# Forsaken Fortress – Coming 26 May **URL:** \ **Category:** Dev Blogs\ **Created:** [April 24, 2020, 4:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219 "2020-04-24T16:15:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![Faylee\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/faylee_freir/32/439750_2.png) [@Faylee\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Faylee_Freir)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 9:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/249 "2020-04-24T21:02:04Z")
> [@Nevyn\_Auscent](#): > > Uh Faylee. Your wish is already granted. This isn’t an event. Yeah I see now. I was so excited reading this that I briefly saw, “update of Kicking Over Castles, from 10 December 2019” and assumed this would have an ending date. This is a great change! No more free tethering! Players have to actually think about where and why they put structures down and have to maintain them! > [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#): > > So June 2nd should be the 1st day of flames if CCP sticks with the 7 day timer? 🔥 Yes, CCP Aurora posted on Reddit that May 2nd is “D-Day” ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 9:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/250 "2020-04-24T21:06:49Z")
Woot! 🤪 Count me in. I gotta resub for this. Thank you CCP. It doesn’t fix everything, but it’s a good start. Edit; I was only unsubbed for 2 months, but it was like a tooth infection the whole time. 😭 ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 9:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/251 "2020-04-24T21:07:54Z")
This could end up being left with Hisec Corps having only rented office space inside NPC stations and a lot less structures. Maybe a slight hit to industrialists who manufacture the structures as the demand is lowered. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 9:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/252 "2020-04-24T21:13:31Z")
Would keeping the idea of hacking a structure on the back burner help? I still like the small chance of hacking one, but don’t mind waiting. ---
**Author:** ![Kock\_Leong\_Ng](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kock_leong_ng/32/193374_2.png) [@Kock\_Leong\_Ng](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kock_Leong_Ng)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 9:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/253 "2020-04-24T21:31:46Z")
Hi, Personally I have concerns about no asset safety. If I had commitments in real life and log in back a month later, and my structure got offline and destroyed and all my items in it lost due to no asset safety, I will surely quit the game forever. Although I am still new and have no structures yet ---
**Author:** ![Edge\_Ferracene](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/edge_ferracene/32/200280_2.png) [@Edge\_Ferracene](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Edge_Ferracene)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 9:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/254 "2020-04-24T21:35:40Z")
I suppose I am the dissenting opinion here. It is already something of a liability to use player owned structures for an independent player, as you to risk losing access to resources that are put into asset safety for a time and lose any stored clones. Now there will be even less incentive to use them. At least players should get warning mails or notifications that stations where they have assets enter the abandoned state, as we have no control over if a station is kept fueled up, so I foresee people avoiding their use. If you own structures this will hit your profits. ---
**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 9:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/255 "2020-04-24T21:36:42Z")
> [@Sophia\_Mileghere](#): > > Is a notification planned if the station falls into Low Power or Abandoned? > > I think that you should always maintain your structures, but there can always be circumstances that prevent this. > Therefore 7 days are not a bit short, because it is sometimes about billion values? 30 days could be more reasonable. Why not store extra fuel? You do realize that structure with 60K m3 of fuel and one service module runs for ~90days? 7 days is perfectly reasonable. ---
**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 9:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/256 "2020-04-24T21:38:31Z")
> [@Kilei\_Torsc](#): > > 1 week with no fuel consumption? Really? That’s going to get very expensive and very tedious very quickly. ‘very expensive’ - one service module consumes only ~200M worth of fuel in 3 months. Is far from expensive - even newbros can afford this. ---
**Author:** ![Elwha\_Lynx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elwha_lynx/32/246048_2.png) [@Elwha\_Lynx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elwha_Lynx)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 9:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/257 "2020-04-24T21:39:13Z")
This will be a good change. Perhaps missed an opportunity though to create a content driver by some chance to take over the abandoned structure–but don’t have a good suggestions how to do that. As it is this should in time cut back on the structure grinding in the off chance there is real territorial dispute (hehe). ---
**Author:** ![Emperor\_Pohjola](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/emperor_pohjola/32/279569_2.png) [@Emperor\_Pohjola](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Emperor_Pohjola)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 9:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/258 "2020-04-24T21:40:29Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > Expensive, maybe. Tedious, why? You can put a decade’s worth of fuel in it _right now_ . No poors ---
**Author:** ![Sgt\_Ocker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sgt_ocker/32/270881_2.png) [@Sgt\_Ocker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sgt_Ocker)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 9:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/259 "2020-04-24T21:41:32Z")
A whole month. Damned fuking generous. I’m stuck in the middle of outback Australia due to Covid 19 with patchy 3g internet and no computer. Seems my 15 and a half year Eve Career is coming to an abrupt end. 2020 the year I should have gone to live in a cave. Lost my caravan to bushfires, a month later it cost me $2,000 to fix my truck due to flooding, Covid 19 hit and i’m stuck on the outskirts of a small country town in the Northern Territory indefinately and now CCP decides my years of dedication to Eve is worthless. ---
**Author:** ![Aaaarrgg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aaaarrgg/32/395089_2.png) [@Aaaarrgg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aaaarrgg)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 9:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/260 "2020-04-24T21:42:47Z")
> [@CCP\_Aurora](#): > > We have just [released a dev blog](https://www.eveonline.com/article/q9ayo4/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may) outlining upcoming changes to structure vulnerability states! Please use this thread to discuss the update with your fellow pilots. 🙂 tell me more , I am interested , very interested. ---
**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 9:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/261 "2020-04-24T21:43:52Z")
> [@Stevens](#): > > It is perfectly clear CCP does not care about getting players to return to the game and they are all in on trying to bring new people back. The completely and utter disregard for any veteran player to ever return is sickening in this change. If some ‘veteran’ decided to go afk for months w/o even bothering to move assets to npc station… why would he assume his assets would be still there? You wouldn’t assume assets inside pos are there months after you have gone afk… ---
**Author:** ![Garth\_Barviainen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/garth_barviainen/32/394467_2.png) [@Garth\_Barviainen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Garth_Barviainen)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 9:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/262 "2020-04-24T21:44:34Z")
In general i like the abandonment mechanic for stations its long overdue but i have problems with the no player asset safety . yes lock corp hangers and modules at abandoned status and 50 % drop & loss im all for break the corp for failing to fuel but not so harsh for the average player 50% asset safety 25 drop 25 loss for a start gives something for every one or even 3rd s . also something not mentioned contracts will they now show the power setting of a station or will they get removed the instant a station is at abandoned as it will be impossible to get or put to safety you would need to fly to the player station before excepting them now to be safe ---
**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 9:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/263 "2020-04-24T21:46:54Z")
> [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](#): > > Turning it back on costs only 3 days, and if I don’t need a structure for 2 or 3 weeks because, for instance, I produced too much and need to sell stocks off first hmm… diversify? You never learned that diversification of stocks is a way to protect yourself from shocks? ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 9:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/264 "2020-04-24T21:47:32Z")
> [@Sgt\_Ocker](#): > > Seems my 15 and a half year Eve Career is coming to an abrupt end. Good riddance. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 9:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/265 "2020-04-24T21:49:33Z")
> [@Edge\_Ferracene](#): > > I suppose I am the dissenting opinion here. It is already something of a liability to use player owned structures for an **independent player** Guess what the idea behind citadels was. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 9:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/266 "2020-04-24T21:50:29Z")
> [@Kock\_Leong\_Ng](#): > > If I had commitments in real life and log in back a month later, and my structure got offline and destroyed and all my items in it lost due to no asset safety, **I will surely quit the game forever.** > > **Although I am still new and have no structures yet** FFS!! ---
**Author:** ![Lara\_Agnon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lara_agnon/32/377122_2.png) [@Lara\_Agnon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lara_Agnon)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 9:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/267 "2020-04-24T21:50:33Z")
because there is asset safety ---
**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 9:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/268 "2020-04-24T21:50:58Z")
> [@YellowRaven](#): > > so you want free 2billion site in your overiew? > looks like you dont understand that the only change is that now every structure will pay fuel or get in line for destruction ^^ > ccp is comming hard this year for isk sinks and this time they mean bussiness This one is not isk sink, but it is means of getting rid of stockpiles of stuff locked up in abandoned structures. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219.md?page=12) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219.md?page=14)