# For you schmoes who intentionally leave Reilic and Data point's empty save Carbon junk **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [April 12, 2020, 11:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-you-schmoes-who-intentionally-leave-reilic-and-data-points-empty-save-carbon-junk/232068 "2020-04-12T23:38:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Rhapsody\_Skiptracer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rhapsody_skiptracer/32/193079_2.png) [@Rhapsody\_Skiptracer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rhapsody_Skiptracer)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2020, 11:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-you-schmoes-who-intentionally-leave-reilic-and-data-points-empty-save-carbon-junk/232068/1 "2020-04-12T23:38:45Z")
You do realize that when you clear those sites, they respawn in other areas of the region. But if you’re a dick, and leave 1 carbon in each site, they don’t respawn, and now you’re just performing a dick-move. With zero reason other than just being an asshat. In what world would you find that acceptable? Other than willingly admitting to be a dickhead? ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2020, 11:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-you-schmoes-who-intentionally-leave-reilic-and-data-points-empty-save-carbon-junk/232068/2 "2020-04-12T23:40:17Z")
> [@Rhapsody\_Skiptracer](#): > > In what world would you find that acceptable? Other than willingly admitting to be a dickhead? To see salty tears like this post. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Lumukanda\_Theleraese](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lumukanda_theleraese/32/432858_2.png) [@Lumukanda\_Theleraese](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lumukanda_Theleraese)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2020, 12:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-you-schmoes-who-intentionally-leave-reilic-and-data-points-empty-save-carbon-junk/232068/3 "2020-04-13T00:02:20Z")
Depends on the circumstances at the time. Majority of the time I’ll just fail them to clear them however sometimes I leave them as a tactic to either slow down the competition, cherry pick because I want to gtfo especially so if in a WH, or I don’t want to leave an immediate trail so to speak. ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2020, 12:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-you-schmoes-who-intentionally-leave-reilic-and-data-points-empty-save-carbon-junk/232068/4 "2020-04-13T00:45:50Z")
> [@Rhapsody\_Skiptracer](#): > > now you’re just performing a dick-move. With zero reason other than just being an asshat. Isnt that the status quo of New Eden? ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2020, 12:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-you-schmoes-who-intentionally-leave-reilic-and-data-points-empty-save-carbon-junk/232068/5 "2020-04-13T00:47:39Z")
Why would you want them to respawn? You want to lower the efficiency of your competition so that the fruits of your exploration maintain a high resale value. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2020, 3:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-you-schmoes-who-intentionally-leave-reilic-and-data-points-empty-save-carbon-junk/232068/6 "2020-04-13T03:22:26Z")
I Agree 100%. CCP should make the Containers immune to cargo scan, then players wouldn’t be able to blitz Hacking sites by cherry picking only the best and leaving all the rest. That little change would make a big difference, without the ability to see what is contained in the cans, players would have to Hack all the containers in order to get the good loot. ---
**Author:** ![AbuJana\_Ohu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abujana_ohu/32/282195_2.png) [@AbuJana\_Ohu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/AbuJana_Ohu)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2020, 7:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-you-schmoes-who-intentionally-leave-reilic-and-data-points-empty-save-carbon-junk/232068/7 "2020-04-13T07:15:10Z")
■■■■ … didn’t know that you can Cargo scan them …. learning every day something new. Thanks ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2020, 9:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-you-schmoes-who-intentionally-leave-reilic-and-data-points-empty-save-carbon-junk/232068/8 "2020-04-13T09:11:30Z")
> [@Rhapsody\_Skiptracer](#): > > You do realize that when you clear those sites, they respawn in other areas of the region. But if you’re a dick, and leave 1 carbon in each site, they don’t respawn, and now you’re just performing a dick-move. With zero reason other than just being an asshat. In what world would you find that acceptable? Other than willingly admitting to be a dickhead? Which region do you operate? I’ll just send over an alt of two to leave one unopend can in each site I’ll find. ---
**Author:** ![Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhalyd_lyehin/32/358574_2.png) [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhalyd_Lyehin)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2020, 9:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-you-schmoes-who-intentionally-leave-reilic-and-data-points-empty-save-carbon-junk/232068/9 "2020-04-13T09:13:42Z")
🔴 As much as I don’t like cherrypicking, I recently started doing it as well. Why? To make bot lives harder. I fully embrace the CCP way to deal with bots here: Make the experience of human players more frustrating to make it harder for bots to do their job. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2020, 9:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-you-schmoes-who-intentionally-leave-reilic-and-data-points-empty-save-carbon-junk/232068/10 "2020-04-13T09:40:03Z")
Except for the fact that bots can operate 24/7 and they don’t get frustrated. Even if all the sites they visit only have 1 can of the worst loot available, they can still make lot’s of ISK due to the vast amount that’s collected. Basically leaving one can in the site doesn’t do anything to help combat bots, all it does is make real players become disinterested in the game. ---
**Author:** ![Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhalyd_lyehin/32/358574_2.png) [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhalyd_Lyehin)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2020, 9:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-you-schmoes-who-intentionally-leave-reilic-and-data-points-empty-save-carbon-junk/232068/11 "2020-04-13T09:51:56Z")
🔴 > [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > Basically leaving one can in the site doesn’t do anything to help combat bots, all it does is make real players become disinterested in the game. So basically what CCP does. I am well aware of that but even if it means they have to spend 1 more minute in a system to scan the cherrypicked signature, it is a little something. Minimal effect with maximum frustration potential. 😇 ---
**Author:** ![Erik\_Doshu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erik_doshu/32/369845_2.png) [@Erik\_Doshu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Erik_Doshu)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2020, 10:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-you-schmoes-who-intentionally-leave-reilic-and-data-points-empty-save-carbon-junk/232068/12 "2020-04-13T10:35:50Z")
Who cares, “Exploration” is just another useless activity, now that Agency shows all the local sigs on a platter for you entitled kids to “explore”. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2020, 10:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-you-schmoes-who-intentionally-leave-reilic-and-data-points-empty-save-carbon-junk/232068/13 "2020-04-13T10:59:54Z")
> [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](#): > > > [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > > > Basically leaving one can in the site doesn’t do anything to help combat bots, all it does is make real players become disinterested in the game. > > So basically what CCP does. I am well aware of that but even if it means they have to spend 1 more minute in a system to scan the cherrypicked signature, it is a little something. Minimal effect with maximum frustration potential. 😇 Ok, so your actual intention is to frustrate players, not to help combat bots like you originally said here: > [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](#): > > I recently started doing it as well. Why? To make bot lives harder. Anyway, I can understand the reason for doing it, especially in an area with lot’s of competition. However since there’s a limited amount of sites that spawn within the constellation / region, by not completing the site so a new one can spawn, all you’re doing is reducing your own chances of getting more loot. ---
**Author:** ![Dravick\_Afterthought](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dravick_afterthought/32/282017_2.png) [@Dravick\_Afterthought](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dravick_Afterthought)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2020, 11:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-you-schmoes-who-intentionally-leave-reilic-and-data-points-empty-save-carbon-junk/232068/14 "2020-04-13T11:20:58Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > all you’re doing is reducing your own chances of getting more loot. Not if you’re about to log-off anyway… ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2020, 11:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-you-schmoes-who-intentionally-leave-reilic-and-data-points-empty-save-carbon-junk/232068/15 "2020-04-13T11:36:53Z")
Why should anyone help their competition by giving them more/new sites? ---
**Author:** ![Piotr\_Leusten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/piotr_leusten/32/169358_2.png) [@Piotr\_Leusten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Piotr_Leusten)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2020, 2:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-you-schmoes-who-intentionally-leave-reilic-and-data-points-empty-save-carbon-junk/232068/16 "2020-04-13T14:10:56Z")
I do that in one situation: when I’m doing exploration in low-sec. Say there are three scannable data sites in the system, I’ll leave a worthless can in each site I clear so that a PvPer looking to ambush explorers has less of a chance of finding the site I’m in at the moment. Otherwise, by the time I’m on the last data site, it’s the only data site in the system, and someone hunting me will be able to come straight to where I’m at. ---
**Author:** ![Klemm\_Fandango](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/klemm_fandango/32/301919_2.png) [@Klemm\_Fandango](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Klemm_Fandango)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2020, 2:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-you-schmoes-who-intentionally-leave-reilic-and-data-points-empty-save-carbon-junk/232068/17 "2020-04-13T14:32:42Z")
Whenever I’m exploring, I’m also explorer-hunting. I only run sites I feel aren’t likely to get traffic soon, and always quickly control-w ■■■■ cans to clear them. Not really to be nice to other players, but to cover evidence of my presence from would-be targets, or bigger hunters. ---
**Author:** ![Ms\_Steak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ms_steak/32/168834_2.png) [@Ms\_Steak](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ms_Steak)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2020, 5:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-you-schmoes-who-intentionally-leave-reilic-and-data-points-empty-save-carbon-junk/232068/18 "2020-04-13T17:29:13Z")
Site automagically despawns (in 2 hours iirc) if any of the cans get hacked. ---
**Author:** ![Haulie\_Berry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/haulie_berry/32/388021_2.png) [@Haulie\_Berry](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Haulie_Berry)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2020, 5:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-you-schmoes-who-intentionally-leave-reilic-and-data-points-empty-save-carbon-junk/232068/19 "2020-04-13T17:38:44Z")
Seems to be a very pointless, “REEEEE other people are doing something and I. DON’T. LIKE. IT.” rant. Some day you will learn that strangers, and especially ones in Eve, aren’t beholden to you, and mostly don’t have a care to spare about whether you’re successful, frustrated, or inconvenienced. On that day, you will become a reasonable facsimile of a functioning adult. ---
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2020, 7:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-you-schmoes-who-intentionally-leave-reilic-and-data-points-empty-save-carbon-junk/232068/20 "2020-04-13T19:55:55Z")
Couldn’t one cargoscan the containers themselves and thereby avoid the issue entirely? [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-you-schmoes-who-intentionally-leave-reilic-and-data-points-empty-save-carbon-junk/232068.md?page=2)