# For Folks who are 'Leaving' **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 27, 2021, 4:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-folks-who-are-leaving/329893 "2021-09-27T04:32:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 23
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 7:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-folks-who-are-leaving/329893/481 "2021-10-21T07:29:32Z")
> [@Arumi\_Liz](#): > > You can’t play the market because you have no real isk and so it’s either exploration, missions, or mining. 1. Word salad, JFC use the enter key 2. All of those activities can generate more than enough ISK for fund PvP. 3. You seem to be assuming people should solo play. A newbro can null up and krab up ISK for easily. Thankee. ---
**Author:** ![Kylanti\_Hendar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kylanti_hendar/32/385538_2.png) [@Kylanti\_Hendar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kylanti_Hendar)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 8:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-folks-who-are-leaving/329893/483 "2021-10-21T08:49:33Z")
> [@Arumi\_Liz](#): > > so it’s either exploration, missions, or mining. I’m coming to the conclusion that one of the main problems people have making isk is the ‘either’ part of this statement. Instead the key to getting lots of isk is ‘and’. For example, in industry, looting and reprocessing and salvaging and pi and production and marketing (and mining - if you really hate yourself). ---
**Author:** ![Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kellie_mccalamitie/32/285447_2.png) [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kellie_McCalamitie)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 10:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-folks-who-are-leaving/329893/488 "2021-10-21T10:22:55Z")
> [@Renogg](#): > > Something is defiantly wrong with this game. Once you figure ^^that^^ out it’s smooth sailing from there. Do what you like/can do and ignore the rest. Game is **broken** and CCP doesn’t want to spend money to fix it so if you like the game, as I do, just play it nonchalant without expecting much, you’ll definitely won’t ‘win’ since it’s supposed to be open-world. just something to play to take a break from your other games. Don’t spend real money on it and fly Destroyers you can buy cheap, you can find many in the Contract section, usually cheaper and fully fitted. Mine in empty systems and dock when you see NPC’s or use drones or undock your Destroyer, wipe out the NPC’s and then continue mining. Once that gets boring just log off and play another game until you feel like mining again. o7 ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 11:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-folks-who-are-leaving/329893/489 "2021-10-21T11:00:17Z")
> [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](#): > > Game is **broken** and CCP doesn’t want to spend money to fix it so if you like the game, as I do, just play it nonchalant without expecting much, you’ll definitely won’t ‘win’ since it’s supposed to be open-world. Game isn’t broken, but maybe your expectations of the game were broken. By the way, I’m glad you didn’t continue your plan to biomass your characters before leaving the game. I just hope you made the right choice to stay around though as you really did seem you needed a break from EVE last week. Either way, welcome back! ---
**Author:** ![AbuTirja\_Whatever](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abutirja_whatever/32/293434_2.png) [@AbuTirja\_Whatever](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/AbuTirja_Whatever)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 11:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-folks-who-are-leaving/329893/490 "2021-10-21T11:48:38Z")
> [@Mike\_Azariah](#): > > So if you are going to go? Go. But you might be missing out on what Eve is. Maybe that is why you are leaving. You never did ‘get it’ in the first place. After all is said … I think most came to Eve in the first place because it offers so much freedom to do what you want. They then leave Eve because of the freedom OTHERs take for themselfs to do with you as they want. The feeling of helplessness and a pure toxic (at least in these forums) community lets them leave the game. Had a corp-mate that came freshly in, bought some 20 skillinjectors (from sold plex), got shot away in his shuttle leaving Jita with the injectors in his cargo. Well … he rage quit. Yes, all his fault, he should have asked on how to use skill injectors or how to transport things in Eve … but he didn’t. He never came back … Then while I waited for the things to settle a bit down after the great war, I began to play New World … had a corp-mate that I knew from Eve … he quited New World because of … tata … no auto-aim. 40 Euros for the bin 🤣 just my 2 cents ---
**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 12:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-folks-who-are-leaving/329893/491 "2021-10-21T12:14:41Z")
> [@AbuTirja\_Whatever](#): > > They then leave Eve because of the freedom OTHERs take for themselfs to do with you as they want. Yes, that is what competitive open world pvp sandbox kinda means. People who dive into a game without doing like 5 minute research on it before doing so and spending time and/or money. Their fault, their problem, not something to fix on the game’s side apart from perhaps better advertisement. ---
**Author:** ![AbuTirja\_Whatever](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abutirja_whatever/32/293434_2.png) [@AbuTirja\_Whatever](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/AbuTirja_Whatever)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 12:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-folks-who-are-leaving/329893/492 "2021-10-21T12:31:38Z")
Well, with that additude it will stay difficult to keep NewBros … at least I think. Just my 2 cents ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 12:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-folks-who-are-leaving/329893/493 "2021-10-21T12:33:02Z")
Depends on the type of newbro. ---
**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-folks-who-are-leaving/329893/494 "2021-10-21T12:36:44Z")
> [@AbuTirja\_Whatever](#): > > Well, with that additude it will stay difficult to keep NewBros Welcome to a niche pvp sandbox where thinking is required. You’re not going to attract and/or keep most, which is fine. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 2:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-folks-who-are-leaving/329893/495 "2021-10-21T14:27:49Z")
Its wierd how people being accused of being toxic and taking things for themselves also started from nothing and also had to claw a niche for themselves. But Im sure they just got all the breaks in life the others never got, huh? ![arnold+rimmer+1](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/c/2/dc274411218ab718f45330567f5b07fc28e52b4f.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 7:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-folks-who-are-leaving/329893/496 "2021-10-21T19:53:43Z")
> [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](#): > > MORE truth in their face… I love it. It’s absolutely right. In your opinion bruv. I notice my fellow Americans often getting opinion confused as the truth. > [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](#): > > Hahaaaa… tell 'em like it is. So you couldn’t even handle a WoW PvP server? Interesting. > [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](#): > > OH look, politician in the thread… Everybody bend the knee, now. Brave words from someone who went on a pity parade all over the forums ROFL. > [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](#): > > Once you figure ^^that^^ out it’s smooth sailing from there. > > Do what you like/can do and ignore the rest. Game is **broken** and CCP doesn’t want to spend money to fix it so if you like the game, as I do, just play it nonchalant without expecting much, you’ll definitely won’t ‘win’ since it’s supposed to be open-world. > just something to play to take a break from your other games. Don’t spend real money on it and fly Destroyers you can buy cheap, you can find many in the Contract section, usually cheaper and fully fitted. > Mine in empty systems and dock when you see NPC’s or use drones or undock your Destroyer, wipe out the NPC’s and then continue mining. > Once that gets boring just log off and play another game until you feel like mining again. > > o7 So you didn’t biomass and just were attention oring. Figures. Why would you dock when you see NPCs? De faq? Just use your drones ROFL. Even a venture’s 2 drones can take out high sec rats. ---
**Author:** ![Arumi\_Liz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arumi_liz/32/276823_2.png) [@Arumi\_Liz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arumi_Liz)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 9:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-folks-who-are-leaving/329893/500 "2021-10-21T21:38:45Z")
You literally didn’t or your opinion would be the same. You seem to not understand that different experiences leads to different opinions. ---
**Author:** ![Arumi\_Liz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arumi_liz/32/276823_2.png) [@Arumi\_Liz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arumi_Liz)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 9:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-folks-who-are-leaving/329893/501 "2021-10-21T21:40:18Z")
Oh yea, my t3 destroyer absolutely eating a lvl 4 mission boat totally took a lot of thinking to f1 and orbit under their guns lol. It wasn’t the skill training or pve activity to even afford the hull that was the majority of my work to get to that point. It was totally because my f1 and orbit skills were too good lmao. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 9:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-folks-who-are-leaving/329893/502 "2021-10-21T21:42:55Z")
> [@Arumi\_Liz](#): > > You literally didn’t or your opinion would be the same. I literally didnt start from nothing and preservre through the same experiences as everyone else and didnt end up giving up? _Looks around_ And yet Im still on Omega and active in game. Thats wierd. ---
**Author:** ![Xucca](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xucca/32/373499_2.png) [@Xucca](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xucca)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 11:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-folks-who-are-leaving/329893/508 "2021-10-21T23:00:07Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > More CCP tags. Exactomondo! ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 9:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-folks-who-are-leaving/329893/510 "2021-10-22T09:21:44Z")
> [@AbuTirja\_Whatever](#): > > Had a corp-mate that came freshly in, bought some 20 skillinjectors (from sold plex), got shot away in his shuttle leaving Jita with the injectors in his cargo. Well … he rage quit. I spent time last night explaining to a one day old rookie why it was not a great idea to travel to a trade hub while carrying skill injectors in a corvette - which he would set on autopilot… Why and how rookies discover the trade value of injectors and the ease of “autopilot” even BEFORE they do ANY of the career agents will never cease to amaze me. They seem to be doing at least some type of research, and fast, into shortcuts to a more favorable start in EvE - which do not exist, of course, EvE sees to it that they come here to complain about being _content_ for vets 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Jumpdrive](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jumpdrive/32/285032_2.png) [@Jumpdrive](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jumpdrive)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 11:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-folks-who-are-leaving/329893/511 "2021-10-22T11:40:32Z")
> [@Wadiest\_Yong](#): > > I spent time last night explaining to a one day old rookie why it was not a great idea to travel to a trade hub while carrying skill injectors in a corvette - which he would set on autopilot… > > Why and how rookies discover the trade value of injectors and the ease of “autopilot” even BEFORE they do ANY of the career agents will never cease to amaze me. They seem to be doing at least some type of research, and fast, into shortcuts to a more favorable start in EvE - which do not exist, It may be useful if you can learn WHERE they pick up such advice. The only way how I see fresh newbies coming up with crazy bad, unintuitive schemes like that, is if someone else presents those ideas to them first. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 12:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-folks-who-are-leaving/329893/513 "2021-10-22T12:20:24Z")
Do you remember that Kestrel full of PLEX that time? Also, during the Triglavian Invasions so many chumps auto piloting and losing their ships without even thinking. I got me a nice Leopard out of that (how lacking in forethought does a person have to be to transport a Leopard in a frieghter?). I dont think anyone tells them anything, I think they think they know it all. In EvE no one knows it all. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 12:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-folks-who-are-leaving/329893/514 "2021-10-22T12:32:34Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > I got me a nice Leopard out of that (how lacking in forethought does a person have to be to transport a Leopard in a frieghter?). I often bring a shuttle along in my ships with large cargohold (provided I have spare space). It’s really useful as it gives your pilot the freedom to easily move around in the shuttle, you just need to (temporarily) dock the bigger ship somewhere. 500m3 packaged is pretty much nothing for a lot of convenience. If I hauled more often and had enough ISK, my shuttles could be Leopards as well. Too bad I’m usually short of ISK. 😅 ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 12:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-folks-who-are-leaving/329893/515 "2021-10-22T12:58:28Z")
> [@Jumpdrive](#): > > It may be useful if you can learn WHERE they pick up such advice. I think we both know where. And one could ask the question if certain (copied) marketing and business approaches are good for new player retention. Cutting corners in EvE leads to banging into two walls. > [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](#): > > Somehow… Someway, I don’t believe you talked to any “rookie” about that and certainly not “yesterday”, how convenient for the conversation, lol The chat log is unaltered. And you only need to spend time in rookie help to know that those are frequent topics. But, by all means, believe what you will, it makes no difference. > [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Do you remember that Kestrel full of PLEX that time? Yup. And also the many shuttles, even with plex vaults already installed but unused. 🤣 [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-folks-who-are-leaving/329893.md?page=22) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-folks-who-are-leaving/329893.md?page=24)