# FOB belt rats? Ridiculous **URL:** \ **Category:** Missions\ **Created:** [May 5, 2018, 3:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fob-belt-rats-ridiculous/74384 "2018-05-05T15:38:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2018, 5:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fob-belt-rats-ridiculous/74384/42 "2018-05-09T17:19:03Z")
I was scanning down drones just a few days ago so they either reverted that change or this was never true to begin with. Don’t you mean wrecks? ---
**Author:** ![Kentonio](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kentonio/32/65560_2.png) [@Kentonio](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kentonio)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2018, 5:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fob-belt-rats-ridiculous/74384/43 "2018-05-09T17:20:04Z")
Seriously?! Wow, in that case I completely withdraw that comment, I was totally wrong. I 100% thought it had been removed. 😵 ---
**Author:** ![Khan\_Wrenth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/khan_wrenth/32/14130_2.png) [@Khan\_Wrenth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Khan_Wrenth)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2018, 5:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fob-belt-rats-ridiculous/74384/44 "2018-05-09T17:23:06Z")
Don’t think it could have been wrecks. To my knowledge, wrecks have never been combat scannable. They’ll show up on DSCAN, but people have been begging for them to be combat probe-able ever since I started reading the forums. ---
**Author:** ![Kentonio](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kentonio/32/65560_2.png) [@Kentonio](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kentonio)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2018, 5:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fob-belt-rats-ridiculous/74384/45 "2018-05-09T17:24:14Z")
Wrecks were scannable once, a long time ago. I must have gotten them mixed up in my head with drones like Uriel said. ---
**Author:** ![Ildrara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ildrara/32/56659_2.png) [@Ildrara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ildrara)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2018, 8:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fob-belt-rats-ridiculous/74384/46 "2018-05-09T20:58:41Z")
> [@Black\_Pedro](#): > > Come now, the pirate FOBs are easily seen on dscan, with combat probes, or even in the Agency tab. Their presence is not hidden from the player. How would a player that has been gone for years know to look at the agency tab to go mining? How would a player that has been gone for years know to do a d-scan before warping to a belt in a empty system? Why would a player use combat probes that wants to mine in high sec? You’re reaching. > [@Chainsaw\_Plankton](#): > > IDLE GUNS had a slogan “we play with our members” IDLE GUNS REPRESENT ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2018, 10:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fob-belt-rats-ridiculous/74384/47 "2018-05-09T22:42:30Z")
> [@Kentonio](#): > > Now CCP, could you just explain to me how this qualifies as worthwhile gameplay? I don’t mind losing ships, its part of the game, but this is utterly ridiculous. Oh and the FOB has been sitting in system for what seems like weeks now, because no-one local has a 30 man fleet to throw at it, and the people who can raise those fleets can’t be bothered because the rewards are trash. I copied the relevant part from the initial post, because your last post was just a waste of what could have been a good post. It is a video game. Your crap exploded and you deserved it. You complain about it, because it was too hard for you. **The actual crux of the matter, is that you assumed you were powerful enough to deal with it. The reason why you come here, complaining, is because you overestimated yourself or underestimated the opponent. Likely the former!** It really is that simple. Everything else is just huffpuff hot air from you, disguised behind words. Additionally to this, please go and count the amount of people complaining about this, and you will notice that you are not even worth the consideration. Yes, your voice does not matter. Big Whoop. “Utterly ridiculous” means absolutely naught. You are pissed, sure, why not! The thread, though, is just your ego not being able to deal with the fact that you got bested, and that your crappy ship was not able to survive it. You are the loser here, and there is no amount of words that can conceal that fact. Btw, is this your main? ---
**Author:** ![Kentonio](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kentonio/32/65560_2.png) [@Kentonio](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kentonio)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2018, 2:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fob-belt-rats-ridiculous/74384/48 "2018-05-10T02:02:29Z")
Aww bless, is it a school holiday already? Are you sure your momma isn’t waiting for you to go do some chores? Incidentally, this is absolutely my main, so feel free to come play. If there’s one thing I always love, its emergent content, 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Buggs\_LeRoach](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/buggs_leroach/32/376676_2.png) [@Buggs\_LeRoach](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Buggs_LeRoach)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2018, 6:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fob-belt-rats-ridiculous/74384/49 "2018-05-10T06:01:58Z")
you could suggest when you enter a system with an fob , another channel opens the same way incursion channel opens . yet even with that warning , people still hop to a belt and shoot npcs , then complain they didn’t know about the “super rats” … but you did know , and tried them in a ship not fit for killing frigates , which was promptly exploded for you … other players have teamed up , and are farming them . so the npc’s aren’t the problem … being a stubborn miner who won’t move one system ; maybe … 😀 ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2018, 8:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fob-belt-rats-ridiculous/74384/50 "2018-05-10T08:30:28Z")
So you can not admit it was your fault right from the start? ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2018, 11:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fob-belt-rats-ridiculous/74384/51 "2018-05-10T11:22:36Z")
You are too judgmental. You look too highly of yourself, to tell whose fault it is. Actually you are the only one saying there is a fault. And since you are the only one looking for a fault, thus a culprit, nobody that consider it as a game will agree with you. You are aggressing people over a game, because they have a different opinion than you have. Seriously you need to take some distance. This guy come here telling he doesn’t understand, and you need to jump on him "IT IS YOUR FAULT !!! " . FFS get a life. ---
**Author:** ![Scaugh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scaugh/32/25051_2.png) [@Scaugh](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scaugh)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2018, 12:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fob-belt-rats-ridiculous/74384/52 "2018-05-10T12:50:39Z")
I have first hand experience FOB rats do scram. ---
**Author:** ![Scaugh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scaugh/32/25051_2.png) [@Scaugh](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scaugh)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2018, 12:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fob-belt-rats-ridiculous/74384/53 "2018-05-10T12:59:42Z")
I’ve been hit with drifter standings despite never attacking one. How you may ask: Well the event for SoCT currently running has resulted in me taking drifter standing hits in certain systems and not others. Bug reports filed and as per usual CCP are sitting in their hands. There is nothing showing in the logs… ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2018, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fob-belt-rats-ridiculous/74384/54 "2018-05-10T13:05:10Z")
well for sure that does not happen everytime. Last time I tried my dominix happily mjd’d out of the pack. ---
**Author:** ![edeity](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/edeity/32/251884_2.png) [@edeity](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/edeity)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2018, 11:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fob-belt-rats-ridiculous/74384/55 "2018-05-10T23:27:46Z")
The first thing you learn in Fac War is that its not the big ships that kill you, but the little ones. Fit for tracking, fit for dps, fit for range. There is a reason my navy harbs are fit to hit an afterburner fit frigate orbiting at 500m with their HEAVY BEAMS. Tracking computer, web, 2 target painters (faction is even better, and maximise your skills to increase the sig radius), tracking speed implant (there is an 8% one that is cheap…) and drugs. Much more important than tank. As you now know. ---
**Author:** ![Lugia3](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugia3/32/72772_2.png) [@Lugia3](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugia3)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2018, 9:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fob-belt-rats-ridiculous/74384/56 "2018-05-11T09:52:14Z")
> [@Kentonio](#): > > The day I WAAAAA-RAGE over the loss of a Hurricane is the day I give up on not only Eve but video games in general. > [@Kentonio](#): > > Typical 12 year old response. Much as this may blow your adolescent mind, Eve is a video game. It’s perfectly legitimate to discuss the mechanics and gameplay in terms of balancing and overall effect. If you feel like a failure when you get an internet spaceship popped, then you really should leave your mom’s basement more often. > > People like you are exactly the reason CCP keep putting poorly balanced features in game and then never fixing them. Instead of proving constructive feedback and calling for fixes, you just defend the indefensible. So is today the day you’re quitting video games? ---
**Author:** ![Kentonio](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kentonio/32/65560_2.png) [@Kentonio](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kentonio)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2018, 4:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fob-belt-rats-ridiculous/74384/57 "2018-05-11T16:31:28Z")
I’m pissed at a poorly balanced game system, not over the loss of a ship. I’ve been playing this game far too long for a BC loss to get me particularly angry. I do however still get annoyed by new game systems that aren’t well implemented, and I’d hope other people are too. CCP aren’t going to bother rebalancing systems that no-one complains about. ---
**Author:** ![Chan\_aar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chan_aar/32/377560_2.png) [@Chan\_aar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chan_aar)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2018, 5:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fob-belt-rats-ridiculous/74384/58 "2018-05-11T17:40:06Z")
> [@Kentonio](#): > > CCP aren’t going to bother rebalancing systems that no-one complains about. We complained long and hard about the poor rewards for Resource Wars. What did CCP do? Say that “due to poor player take up (because the rewards were crap) we are abandoning that feature”. FOB’s are in, FOB’s are working as (CCP) intended. Do not expect any changes, no matter how many people complain, they have moved on to the next shiny feature now. ---
**Author:** ![Kentonio](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kentonio/32/65560_2.png) [@Kentonio](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kentonio)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2018, 5:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fob-belt-rats-ridiculous/74384/59 "2018-05-11T17:41:28Z")
You’re probably right. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2018, 6:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fob-belt-rats-ridiculous/74384/60 "2018-05-11T18:04:09Z")
Something very similar happened in case of WiS as well. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Keno\_Skir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/keno_skir/32/460582_2.png) [@Keno\_Skir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Keno_Skir)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2018, 10:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fob-belt-rats-ridiculous/74384/61 "2018-05-12T10:22:18Z")
Would you like a pop up warning or something when you enter a belt? “Careful certain belt rats may cause incredible levels of butt-hurt on the forums”. It seems most are fine with a bit of added danger, but as always some people don’t like losing ships and feel the need to cover it up with waaaaah. You learned your lesson and now should be easily able to avoid said rats if that’s your thing. Adapt, overcome and quit blaming your anger on bad mechanics when you really just died to some rats. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fob-belt-rats-ridiculous/74384.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fob-belt-rats-ridiculous/74384.md?page=4)