# For The old Guys Out there, I mean toons over 10 years old **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [February 15, 2023, 11:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-the-old-guys-out-there-i-mean-toons-over-10-years-old/395789 "2023-02-15T23:37:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2023, 7:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-the-old-guys-out-there-i-mean-toons-over-10-years-old/395789/107 "2023-04-01T19:15:24Z")
> [@Melicien\_Tetro](#): > > EVE is the only game mmo that allows you to completely bypass the need for other players You never seen a wizard insta pwn train in EQ2 ( that was fun) or dual boxed in WoW then. ---
**Author:** ![Roland\_Schlosser](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/roland_schlosser/32/392001_2.png) [@Roland\_Schlosser](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Roland_Schlosser)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2023, 10:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-the-old-guys-out-there-i-mean-toons-over-10-years-old/395789/108 "2023-04-01T22:08:33Z")
They also seem to have lost all of the original Devs. Weird how those usually coincide. ---
**Author:** ![Vindicus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vindicus/32/361318_2.png) [@Vindicus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vindicus)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2023, 6:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-the-old-guys-out-there-i-mean-toons-over-10-years-old/395789/109 "2023-04-02T06:32:25Z")
I’ve been here off and on since 2003. I’ve seen a LOT of changes over the years. The biggest change would have to be the playerbase itself. People seemed so much friendlier in the early days. Mostly you had the pirates and anti-pirates and that made for a lot of fun. The game evolved, it much more complex than it used to be. I still play from time to time, running a few missions and keeping my training up to date. I may dip my toe in the new FW and see what its about. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2023, 8:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-the-old-guys-out-there-i-mean-toons-over-10-years-old/395789/111 "2023-04-02T08:19:40Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > people who think that the pirates’ family members should be “it’s true. pirate ARE responsible. pirates are **THE TRUE SCOURGE OF THE UNIVERSE**. bad hair days, traffic congestion, allergies, flakey hardware, IT’S ALL PIRATES’ FAULT. that weird smell you can’t place? PIRATES” ---
**Author:** ![Kitaula\_Kuusa\_Jouhinen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kitaula_kuusa_jouhinen/32/498716_2.png) [@Kitaula\_Kuusa\_Jouhinen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kitaula_Kuusa_Jouhinen)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 12:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-the-old-guys-out-there-i-mean-toons-over-10-years-old/395789/112 "2023-04-03T00:14:54Z")
I’ve played for quite a while, and I think the game is going in a good direction. I’ve lived in lowsec, so don’t give a toss about null or highsec politics. Someone from those areas might have a different opinion, and unfortunately the law protects their “right” to be wrong, so it is what it is. ---
**Author:** ![Oosel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/oosel/32/389219_2.png) [@Oosel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Oosel)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 9:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-the-old-guys-out-there-i-mean-toons-over-10-years-old/395789/113 "2023-04-03T09:05:35Z")
it just sounds better than chars ---
**Author:** ![El\_Paccino](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/el_paccino/32/371265_2.png) [@El\_Paccino](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/El_Paccino)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 4:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-the-old-guys-out-there-i-mean-toons-over-10-years-old/395789/114 "2023-04-03T16:07:57Z")
Think the latest dev news on Youtube contradicts the statement of not listening at the moment, maybe in the past it was directionless - at the moment it about making things easier - and that are probably the thing we miss most. Cause if you did not know a simple thing like where to find an agent - you need to ask - by asking it created community. I think that is what we all miss the most - many feel disconnected and play solo instead of dealing with a know it all youngster that mostly has ego with little interest in telling in old player where what is. So we figure it out on our own and just move on… or am I wrong? Returning players also have much skilling to do to catch up - where some things we could do just fine - now it’s oh wait I need this and that - so we grind all over again - only to find other things to do by the time those skills are done - it a whirlwind really - but community - will always be missed - a team chasing the dream - the dream are only a dream though… or am I wrong here? ---
**Author:** ![Chupi\_fantastika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chupi_fantastika/32/453335_2.png) [@Chupi\_fantastika](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chupi_fantastika)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 7:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-the-old-guys-out-there-i-mean-toons-over-10-years-old/395789/115 "2023-04-03T19:01:24Z")
Recursive thread since 2004. ---
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 8:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-the-old-guys-out-there-i-mean-toons-over-10-years-old/395789/116 "2023-04-03T20:32:42Z")
> [@Oosel](#): > > it just sounds better than chars ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/2/b/c/2bcb5f342a50db4ed0c8f697be3e48392a8118e1.gif) ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/b/4bbe3e9fab471ac99b8211b0bd5249de47ee55ea.gif) ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/f/2/f21a3e6d45e3d790dcba7f61ef6f7098b1ddd369.gif) ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 8:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-the-old-guys-out-there-i-mean-toons-over-10-years-old/395789/117 "2023-04-04T08:08:43Z")
Yeah sorry bro, I stand by my original statement so I’m gonna have to disagree with you. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Paccino](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/el_paccino/32/371265_2.png) [@El\_Paccino](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/El_Paccino)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 9:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-the-old-guys-out-there-i-mean-toons-over-10-years-old/395789/118 "2023-04-04T09:24:47Z")
OH common man, merely reporting an interview with CCP that was done a week ago and letting you know that what was said. Not defending anyone or taking on anyone only reporting… boy oh boy… check the comments from players on there - you are most welcome to your opinion and so am I - it is afterall an opinion not fact. So when u done swapping ur sox (cause they definately on the wrong feet) beer? ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 10:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-the-old-guys-out-there-i-mean-toons-over-10-years-old/395789/119 "2023-04-04T10:20:50Z")
CCP is very good at presenting themselves as being Politically Correct, course what CCP says and does is two very different things… And our opinions don’t really matter… ---
**Author:** ![El\_Paccino](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/el_paccino/32/371265_2.png) [@El\_Paccino](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/El_Paccino)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 10:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-the-old-guys-out-there-i-mean-toons-over-10-years-old/395789/120 "2023-04-04T10:44:21Z")
As mentioned I dunno, not going into bashing anyone be it player or CCP. June patch was discussed and CSM feedback was mentioned - more than that I cannot say as I dunno. All I see is good progress in many areas - Others not so nice. Will players ever be happy - nope - it easier to be part of the problem than be part of the solution. Anyhow I gtg and thank u for ur tme and input. ---
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 11:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-the-old-guys-out-there-i-mean-toons-over-10-years-old/395789/121 "2023-04-04T11:06:11Z")
ccp says: [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/7/9/8/798ed4718f50170a7c6c5d53796033ab26f4d901.jpeg "Mo-Do - Super Gut") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8py5qLL7g08) ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 12:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-the-old-guys-out-there-i-mean-toons-over-10-years-old/395789/122 "2023-04-04T12:16:33Z")
What an irritating song, makes me want to gank a newbie. ---
**Author:** ![Kezrai\_Charzai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kezrai_charzai/32/394578_2.png) [@Kezrai\_Charzai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kezrai_Charzai)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 12:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-the-old-guys-out-there-i-mean-toons-over-10-years-old/395789/123 "2023-04-04T12:34:09Z")
> [@El\_Paccino](#): > > merely reporting an interview with CCP that was done a week ago and letting you know that what was said. Without bashing anyone, I’d recommend that with CCP, you pay attention to **actual delivered results** once they’re up and running, as opposed to what they _say_ in devblogs or interviews or news releases. If you’re impressed by something CCP has actually delivered, point it out. If you’re impressed by what CCP says they have coming “soon”, well you’ll find a lot more skepticism from anyone who’s played EVE longer than a year or two. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Paccino](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/el_paccino/32/371265_2.png) [@El\_Paccino](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/El_Paccino)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 1:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-the-old-guys-out-there-i-mean-toons-over-10-years-old/395789/124 "2023-04-04T13:28:26Z")
uh huh u done yet? ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 2:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-the-old-guys-out-there-i-mean-toons-over-10-years-old/395789/125 "2023-04-04T14:09:22Z")
> [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > pirates are **THE TRUE SCOURGE OF THE UNIVERSE** Especially the ones that spend their time looting ore and gas and trying to con everyone into believing it was ‘free’. Thank goodness there are brave civil defence volunteers ready to take them on in fleets of Catalysts and rid the universe of the evil pirates. It’s a thankless task…but someone has to do it. ---
**Author:** ![Oosel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/oosel/32/389219_2.png) [@Oosel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Oosel)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 3:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-the-old-guys-out-there-i-mean-toons-over-10-years-old/395789/126 "2023-04-04T15:48:27Z")
lol quality and on a more spooky note i only watched this episode 2 days ago ---
**Author:** ![Gretek\_Moergyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gretek_moergyn/32/379137_2.png) [@Gretek\_Moergyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gretek_Moergyn)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 7:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-the-old-guys-out-there-i-mean-toons-over-10-years-old/395789/127 "2023-04-04T19:31:10Z")
For me it has been more than 10 years. My attitude is the same as yours–relaxed and no commitment. I have found a great corp full of nice people, and now, Eve has become a good place to escape from the pressures of RL. Back in the day my favorite alternate reality was Asheron’s Call. But that game is gone, so now I am here. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-the-old-guys-out-there-i-mean-toons-over-10-years-old/395789.md?page=5) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-the-old-guys-out-there-i-mean-toons-over-10-years-old/395789.md?page=7)