# FOB belt rats? how do we defend our mining ship against these?

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**Created:** [June 16, 2018, 12:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fob-belt-rats-how-do-we-defend-our-mining-ship-against-these/83364 "2018-06-16T12:22:24Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mobius\_Snowpaw\_Infinity](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mobius_snowpaw_infinity/32/499187_2.png) [@Mobius\_Snowpaw\_Infinity](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mobius_Snowpaw_Infinity)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 12:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fob-belt-rats-how-do-we-defend-our-mining-ship-against-these/83364/1 "2018-06-16T12:22:24Z")

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is there a type of scram resistant defense drone out there that is scram resistant ?

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**Author:** ![Black\_Pedro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/black_pedro/32/257285_2.png) [@Black\_Pedro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Black_Pedro)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 3:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fob-belt-rats-how-do-we-defend-our-mining-ship-against-these/83364/2 "2018-06-16T15:31:37Z")

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Drones can’t warp so no, there is no drone resistant to scrams.

I think what you want are the ECM drones:

[https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Drones\_102#ECM](https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Drones_102#ECM)

These allow you to break the target lock of an attacker and clear their warp scramblers and disrupters. Not sure if they work against NPCs but I imagine they might. They definitely work against other players.

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**Author:** ![Do\_Little](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/do_little/32/411571_2.png) [@Do\_Little](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Do_Little)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 3:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fob-belt-rats-how-do-we-defend-our-mining-ship-against-these/83364/3 "2018-06-16T15:43:13Z")

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The best solution is to move next door. FOB and Incursion rats are best avoided if you’re flying an industrial ship.

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2018, 3:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fob-belt-rats-how-do-we-defend-our-mining-ship-against-these/83364/4 "2018-09-14T15:43:18Z")

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