# Fleet Harassment - Ship Bumping

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fleet-harassment-ship-bumping/388607>\
**Category:** Assembly Hall\
**Created:** [December 18, 2022, 1:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fleet-harassment-ship-bumping/388607 "2022-12-18T13:32:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 19\
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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 7:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fleet-harassment-ship-bumping/388607/21 "2022-12-20T07:02:24Z")

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Seriously?  
Take a moment and think about all the ways you could counter the bump instead of coming to the forums and further embarrass yourself by crying to CCP 😃

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**Author:** ![Kang\_Mo-Yeon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kang_mo-yeon/32/347124_2.png) [@Kang\_Mo-Yeon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kang_Mo-Yeon)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 9:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fleet-harassment-ship-bumping/388607/22 "2022-12-20T09:57:17Z")

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Since you obviously lack any kind of manner, I will not respond further to you.

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 10:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fleet-harassment-ship-bumping/388607/23 "2022-12-20T10:07:15Z")

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That’s nice.

You could have spent that time googling how to stop bumpers 😃

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**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 10:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fleet-harassment-ship-bumping/388607/24 "2022-12-20T10:28:17Z")

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> [@Kang\_Mo-Yeon](#):
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> If it is only to disrupt game experience, with no gain at all, it should be punishable. It should not encourage people to come into a system, declaring that they are immune from “CCP retribution”, because they found a legal option which prevents that.

FYI as feedback: People who read this in passing, see that you are trying to get people banned from the game because they use free and fair mechanics in ways you simply don’t like. This is widely considered a dick move.

Beat them in-game on fair terms. Do what everyone else has to do in this game and plan your fleet accordingly, presuming this guy will always be there. Grow a backbone and rise up to the challenge, try to turn it into fun.

There is no respect for people that go “this is not my idea of fun” without ever having tried in the first place.

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**Author:** ![Kang\_Mo-Yeon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kang_mo-yeon/32/347124_2.png) [@Kang\_Mo-Yeon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kang_Mo-Yeon)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 11:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fleet-harassment-ship-bumping/388607/25 "2022-12-20T11:00:26Z")

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Thank you for your feedback.

I trust you have read my introduction. I do not want to get anyone banned on principle. This whole discussion seems to get some people fairly emotional or at least cornering everyone, as if the whole world would be black and white. We all know it isn’t.

I simply suggest to consider editing the FAQ on “bumping”. In cases of severe and totally, perpetual destructive attitude to not be shielded by it. I have a thick skin considering annoying behavior. I would not have raised a suggestion, if it would happen every once in a while.  
If this is not an interesting case for the community, so be it. No harm done.

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 11:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fleet-harassment-ship-bumping/388607/26 "2022-12-20T11:16:47Z")

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> [@Kang\_Mo-Yeon](#):
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> I have a thick skin considering annoying behavior.

Uh. You’ve only provided evidence to the contrary 😃

It isn’t an interesting case. There are counters you can use.

Use them 😃

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**Author:** ![Keara\_the\_Reaver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/keara_the_reaver/32/344828_2.png) [@Keara\_the\_Reaver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Keara_the_Reaver)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 11:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fleet-harassment-ship-bumping/388607/27 "2022-12-20T11:33:21Z")

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> [@Kang\_Mo-Yeon](#):
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> I would not have raised a suggestion, if it would happen every once in a while.

So you never answered my question: Why can’t you guys blow him to smithereens?

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**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 11:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fleet-harassment-ship-bumping/388607/28 "2022-12-20T11:55:28Z")

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> [@Kang\_Mo-Yeon](#):
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> This whole discussion seems to get some people fairly emotional or at least cornering everyone, as if the whole world would be black and white. We all know it isn’t.

Yes, and the question is: what do you, as a capsuleer, do about it?

As I said in my feedback: most of the playerbase engages in-game to deal with the problems raised by other players.

At minimum, I’m sure you can find a way to pay the guy off. You get an added bonus: your competitors get bumped off, more ice for you, you can better afford to keep paying him off.

That type of stuff lands way different than “Dear CCP, please do X”.

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 2:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fleet-harassment-ship-bumping/388607/29 "2022-12-20T14:22:54Z")

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There is something that I don’t understand. Couldn’t you warp around the mining grid with your Orca? I thought boosts would still work if you did this. CCP has made so many changes to boosting that I am not sure anymore.

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**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 3:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fleet-harassment-ship-bumping/388607/30 "2022-12-20T15:10:57Z")

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Yep. Once a boost is received (because a boosting ship was within distance of you when the boost fired off), the full duration lasts, regardless what the boosting ship does. But, there’s the question of “should I root or not”:

- Without being “rooted” by an industrial core:
  - Provide mining boosts.
  - Cannot push the “let everyone compress their ore” button.
  - Keep your mobility.

- When turning on the industrial core:
  - The boosts are _even more_ effective.
  - Can now push the “let everyone compress their ore” button.
  - No longer can move.

People who min/max mining fleets can’t imagine a life without pushing the industrial core button.

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**Author:** ![Cringy\_Cry\_Baby](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cringy_cry_baby/32/294999_2.png) [@Cringy\_Cry\_Baby](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cringy_Cry_Baby)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 4:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fleet-harassment-ship-bumping/388607/31 "2022-12-20T16:55:51Z")

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It’s Adrien Vexier, isn’t it?

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**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 5:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fleet-harassment-ship-bumping/388607/32 "2022-12-20T17:42:42Z")

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It’s more fun when you pretend it’s a secret.

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 6:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fleet-harassment-ship-bumping/388607/33 "2022-12-20T18:12:44Z")

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Just use his greatest nemesis to scare him off:

> **[Ship Scanner I - EVE Online Reference](https://everef.net/type/443)**
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> Scans the target ship and provides a tactical analysis of its capabilities. The further it goes beyond scan range, the more inaccurate its results will be.

😊 😇 😊

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**Author:** ![Azazod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/azazod/32/336190_2.png) [@Azazod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Azazod)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 11:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fleet-harassment-ship-bumping/388607/34 "2022-12-20T23:18:46Z")

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You can’t always do exactly what you want to do exactly where you want to do it without running into trouble. Sometimes you have to find a new system.

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2022, 12:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fleet-harassment-ship-bumping/388607/36 "2022-12-21T00:37:23Z")

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> [@New\_Order\_Enforcer](#):
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> You have to be in lowsec when your omega expires, and set your safeties in a certain way.

Sounds like something CCP will “fix” soon.

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**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2022, 5:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fleet-harassment-ship-bumping/388607/37 "2022-12-21T05:28:10Z")

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Using a Higgs rig and active industrial core will make your Orca all but un-bumpable. It’s a 20x increase in mass, from 150,000 tons to 3 million tons…

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**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2022, 5:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fleet-harassment-ship-bumping/388607/38 "2022-12-21T05:43:25Z")

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You can also have the barges in your fleet web you. Yes, it takes up a mid slot, but your Retriever/Procurer/Hulk isn’t going to survive a gank anyway, no matter what you fit in the mids…

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**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2022, 8:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fleet-harassment-ship-bumping/388607/39 "2022-12-21T08:06:29Z")

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What??? Competition in Eve? Impossible, it’s a solo game and you are all NPCs.

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2023, 7:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fleet-harassment-ship-bumping/388607/41 "2023-04-26T19:49:05Z")

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