# For two days i lost 2 Orcs in a safe zone, 100% GM intervention

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-two-days-i-lost-2-orcs-in-a-safe-zone-100-gm-intervention/253742>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [July 8, 2020, 6:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-two-days-i-lost-2-orcs-in-a-safe-zone-100-gm-intervention/253742 "2020-07-08T18:40:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2020, 9:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-two-days-i-lost-2-orcs-in-a-safe-zone-100-gm-intervention/253742/54 "2020-07-08T21:00:08Z")

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What an outrageous idea. 😃

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2020, 9:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-two-days-i-lost-2-orcs-in-a-safe-zone-100-gm-intervention/253742/55 "2020-07-08T21:01:22Z")

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![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/9/b/9b3114421c617985f6ad08174f688d1ab8cb4e18.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Buoytender\_Bob](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/buoytender_bob/32/374377_2.png) [@Buoytender\_Bob](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Buoytender_Bob)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2020, 9:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-two-days-i-lost-2-orcs-in-a-safe-zone-100-gm-intervention/253742/56 "2020-07-08T21:06:01Z")

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After 12+ years of EVE, I understand the errors he made in not scoping out the environment, plexing into a ship too early, fitting errors, inacurate targeting priority queues, and other errors. Obviously rhetorical questions are too complex for you, but I do understand you are relying on your understanding of a secondary language and nuances, so credit to you for having that ability.

Combined with the accusation of GM targeting, the whole initial post is full of inaccuracies, misconceptions, and self made errors in judgement. Understand it is a painful loss for him, but the information is all out there to easily find. Used to be people would spend hours researching a new aspect of EVE before undertaking. Now days, here’s a credit card and away we go.

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**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2020, 9:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-two-days-i-lost-2-orcs-in-a-safe-zone-100-gm-intervention/253742/57 "2020-07-08T21:07:38Z")

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> [@Xeux](#):
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> I like the GM intervention part the best.

To be fair, it’s a pretty reasonable theory. If you were a GM and encountered someone as obnoxious as the OP can you honestly say you’d resist the temptation to spawn some NPCs and gank them?

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2020, 9:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-two-days-i-lost-2-orcs-in-a-safe-zone-100-gm-intervention/253742/58 "2020-07-08T21:08:51Z")

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There was a GM Day last year. My impression was that most of these guys had never played the game before.

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**Author:** ![CowRocket\_Void](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cowrocket_void/32/189525_2.png) [@CowRocket\_Void](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CowRocket_Void)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2020, 9:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-two-days-i-lost-2-orcs-in-a-safe-zone-100-gm-intervention/253742/59 "2020-07-08T21:09:32Z")

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Oh, this is a good one. Bravo op 👍

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2020, 9:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-two-days-i-lost-2-orcs-in-a-safe-zone-100-gm-intervention/253742/60 "2020-07-08T21:14:51Z")

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He said it plain as day that he was pointed and that he could not kill them as they were being repped and you accuse me of this:

> [@Buoytender\_Bob](#):
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> Obviously rhetorical questions are too complex for you, but I do understand you are relying on your understanding of a secondary language and nuances, so credit to you for having that ability.

Which is so funny I have to laugh:

> [@Buoytender\_Bob](#):
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> KM didn’t show a FOB response fleet, just Kestrels for both kills. How long would it take for Kestrels to do 100k damage and why couldn’t you use your drones on them?

This is just plain wrong, and you throw in stupid insults at me to hide your failure to see what is front of your face.

> [@Mr\_Deemer](#):
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> and at the same time there are 2 ships that repair the ones I attack; and one ship that stop my warp

In his first post.

You sir are so keen to troll, that you just look stupid.

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**Author:** ![Brun\_Warbear](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brun_warbear/32/380353_2.png) [@Brun\_Warbear](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brun_Warbear)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2020, 9:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-two-days-i-lost-2-orcs-in-a-safe-zone-100-gm-intervention/253742/61 "2020-07-08T21:19:13Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> To the OP, I feel for you, it is hard, you need to check for FOB’s using the Agency

Or y’know. You literally just hit the v key once in a while.

> [@Mr\_Deemer](#):
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> The gank are made from a GM with only one reason. The guy who did this, know what he doing, that’s why the NPC gank did its job.

A GM had nothing to do with it. Forward Operating Bases are a long term and well understood game mechanic. They’re also totally avoidable.

You came to this game, knew nothing about it. Whaled yourself into an Orca. Spent two months afk mining and now you’re mad your ignorance got you dead. You’re also mad that repeating the same actions lead to the same consequences.

You didn’t even fit a tank on your Orca.

This is all on you man. When you were offered the knowledge you needed to not repeat your mistakes you doubled down on your ■■■■■■■■ and sprinkled in a little racism too.

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Deemer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_deemer/32/214157_2.png) [@Mr\_Deemer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Deemer)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2020, 9:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-two-days-i-lost-2-orcs-in-a-safe-zone-100-gm-intervention/253742/62 "2020-07-08T21:19:41Z")

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Yesterday the fleet was without repair ships. Yesterday my Drone range was 30 KM.

So yes after i lost my first Orca, i increase my fit with more shields resists on this Orca and i just did revenge. Without the Kestrels just becouse they fly on 35 km orbit.

Today my Drone range was 80km, like i said Heavy and Light Drones. And shield resists 75-80%.

For the 15 min fight i lost half of my 40 drones from the drone bay… without 1 kill.

Looks like these ganks are made from GMs specially from someone in my case agains me.

You can talk what you want, the result of the game shows the truth. The trolls here are you, not me… i mean most of you.

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**Author:** ![Brun\_Warbear](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brun_warbear/32/380353_2.png) [@Brun\_Warbear](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brun_Warbear)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2020, 9:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-two-days-i-lost-2-orcs-in-a-safe-zone-100-gm-intervention/253742/63 "2020-07-08T21:20:45Z")

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> [@Mr\_Deemer](#):
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> Looks like these ganks are made from GMs specially from someone in my case agains me.

You can keep saying it but you’re still super, hilariously, and completely wrong. If you learned about the game you’d know that.

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2020, 9:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-two-days-i-lost-2-orcs-in-a-safe-zone-100-gm-intervention/253742/64 "2020-07-08T21:20:48Z")

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Did you do something to anger the GMs?

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2020, 9:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-two-days-i-lost-2-orcs-in-a-safe-zone-100-gm-intervention/253742/65 "2020-07-08T21:20:55Z")

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What a bunch of trolltards, Eve is no longer a sandbox like how CCP keeps claiming it is. The OP is correct, CCP has been intervening with the game for quite a while now, constantly changing things which is slowly turning Eve into a scripted theme park.

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**Author:** ![Rekindle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rekindle/32/382332_2.png) [@Rekindle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rekindle)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2020, 9:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-two-days-i-lost-2-orcs-in-a-safe-zone-100-gm-intervention/253742/66 "2020-07-08T21:25:07Z")

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did he attack the mining npc rats? [https://zkillboard.com/kill/85467653/](https://zkillboard.com/kill/85467653/)

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Deemer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_deemer/32/214157_2.png) [@Mr\_Deemer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Deemer)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2020, 9:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-two-days-i-lost-2-orcs-in-a-safe-zone-100-gm-intervention/253742/67 "2020-07-08T21:26:07Z")

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Are you saying that you have information about the capabilities of an authorized person?

I am sure that i know much more than you for these two months… compared to what you knew about your first six months of play.

If you have information about what GM can or can’t do, share it. Otherwise, you just made another pointless reply.

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Deemer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_deemer/32/214157_2.png) [@Mr\_Deemer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Deemer)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2020, 9:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-two-days-i-lost-2-orcs-in-a-safe-zone-100-gm-intervention/253742/69 "2020-07-08T21:28:49Z")

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Why are you here, Hypocrisy?

If someone should leave that’s you.

Good bay

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**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2020, 9:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-two-days-i-lost-2-orcs-in-a-safe-zone-100-gm-intervention/253742/70 "2020-07-08T21:32:16Z")

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Yep, you’re the same guy.  
I wish I remembered your old name.

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**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2020, 9:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-two-days-i-lost-2-orcs-in-a-safe-zone-100-gm-intervention/253742/72 "2020-07-08T21:32:56Z")

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Where’s racism?  
Did I miss anything? ☹

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**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2020, 9:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-two-days-i-lost-2-orcs-in-a-safe-zone-100-gm-intervention/253742/73 "2020-07-08T21:33:53Z")

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> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#):
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> Where’s racism?

> [@Mr\_Deemer](#):
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> gyp\*y behavior

And OP _knows_ it’s a racist slur since they had to \* out one of the letters to get it through the word filter.

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2020, 9:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-two-days-i-lost-2-orcs-in-a-safe-zone-100-gm-intervention/253742/75 "2020-07-08T21:37:20Z")

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> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#):
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> Why are you still posting here? The GMs have made it very clear that they don’t like racist trash like you and told you to GTFO.

STFU, almost all of your replies is nothing but racist slurs and trash talk. How about you take your own advice and GTFO.

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**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2020, 9:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-two-days-i-lost-2-orcs-in-a-safe-zone-100-gm-intervention/253742/77 "2020-07-08T21:38:37Z")

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> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#):
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> STFU, almost all of your replies is nothing but racist slurs and trash talk.

You will either cite an example of me using a racist slur or you will STFU with your blatant lies.

Also, please keep in mind that your accusation here is getting dangerously close to a criminal act of libel.

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