# Fix this CCP. You keep losing players **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [January 13, 2021, 5:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fix-this-ccp-you-keep-losing-players/289872 "2021-01-13T05:55:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 18
**Author:** ![Clary\_Daemon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/clary_daemon/32/253040_2.png) [@Clary\_Daemon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Clary_Daemon)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 11:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fix-this-ccp-you-keep-losing-players/289872/376 "2021-01-30T23:09:17Z")
I frequently haul stuff to and from jita in my providence, with no web alt. I’ve yet to lose it. I usually am full, both ways. You happened to be unlucky at that moment. You’re not going to win anyone over by trying to compare it to real life. It’s a video game. You get the chance to play as someone you’re not in real life. The whole concept of eve allows for gankers. They will be avenged by concord for their actions. If you want to move valuable assets, use a service. You put a collateral pricetag on it, so if they are as unlucky as you were, you don’t really lose anything. They tend to be good at what they do, because they have experience and have usually taken the time to know when and where they can minimize risk. It’s easy to get salty in a game like this. If you plan to make a go at being successful, you need to learn the basics, and roll with the punches. ---
**Author:** ![Clary\_Daemon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/clary_daemon/32/253040_2.png) [@Clary\_Daemon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Clary_Daemon)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 11:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fix-this-ccp-you-keep-losing-players/289872/377 "2021-01-30T23:16:36Z")
I own over 200 stilettos. I lost one the other day and went on a buying frenzy. Unfortunately, now people have to make or import more for other people to use. v0v ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 11:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fix-this-ccp-you-keep-losing-players/289872/378 "2021-01-30T23:33:36Z")
> [@Clary\_Daemon](#): > > lost one the other day and went on a buying frenzy. Unfortunately, now people have to make or import more for other people to use. Don’t worry, that gap should quickly be filled 🙂 (not by me, but it’s pretty fast.) ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 11:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fix-this-ccp-you-keep-losing-players/289872/379 "2021-01-30T23:37:49Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > Because AP is 10km, not 17. Actually its 15km, thats the default warp-to range the AP uses, and has infact always used ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 11:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fix-this-ccp-you-keep-losing-players/289872/380 "2021-01-30T23:38:33Z")
> [@Cypherous](#): > > Actually its 15km, thats the default warp-to range the AP uses, and has infact always used is it ? I though 15km was regional gate range. I always land at 0 with AP. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 11:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fix-this-ccp-you-keep-losing-players/289872/381 "2021-01-30T23:38:58Z")
Pretty sure they made default AP 10km a few years ago. ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 11:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fix-this-ccp-you-keep-losing-players/289872/382 "2021-01-30T23:41:48Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > Pretty sure they made default AP 10km a few years ago Hmm, so it is, probably been about a decade since i last used the AP lol > [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > I always land at 0 with AP. Be sure to bug report any gates this happens on as its not supposed to ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 11:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fix-this-ccp-you-keep-losing-players/289872/383 "2021-01-30T23:42:51Z")
> [@Cypherous](#): > > Be sure to bug report any gates this happens on as its not supposed to waht ? No it’s how it’s supposed to be. I activate AP only after initiating warp. ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 11:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fix-this-ccp-you-keep-losing-players/289872/384 "2021-01-30T23:44:12Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > waht ? No it’s how it’s supposed to be. I activate AP only after initiating warp Then that has nothing to do with the autopilot, you already initiated a manual warp to 0, AP has literally nothing to do with it once your warp drive is active lol, also means there is no real reason to even use the AP as you just select jump instead of warp to 0 for the exact same effect ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 11:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fix-this-ccp-you-keep-losing-players/289872/385 "2021-01-30T23:45:35Z")
waht ? I always land at 0 when I AP so I’m not sure the gate AP distance, period. If you don’t understand that, make exaggeration, over interpretations, not my fault. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 11:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fix-this-ccp-you-keep-losing-players/289872/386 "2021-01-30T23:46:13Z")
lol ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 11:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fix-this-ccp-you-keep-losing-players/289872/387 "2021-01-30T23:57:52Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > I always land at 0 when I AP That’s on about the same level as the time that you claimed to be able to kill people without flags in hisec and not get a Concord response; that turned out to be a misrepresentation, otherwise known as a lie. AP drops you at 10km from gate/station, if you’re already in warp when you activate AP it’s a null action, it does nothing. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2021, 12:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fix-this-ccp-you-keep-losing-players/289872/388 "2021-01-31T00:00:10Z")
> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > That’s on about the same level as the time that you claimed to be able to kill people without flags in hisec and not get a Concord response; that turned out to be a lie. And still it’s literally true. You can whine as much as you want. > [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > , if you’re already in warp when you activate AP it’s a null action, it does nothing. No it’s not. But I don’t expect YOU to understand what it actually does, that would be a waste of expectations. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2021, 12:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fix-this-ccp-you-keep-losing-players/289872/389 "2021-01-31T00:00:58Z")
/me takes out dictionary You see, what I meant was \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ so it’s not my fault you lack the reading comprehension skills to \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ and should learn basic \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2021, 12:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fix-this-ccp-you-keep-losing-players/289872/390 "2021-01-31T00:01:43Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > And still it’s literally true. Nope, enabling an NPC to get a kill is not the same as you killing people. > No it’s not. > But I don’t expect YOU to understand what it actually does, that would be a waste of expectations. Please do educate me, I’m always happy to learn something new. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2021, 12:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fix-this-ccp-you-keep-losing-players/289872/391 "2021-01-31T00:03:03Z")
> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > Nope, enabling an NPC to get a kill is not the same as you killing people. OMG you only took 4 years to understand that I was not lying ! Whooooo even my grand chidlren are smarter than you. What a retard. I’m still amazed that you finally realized that YOUR understanding was - and still is - wrong. > [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > Please do educate me, I’m always happy to learn something new. No. ---
**Author:** ![Clary\_Daemon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/clary_daemon/32/253040_2.png) [@Clary\_Daemon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Clary_Daemon)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2021, 12:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fix-this-ccp-you-keep-losing-players/289872/392 "2021-01-31T00:03:52Z")
If you click “jump” before you fly to a gate, then click auto pilot during said flight, you’re wasting a click. You’re already set to warp to 0 and to jump through the gate. Of courses if you leave it on, your next jump will take much longer. Mouse lives matter, stop wasting clicks. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2021, 12:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fix-this-ccp-you-keep-losing-players/289872/393 "2021-01-31T00:05:18Z")
> [@Clary\_Daemon](#): > > Mouse lives matter, stop wasting clicks. ctr S. ---
**Author:** ![Clary\_Daemon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/clary_daemon/32/253040_2.png) [@Clary\_Daemon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Clary_Daemon)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2021, 12:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fix-this-ccp-you-keep-losing-players/289872/394 "2021-01-31T00:06:01Z")
I give it the D. You auto jump ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2021, 12:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fix-this-ccp-you-keep-losing-players/289872/395 "2021-01-31T00:06:48Z")
> [@Clary\_Daemon](#): > > I give it the D. Is that enough ? For me it’s not enough. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fix-this-ccp-you-keep-losing-players/289872.md?page=17) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fix-this-ccp-you-keep-losing-players/289872.md?page=19)