cross them just a little bit, wishing rl death, diseases and whatnot. It’s quite hilarious to see the thin veneer of friendliness just instantly disappear when you touch their isk/h. What’s even more funny is that they then point pingers to the nasty PVPer and call them antisocial and whatnot.

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 6:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fix-this-ccp-you-keep-losing-players/289872/242 "2021-01-15T18:58:02Z")

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If you’re happy and you know it, Pod Amarr  
If you cannot find Caldari, Pod Amarr  
If the Minnie are frisky,  
Gallente is looking shifty,  
Jovians are too risky,  
Pod Amarr.

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 6:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fix-this-ccp-you-keep-losing-players/289872/243 "2021-01-15T18:58:23Z")

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Stereotypes.

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**Author:** ![Tharvus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tharvus/32/246994_2.png) [@Tharvus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tharvus)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 6:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fix-this-ccp-you-keep-losing-players/289872/244 "2021-01-15T18:59:51Z")

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> [@Massilian](#):
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> So ganking is guuud, really good. Another goal to look forward to attaining.  
> Thank you for the explanation o7

Destruction of any kind is good. Let the venerable Mr Zorg explain it to you: [https://youtu.be/UkFAcFtBD48?t=40](https://youtu.be/UkFAcFtBD48?t=40)

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**Author:** ![Tharvus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tharvus/32/246994_2.png) [@Tharvus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tharvus)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 7:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fix-this-ccp-you-keep-losing-players/289872/245 "2021-01-15T19:00:36Z")

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> [@Nana\_Skalski](#):
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> Stereotypes

With a foundation in truth, it happens fairly often.

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 7:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fix-this-ccp-you-keep-losing-players/289872/246 "2021-01-15T19:00:50Z")

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Movie villains being authority now?

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**Author:** ![Massilian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/massilian/32/251077_2.png) [@Massilian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Massilian)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 7:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fix-this-ccp-you-keep-losing-players/289872/247 "2021-01-15T19:01:22Z")

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> [@Tharvus](#):
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> Let the venerable Mr Zorg explain it to you:

My favorite scene in that movie. Gary Oldman is AAA actor.

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 7:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fix-this-ccp-you-keep-losing-players/289872/248 "2021-01-15T19:01:45Z")

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Love Gary Oldman in that movie.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 7:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fix-this-ccp-you-keep-losing-players/289872/249 "2021-01-15T19:12:10Z")

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> [@Nana\_Skalski](#):
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> Stereotypes.

No, it’s absolutely true.

Some of the stuff said to me by carebears over the years would make you claw your eyes out. In fact, wishing diseases upon people and hoping that something bad happens to their families is something I consider fairly benign these days, all things considered.

I’ve mentioned this before, but I’ve been told by various carebears that they’d kill my family, some tried to doxx me (very incompetently might I add), and one even said he would rape my children. Hell, I’ve been threatened with violence on the forums _twice_ in the past couple of months just for what I post.

Never had anything from PvPers/non-carebears aside from some regular smack-talk, and (occasionally) a few curses or slurs.

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 7:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fix-this-ccp-you-keep-losing-players/289872/250 "2021-01-15T19:21:16Z")

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> **[Confirmation bias](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias)**
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> Confirmation bias is the tendency to search for, interpret, favor, and recall information in a way that confirms or supports one's prior beliefs or values. People tend to unconsciously select information that supports their views, but ignore non-supportive or contradicting information. People also tend to interpret ambiguous evidence as supporting their existing position. The effect is strongest for desired outcomes, for emotionally charged issues, and for deeply entrenched beliefs.
> Confirmatio...

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**Author:** ![hellokittyonline](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hellokittyonline/32/244672_2.png) [@hellokittyonline](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/hellokittyonline)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 7:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fix-this-ccp-you-keep-losing-players/289872/251 "2021-01-15T19:24:33Z")

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Yea I have the same thing happen to me on a regular basis. If I pop a PvPer they give me a “good fight” / “what did I do wrong?”. If I pop a PvEer There is a very good chance he will flip his lid and say some extremely inappropriate things. I’m mainly talking about the PvEer who thinks he shouldn’t have to deal with PvP. That type of player usually treats me as if I am a murderer in real life as opposed to a person playing the villain in a ROLE PLAYING GAME.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 7:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fix-this-ccp-you-keep-losing-players/289872/252 "2021-01-15T19:25:15Z")

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It could be confirmation bias.

Or it could be a massive correlation between personality type and chosen in-game activity archetype.

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