# FOB rats are OP? **URL:** \ **Category:** Missions\ **Created:** [October 25, 2018, 8:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fob-rats-are-op/115882 "2018-10-25T20:58:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2018, 11:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fob-rats-are-op/115882/21 "2018-10-26T11:05:39Z")
> [@Isabella\_Loja](#): > > I disagree with that. If you are a 100% infustrial player you can’t deal with the FOB rats on your own. I am capable of dealing with fob rats on my own… as an industrialist. Doesn’t even take that much effort. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2018, 11:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fob-rats-are-op/115882/22 "2018-10-26T11:18:56Z")
one hull tanked megathorn with mwd, grappler, scram and web can take down a single fob squad. ---
**Author:** ![Jonni\_Rico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonni_rico/32/97445_2.png) [@Jonni\_Rico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonni_Rico)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2018, 1:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fob-rats-are-op/115882/23 "2018-10-27T01:23:11Z")
> [@Solecist\_Project](#): > > look for players who are good enough at killing FOB Friends acquired. Problem solved. #THREADLOCKED lol ---
**Author:** ![Fluffy\_Moe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fluffy_moe/32/11132_2.png) [@Fluffy\_Moe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fluffy_Moe)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2018, 5:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fob-rats-are-op/115882/24 "2018-10-27T05:35:05Z")
> [@Jonni\_Rico](#): > > I’m all for the advanced AI and the idea of the FOB and the rats pissing me off by reinforcing my citadels and all that. > > I draw the line at their ability to land directly on top of me when I warp in to a bounce on my citadel. This ability exceeds the ability of ACTUAL players, as these NPCs don’t have to launch combat probes or anything. They just warp to any point they please, without having to scan or any delay that simulates a scan. > > This is an actual game-breaker for me as my home system is under siege by these OP advanced-AI rats. As such, I withold subscription on all accounts until they’ve been brought to a level that simulates actual players, or my loss has been replaced. Who wants to play against some god-like entity with unlimited ability to move in space as they please? Not me. > > EDIT: AND they pod you I had FOB rats warp on top of me several times and took them out without too much trouble. So not quite sure what to tell you there. The only time I had a problem was the 1st time I was engaged by them as I simply wasn’t quite ready or thinking about it. 2nd, if push comes to shove, kill the FOB and they will go away. O and with regards to the D-Scan. While the NPCs may not show up the FOB itself does and if you’re at -10 faction to them and experienced player then you already know what that means. Just hop onto your favorite T3C or whatever else and kill them. Not too difficult. ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2018, 9:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fob-rats-are-op/115882/25 "2018-10-28T21:37:29Z")
> [@Fluffy\_Moe](#): > > While the NPCs may not show up But they do when you add them in the overview settings in “entities”, the diamond tagged NPCs at the bottom of the list. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Yurgin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/peter_yurgin/32/23907_2.png) [@Peter\_Yurgin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Peter_Yurgin)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 10:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fob-rats-are-op/115882/26 "2018-11-27T22:22:24Z")
I also think it’s a good idea until they show up in .9s and 1.0s. These systems should not have these FOBs spawn here. Sansha incursions should be the same way. And concord should be doing their job of stopping these rats these high sec security status. This is besides the point people are taking out the FOB in Vexors with ogres and being speed tanked. So when the rats land on the spot the vexor is already too far away and they need to rewarp again to the vexor while the ogres are out attacking the FOB. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Yurgin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/peter_yurgin/32/23907_2.png) [@Peter\_Yurgin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Peter_Yurgin)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 9:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fob-rats-are-op/115882/27 "2018-12-06T21:50:27Z")
> **[Guristas Forward Operating Base | Ship](https://zkillboard.com/ship/46363/)** > > Guristas Forward Operating Base: 0 ships destroyed and 506 ships lost. Does anyone else agree that this is broken? It can now be solo’d in a single rattlesnake or a speed tanked Vexor. Check the kills. This should not appear in .9s and above but it has been figured out so much that 1 guy can fly around just knocking them all down at will. ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 10:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fob-rats-are-op/115882/28 "2018-12-06T22:07:50Z")
The scaling was done poorly. Adding pilots actually made it harder, not easier. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2019, 10:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fob-rats-are-op/115882/29 "2019-03-06T22:08:03Z")
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