# Forsaken Fortress – Coming 26 May

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219>\
**Category:** Dev Blogs\
**Created:** [April 24, 2020, 4:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219 "2020-04-24T16:15:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Sullen\_Decimus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sullen_decimus/32/418756_2.png) [@Sullen\_Decimus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sullen_Decimus)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 8:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/228 "2020-04-24T20:21:32Z")

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where do you see this? Also, CCP will 100% not give you back assets that were dropped. So if you are not available right now, you still lose your stuff.

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**Author:** ![Algathas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/algathas/32/397229_2.png) [@Algathas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Algathas)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 8:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/229 "2020-04-24T20:22:15Z")

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> [@Kaabii](#):
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> it happened so quick that he/she hadnt any time to give anyone permissions to manage the fuel in a station

Guess what? The CEO has been warned through this dev blog and has a month to fix the issue before it goes live, and then has even more time based on how much fuel is in the structure.

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**Author:** ![Axhind](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/axhind/32/461932_2.png) [@Axhind](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Axhind)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 8:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/230 "2020-04-24T20:22:30Z")

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Structure itself dies. That’s what’s important. Means that someone has to build a new one in order to spam it.

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**Author:** ![Sullen\_Decimus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sullen_decimus/32/418756_2.png) [@Sullen\_Decimus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sullen_Decimus)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 8:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/231 "2020-04-24T20:22:37Z")

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That’s an interesting point, completely wrong though. If that was the case, there would be no reason anyone has destroyed a structure in the game at all up to this point outside of wormholes. Thankfully, there is a lot to prove many will 100% destroy structures with no loot beyond what the structure drops.

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 8:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/232 "2020-04-24T20:22:51Z")

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I would be OK with 2 weeks. Can CCP send out E=mails to warn players who might be on a long vacation?

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**Author:** ![TaVinci\_Ghasha](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tavinci_ghasha/32/200269_2.png) [@TaVinci\_Ghasha](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/TaVinci_Ghasha)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 8:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/233 "2020-04-24T20:24:49Z")

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Question - perhaps covered somewhere that i missed, if so I apologize… so… if a structure reaches abandoned status and someone ELSE (not the original builders) comes to this abandoned structure - can they power it up and have it become their structure? Like pirates taking over an abandoned colonial port? I think that would be awesome.

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 8:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/234 "2020-04-24T20:25:59Z")

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> [@Kilei\_Torsc](#):
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> > [@Kilei\_Torsc](#):
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> > “I would stop playing and take a break, but I would have to move my billions of ISK worth of assets out of my structures and that would be a nightmare…”
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> login as alpha, right-click citadel name in the assets list, send it all to asset safety.

Here.

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**Author:** ![Yuki\_Akiyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yuki_akiyo/32/198990_2.png) [@Yuki\_Akiyo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yuki_Akiyo)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 8:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/235 "2020-04-24T20:26:30Z")

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good change.  
but if i run once a week a service for 1h, do i still have Tethering and Asset Safety?

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**Author:** ![Algathas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/algathas/32/397229_2.png) [@Algathas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Algathas)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 8:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/236 "2020-04-24T20:27:17Z")

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> [@Sullen\_Decimus](#):
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> That’s an interesting point, completely wrong though. If that was the case, there would be no reason anyone has destroyed a structure

Some people like destroying structures. For the rest of us there is no point. I see structures all over that I know are low power and not used. I don’t bother attacking them because dealing with the timers, possibly way outside of my normal timezone for likely no reward is a waste of time. There are abandoned space trash structures all over. Many from dead alliances/corps. At least after this change there is no timer to wait on and the possibility of some loot for my time.

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**Author:** ![TaVinci\_Ghasha](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tavinci_ghasha/32/200269_2.png) [@TaVinci\_Ghasha](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/TaVinci_Ghasha)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 8:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/237 "2020-04-24T20:28:49Z")

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Having friends in service, I see your point. There should be some sort of arrangement for that OR a LOT more lead time than a month or so.

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 8:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/238 "2020-04-24T20:31:30Z")

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That could mean up to a year. I feel bad for those stuck with this situation, but I don’t think it can be helped.

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**Author:** ![TaVinci\_Ghasha](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tavinci_ghasha/32/200269_2.png) [@TaVinci\_Ghasha](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/TaVinci_Ghasha)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 8:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/239 "2020-04-24T20:34:10Z")

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But of course, that was a choice you made Lucas. I made the choice to stay in highsec with very occasional forays to low sec and nothing beyond that. To assume that everyone else should be in the same position you are because you are there is unfair, wouldn’t you say?

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**Author:** ![Foresaken1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foresaken1/32/351278_2.png) [@Foresaken1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foresaken1)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 8:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/240 "2020-04-24T20:38:09Z")

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Does this also apply to POS’s?

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**Author:** ![Circumstantial\_Evidence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/circumstantial_evidence/32/399551_2.png) [@Circumstantial\_Evidence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Circumstantial_Evidence)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 8:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/241 "2020-04-24T20:40:56Z")

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Its just the word _ABANDONED_ - it suggests a greater length of time than 7 days.

30 is far more reasonable, to fit the word “abandoned.”

“I haven’t seen that guy in a week - he must be on vacation.”  
“I haven’t seen that guy in a month - wonder if he quit EVE.”

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 8:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/242 "2020-04-24T20:44:53Z")

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I understand your point, but I think it could be abused. You would only have to fuel it once a month.

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**Author:** ![Robbert\_Smith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/robbert_smith/32/200263_2.png) [@Robbert\_Smith](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Robbert_Smith)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 8:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/243 "2020-04-24T20:44:56Z")

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> [@Foresaken1](#):
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> Does this also apply to POS’s?

How would this apply to POSes? Currently a POS that is unfueled has no reinforcement timer. Additionally, there is never any asset safety in a POS.

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**Author:** ![Faylee\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/faylee_freir/32/439750_2.png) [@Faylee\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Faylee_Freir)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 8:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/244 "2020-04-24T20:45:54Z")

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> [@Avio\_Yaken](#):
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> Any chance of having abandoned citadels as free targets in hisec? I.E, won’t require war decs to engage?

We’ve been having to spend ISK to clear structures ever since the mechanic came out. You’ll have to join the rest of us and use Wardecs!

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This is an incredible change! Hopefully this isn’t a one time event just to appease everyone with the structure spam. This needs to be a permanent game mechanic (although the permanent version could use some tweaking). Not going to lie, I’m very impressed with this one CCP!

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**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 8:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/245 "2020-04-24T20:50:13Z")

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> [@Faylee\_Freir](#):
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> This is an incredible change! Hopefully this isn’t a one time event just to appease everyone with the structure spam

Uh Faylee. Your wish is already granted. This isn’t an event.

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**Author:** ![Qia\_Kare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/qia_kare/32/279281_2.png) [@Qia\_Kare](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Qia_Kare)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 8:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/246 "2020-04-24T20:50:48Z")

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As the wording currently stands, yes, you could do this, but you would be spending 3 days worth of fuel to online a module so there is a lower limit of 3 days worth of fuel every 7 days to keep your structure providing those services.

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 8:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/247 "2020-04-24T20:57:26Z")

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So June 2nd should be the 1st day of flames if CCP sticks with the 7 day timer? 🔥

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