# Fix this CCP. You keep losing players **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [January 13, 2021, 5:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fix-this-ccp-you-keep-losing-players/289872 "2021-01-13T05:55:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![safira\_jomita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/safira_jomita/32/405219_2.png) [@safira\_jomita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/safira_jomita)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 10:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fix-this-ccp-you-keep-losing-players/289872/333 "2021-01-16T10:57:48Z")
Very easy to say that , when y don’t need to raise ADM, and is very hard to drop a fleet in your system. ---
**Author:** ![Ivicek\_Grikov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ivicek_grikov/32/251454_2.png) [@Ivicek\_Grikov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ivicek_Grikov)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 11:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fix-this-ccp-you-keep-losing-players/289872/334 "2021-01-16T11:09:24Z")
eve is full of cheating players but the good news is that some of them are beginning to get banned. ---
**Author:** ![Massilian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/massilian/32/251077_2.png) [@Massilian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Massilian)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 11:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fix-this-ccp-you-keep-losing-players/289872/335 "2021-01-16T11:17:20Z")
> [@Massilian](#): > > Many POS stations refuse docking and NPC stations are virtually non-existent in the Null systems I’ve visited. Let me rephrase that so I don’t commit the inexcusable heresy of using the wrong appellation. Many non-npc corporation-owned structures refuse docking and npc structures are non existant. > [@Scipio\_Artelius](#): > > They were all converted to Upwell structures, and they show how many people are docked in them Do you mean that I can see how many people are in the non-npc corporation-owned structures by mousing over them when on grid with them? ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 11:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fix-this-ccp-you-keep-losing-players/289872/336 "2021-01-16T11:19:00Z")
> [@Massilian](#): > > Do you mean that I can see how many people are in the non-npc corporation-owned structures by mousing over them when on grid with them? Yes. When you mouse over an Upwell structure it will tell you if it is a low power/abandoned, it’s name and in brackets, how many online characters are currently docked in it. ---
**Author:** ![Massilian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/massilian/32/251077_2.png) [@Massilian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Massilian)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 11:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fix-this-ccp-you-keep-losing-players/289872/337 "2021-01-16T11:20:08Z")
Thank you. Now I understand. Will someone put a bounty on my head for using the wrong words ? ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 11:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fix-this-ccp-you-keep-losing-players/289872/338 "2021-01-16T11:20:51Z")
> [@Massilian](#): > > Will someone put a bounty on my head for using the wrong words ? Sure. Give me a minute. ---
**Author:** ![Massilian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/massilian/32/251077_2.png) [@Massilian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Massilian)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 11:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fix-this-ccp-you-keep-losing-players/289872/339 "2021-01-16T11:21:38Z")
> [@Scipio\_Artelius](#): > > Sure. Give me a minute 😂 I’ll send you an in-game message to let you know where and when to collect. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 11:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fix-this-ccp-you-keep-losing-players/289872/340 "2021-01-16T11:31:05Z")
> [@Massilian](#): > > and npc structures are non existant. By definition, the only NPC structures are the FOBs. see [Structure - EVE Online Reference](https://everef.net/categories/65) . That’s the category for structures. The NPC stations are [Station - EVE Online Reference](https://everef.net/categories/3) (category:station) and the POS are [Starbase - EVE Online Reference](https://everef.net/categories/23) (category:starbase) > [@Massilian](#): > > Will someone put a bounty on my head for using the wrong words ? It’s not a matter of bounty but of misusing the terms and thus inducing contradictions in your own words. Contradiction that lead to several way of interpreting the non-contradictory message you wanted to convey. Just like when people tell you they live in a WH . It’s not correct, they live in a wormhole-space system. The WH is just the tunnel, its 2 structures on grid, and the 2 signature that refer to them. They are used to correcting that exaggeration, but still when explaining to newbros they should avoid that. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 11:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fix-this-ccp-you-keep-losing-players/289872/341 "2021-01-16T11:33:51Z")
> [@Massilian](#): > > 😂 I’ll send you an in-game message to let you know where and when to collect. Just wait a bit. CCP currently have player bounties disabled as part of collecting data. So you can’t currently receive a Wanted label. ---
**Author:** ![Massilian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/massilian/32/251077_2.png) [@Massilian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Massilian)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 11:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fix-this-ccp-you-keep-losing-players/289872/342 "2021-01-16T11:41:07Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > Contradiction that lead to several way of interpreting the non-contradictory message you wanted to convey I’ll be mopping in space as a heretic for ever unless I biomass 😧 ---
**Author:** ![Dravick\_Afterthought](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dravick_afterthought/32/282017_2.png) [@Dravick\_Afterthought](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dravick_Afterthought)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 1:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fix-this-ccp-you-keep-losing-players/289872/343 "2021-01-16T13:50:20Z")
> [@DragoFire](#): > > It been applied to T-Space and no one has complained about it. “T-space” ? Is that Pochven ? ---
**Author:** ![Dravick\_Afterthought](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dravick_afterthought/32/282017_2.png) [@Dravick\_Afterthought](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dravick_Afterthought)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 1:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fix-this-ccp-you-keep-losing-players/289872/344 "2021-01-16T13:51:55Z")
> [@Massilian](#): > > Will someone put a bounty on my head for using the wrong words ? There are those here who will put a bounty on your head for daring to post… ---
**Author:** ![Massilian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/massilian/32/251077_2.png) [@Massilian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Massilian)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 1:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fix-this-ccp-you-keep-losing-players/289872/345 "2021-01-16T13:59:26Z")
Why do I suddenly feel a chill up my spine ? ---
**Author:** ![DragoFire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dragofire/32/257926_2.png) [@DragoFire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DragoFire)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 6:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fix-this-ccp-you-keep-losing-players/289872/346 "2021-01-16T18:23:18Z")
Yes, T-Space is Pochven or Triglavian Space. ---
**Author:** ![Pimp\_Slappy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pimp_slappy/32/251488_2.png) [@Pimp\_Slappy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pimp_Slappy)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 6:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fix-this-ccp-you-keep-losing-players/289872/347 "2021-01-16T18:42:17Z")
I mean i feel your pain and i agree ccp should have fixed this long ago as the mechanics ONLY benefit the gankers and there is limited recourse a pilot has in high sec to defend themselves, so its one sided BS for sure, HOWEVER, it has been like this since forever (17 years), so you should have known better and planned accordingly or accepted your loss as YOUR fault. Never fly what you cant afford to lose has been the saying since day 1 that i have played anyway ('04). I do hope CCP change these mechanics though they are ridiculous and always have been. ---
**Author:** ![Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avaelica_kuershin/32/478139_2.png) [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avaelica_Kuershin)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 9:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fix-this-ccp-you-keep-losing-players/289872/348 "2021-01-16T21:36:38Z")
How long do they have to continue collecting data? Bounties are strange things, or rather, some of the reasons people place bounties seem counter-intuitive. ---
**Author:** ![Xiombarg\_Ohmsford](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xiombarg_ohmsford/32/172425_2.png) [@Xiombarg\_Ohmsford](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xiombarg_Ohmsford)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 10:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fix-this-ccp-you-keep-losing-players/289872/349 "2021-01-16T22:48:46Z")
A message to the OP never fly a freighter through Uedama with anything over 300mill in loot, your gonna get popped. Transfer loot piecemeal use a blockade runner with a covert ops cloaking device and never autopilot. Only way your going to be safe especially in high-sec, and running through the pipes towards Jita, or Perimiter. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 10:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fix-this-ccp-you-keep-losing-players/289872/350 "2021-01-16T22:52:45Z")
> [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](#): > > How long do they have to continue collecting data? Yeah I get it. Just one more jagged edge removed from the game. The more it happens, the more the game heads towards a flat, boring, plain. So hopefully they bring them back again, but I have my doubts. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 11:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fix-this-ccp-you-keep-losing-players/289872/351 "2021-01-16T23:25:49Z")
Sadly, the gentrification of Eve continues. ---
**Author:** ![Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiger_space_thedark/32/373728_2.png) [@Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiger_space_Thedark)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 9:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fix-this-ccp-you-keep-losing-players/289872/353 "2021-01-17T21:01:16Z")
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