# For Folks who are 'Leaving'

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-folks-who-are-leaving/329893>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [September 27, 2021, 4:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-folks-who-are-leaving/329893 "2021-09-27T04:32:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2021, 2:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-folks-who-are-leaving/329893/847 "2021-11-30T14:28:10Z")

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You know the saying: The truth hurts. 😈

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**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2021, 2:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-folks-who-are-leaving/329893/848 "2021-11-30T14:39:36Z")

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> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#):
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> they’re being used with their mains to sway the opinions of others, creating a fake echo chamber giving the impression that the majority has the same opinion. Basically makes them liars.

But the inverse is equally as true…that people are accused of being alt characters in no different a manner to sway opinion. And the people who do that are just as much liars.

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2021, 3:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-folks-who-are-leaving/329893/849 "2021-11-30T15:50:52Z")

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> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#):
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> Lol. I’m gonna park my Procurer here to mine the nonsense you post. Ah…I spot a Nonsensium asteroid at least 20 miles across…

Uh huh.

> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#):
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> Heh, talk about slow, you totally missed the main point.
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> Don’t care if they’re alt characters recently created by old Eve players, they’re being used with their mains to sway the opinions of others, creating a fake echo chamber giving the impression that the majority has the same opinion. Basically makes them liars.
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> Anyway, the main point was about condemning somebody else for doing the exact same thing as they’re doing, constantly spamming troll replies to the point where it derails the thread.

Except the fact that they are being up front that they are alts and experienced EVE players. Cilla is lying about it. Bro if you can’t tell the diff, you are effectively aiding her. Its ok tho bro, we get why 😃

> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#):
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> But the inverse is equally as true…that people are accused of being alt characters in no different a manner to sway opinion. And the people who do that are just as much liars.

Cept this my main and always will be 😃

You don’t even know what gave you away huh? 😃

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**Author:** ![Sushi\_Eater](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sushi_eater/32/302712_2.png) [@Sushi\_Eater](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sushi_Eater)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2021, 3:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-folks-who-are-leaving/329893/850 "2021-11-30T15:55:55Z")

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Is there a re-orientation tutorial for people that left and came back ? Yesterday, I came back after going in hibernation for 10 years. I am still trying to figure out what to do in the game.

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**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2021, 4:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-folks-who-are-leaving/329893/851 "2021-11-30T16:04:50Z")

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Create a new account using your own referral, so you get 1 mil SP on that account, and do a fresh start to get used to things again and ease into it all.

If you’re going to use your main and flying the ships you used back then, you’re probably going to learn the hard and expensive way.

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2021, 4:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-folks-who-are-leaving/329893/852 "2021-11-30T16:09:35Z")

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> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#):
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> Except the fact that they are being up front that they are alts and experienced EVE players.

lol, post a link to that info and prove it.

Otherwise, you’re just…

> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#):
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> lying about it.

and…

> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#):
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> effectively aiding her.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2021, 4:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-folks-who-are-leaving/329893/853 "2021-11-30T16:37:55Z")

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> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#):
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> Well as wardecs are no longer a thing without a player structure he could safely create a corp with zero upkeep without being any more endangered than currently is so theoretically no reason against him creating his own corp even if just to call it “Operation Magic School Bus” or something (not sure if it fits the corp name character limit). Of course not sure if he has any personal reasons not to.

Mike should create a corporation _specifically_ dedicated to wardecs. Maybe he could call it “Operation Magic Bang Bus” or something.

Mike is a total psycho anyway. Underneath that gentle and caring facade is a violent, unhinged lunatic. Trust me, we can tell just from a quick glance at each other. Behind that smile, I can _see_ the thousand-yard stare of a man who plays death metal and bites heads off of live chickens in his sound-proofed, tarped basement at 4 AM in the morning. A wardec corporation would be the perfect outlet. You don’t want _that_ pot to start boiling over, and the way he’s ominously talking about not running for the CSM again, _the signs are all there_.

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2021, 5:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-folks-who-are-leaving/329893/854 "2021-11-30T17:45:52Z")

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> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#):
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> lol, post a link to that info and prove it.
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> Otherwise, you’re just…

Or its called reading the forums? ROFL.

Its ok dude. I get why you’re aiding her.

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2021, 5:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-folks-who-are-leaving/329893/855 "2021-11-30T17:57:47Z")

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> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#):
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> “Operation Magic Bang Bus”

Operation Free Candy Truck seems more fitting that description, especially if he goes for a ganker corp (which would not even require to be war eligible). 😉

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**Author:** ![Mike\_Azariah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mike_azariah/32/512626_2.png) [@Mike\_Azariah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mike_Azariah)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2021, 6:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-folks-who-are-leaving/329893/856 "2021-11-30T18:02:57Z")

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> [@Emira\_Sultana](#):
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> I’d like to join whichever corporation you’ll end up in, or are you already in a player-run corporation? Or are you thinking of creating your own corporation? That would be awesome.

Because | never want Operation Magic School Bus to seem to ‘play favourites’ I have been in an npc corp for a very long time.

m

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2021, 6:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-folks-who-are-leaving/329893/857 "2021-11-30T18:10:54Z")

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That 10% tax tho…

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**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2021, 6:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-folks-who-are-leaving/329893/858 "2021-11-30T18:26:58Z")

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> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#):
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> You don’t even know what gave you away huh?

No…all I know is you haven’t the faintest frikin idea what you are on about, and are simply trying to save face after you said ‘nobody mines in a Catalyst’ and I then came up with a pic of someone doing just that. To me, you are simply digging yourself an ever deeper hole. Likewise the claim that I zonked my own ship to claim my kill right…lol…well now that Support has fixed whatever bug there was…hey Presto, the kill right is back ! Oh…so I didn’t zonk my own ship. But you won’t apologise for accusing me of lying over that, either, will you.

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**Author:** ![Mike\_Azariah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mike_azariah/32/512626_2.png) [@Mike\_Azariah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mike_Azariah)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2021, 8:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-folks-who-are-leaving/329893/859 "2021-11-30T20:01:20Z")

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> [@Mike\_Azariah](#):
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> Because | never want Operation Magic School Bus to seem to ‘play favourites’ I have been in an npc corp for a very long time.
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> m

self quoting . . . but for full disclosure? There is a corporation called Operation Magic School Bus that I specifically made an alt for to hold the name down. Mizz Frizzle is one of my alts (or vice versa)

m

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**Author:** ![Michelle\_Vega](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/michelle_vega/32/387037_2.png) [@Michelle\_Vega](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Michelle_Vega)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2021, 8:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-folks-who-are-leaving/329893/860 "2021-11-30T20:06:21Z")

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As far as i know, the only people leaving are alphas and noobs. Our alliance and fellow enemy alliances have grown at a steady pace over the last 15 years. So if high sec simps are leaving it has nothing to do with eve.

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**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2021, 8:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-folks-who-are-leaving/329893/861 "2021-11-30T20:07:27Z")

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i still say you should allow others help you, other than scamming us out of donations 😛

> **Summary**
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> Mike really doesn’t scam, he’s a good boy 😃

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2021, 8:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-folks-who-are-leaving/329893/862 "2021-11-30T20:09:34Z")

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> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#):
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> No…all I know is you haven’t the faintest frikin idea what you are on about, and are simply trying to save face after you said ‘nobody mines in a Catalyst’ and I then came up with a pic of someone doing just that. To me, you are simply digging yourself an ever deeper hole. Likewise the claim that I zonked my own ship to claim my kill right…lol…well now that Support has fixed whatever bug there was…hey Presto, the kill right is back ! Oh…so I didn’t zonk my own ship. But you won’t apologise for accusing me of lying over that, either, will you.

Oh? Drop the name of the person mining in the cat 😃 I’ll be sure to verify.

You act as if pics can’t be staged 😃 Like I said, you don’t know what gave you away and its hilarious 😃 But very obvious to older players.

I guess I just don’t get the motives of hiding behind an alt. People may like me or hate me, but I’m using the same character regardless.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2021, 8:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-folks-who-are-leaving/329893/863 "2021-11-30T20:25:30Z")

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> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#):
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> I guess I just don’t get the motives of hiding behind an alt. People may like me or hate me, but I’m using the same character regardless.

But I thought you were _my_ alt?

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2021, 8:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-folks-who-are-leaving/329893/864 "2021-11-30T20:41:14Z")

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I’m sure there are some of who think that heh.

I mean Cilla is currently hiding in a starter system and curiously never seems to play.

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2021, 8:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-folks-who-are-leaving/329893/865 "2021-11-30T20:48:17Z")

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> [@Mike\_Azariah](#):
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> There is a corporation called Operation Magic School Bus that I specifically made an alt for to hold the name down.

In this game you’d be dumb not to do that. I can only imagine how many excited scammers got the big let down when trying to make a corp with that name and finding it taken.

Mr Epeen 🕶

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2021, 8:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-folks-who-are-leaving/329893/866 "2021-11-30T20:53:12Z")

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> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#):
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> I mean Cilla is currently hiding in a starter system and curiously never seems to play.

You know, just a new player, learning the game.

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