# Forsaken Fortress – Coming 26 May **URL:** \ **Category:** Dev Blogs\ **Created:** [April 24, 2020, 4:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219 "2020-04-24T16:15:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![Kock\_Leong\_Ng](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kock_leong_ng/32/193374_2.png) [@Kock\_Leong\_Ng](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kock_Leong_Ng)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 11:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/310 "2020-04-24T23:30:33Z")
If you have something happens in real life, will you still think about moving your items to npc stations. If you want to motivate players to attack the abandoned structure, another win win method is to still keep asset safety but give reclaim fees for asset safety to players who destroy the stations Please understand that this is a game and not a job. Please respect the time we have invested. Btw i had only spent less than 3 months playing this game. And at most lost my remaining 1 year subscription. But this is a good indicator whether i shall invest more time and money in this game ---
**Author:** ![ArmyOfMe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/armyofme/32/516023_2.png) [@ArmyOfMe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ArmyOfMe)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 11:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/311 "2020-04-24T23:31:00Z")
> [@Stevens](#): > > The completely and utter disregard for any veteran player to ever return is sickening in this change. Ummm ok? Care to elaborate on that? ---
**Author:** ![ArmyOfMe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/armyofme/32/516023_2.png) [@ArmyOfMe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ArmyOfMe)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 11:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/312 "2020-04-24T23:32:57Z")
> [@Stevens](#): > > If I get hit by a car and can’t login, I get the added benefit of losing everything in this game. And how do you think things are in wormholes? Yet somehow we survive. If having things stored in citadels scare you so much, there is alway asset safety for you 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Scaugh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scaugh/32/25051_2.png) [@Scaugh](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scaugh)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 11:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/313 "2020-04-24T23:33:09Z")
7 days after low power seems a bit quick. I’d prefer to see it extended a bit longer than 7 days. How much longer… I don’t know. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 11:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/314 "2020-04-24T23:36:08Z")
Fantastic change CCP. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 11:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/315 "2020-04-24T23:36:12Z")
For those who didn’t plan ahead when it comes to CCP in the age of chaos. I did. Sorry. I packed up my tents and packed everything in npc stations to wait out the storm. Now I want to unpack it because I was prepared. ---
**Author:** ![ArmyOfMe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/armyofme/32/516023_2.png) [@ArmyOfMe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ArmyOfMe)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 11:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/316 "2020-04-24T23:36:18Z")
> [@Scaugh](#): > > 7 days after low power seems a bit quick. > > I’d prefer to see it extended a bit longer than 7 days. > How much longer… I don’t know. Well, now everyone has a month or so to get ready and fuel them, so 7 days shouldnt be much of an issue anymore, seeing as you can fuel them for quite a long time ---
**Author:** ![James\_Baboli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/james_baboli/32/408702_2.png) [@James\_Baboli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/James_Baboli)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 11:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/317 "2020-04-24T23:38:51Z")
14 days. ---
**Author:** ![SoldMyChar\_ForISK](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/soldmychar_forisk/32/333890_2.png) [@SoldMyChar\_ForISK](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/SoldMyChar_ForISK)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 11:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/318 "2020-04-24T23:47:36Z")
doesnt really address problem or go far enough. there should be no asset safety anywhere at any time. a solo player in a BS should be able to take down any structure in one sitting. easily countered with defenders from the corp/alliance anchoring but if they cant be bothered to show up to defend it should be easily destroyed without all these timers. ---
**Author:** ![Brezzin\_Tor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brezzin_tor/32/191708_2.png) [@Brezzin\_Tor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brezzin_Tor)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 11:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/319 "2020-04-24T23:48:43Z")
Haven’t read all the way through. Kind of stranged out. Other threads, nullsec alliance/coalition players: “War is pointless, everything just has asset safety anyway.” Changes made that remove asset safety: “This is stupid, now I can’t just take a long break out in nullsec anymore and not care about whether my alliance holds or not.” I’m a little confused by why anyone thinks having a bunch of unpowered structures is actually good for the game, too. Like…if a place is valuable, and you want to have things at it…shouldn’t it be powered? Shouldn’t ‘in use’ things be actually ‘in use’? What’m I missing here? ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 11:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/320 "2020-04-24T23:50:17Z")
> [@Brezzin\_Tor](#): > > What’m I missing here? Nothing. Edit; If someone catches me with my bloomers down, I deserve it up the… ---
**Author:** ![Lou\_Lingg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lou_lingg/32/394606_2.png) [@Lou\_Lingg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lou_Lingg)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 11:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/321 "2020-04-24T23:54:23Z")
tempted to reply to this with a gif of david byrne in the giant suit but i feel that might be poor form! ---
**Author:** ![Ben\_Hatton](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ben_hatton/32/249610_2.png) [@Ben\_Hatton](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ben_Hatton)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2020, 12:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/322 "2020-04-25T00:02:48Z")
@CCP_Aurora I personally very much agree with these changes. However, I really do think it needs two tweaks. 1 - Residents of a station must be notified somehow, an in game notification mail would suffice 2 - 7 Days is too short, I think 30 is much more reasonable, especially if we are using the term abandoned. 7 days is more like a logistical error of not supplying fuel rather than abandoning your structure. Additionally, given that asset safety was a fundamental feature of structures on release, it is absolutely critical an email from CCP should be sent to all existing and post 2015 players letting them know of this change. Not all players on a break will be monitoring the official CCP channels, and it would give them a chance to log in as an alpha and move their most valuable things. As an industrialist (as much as people should be smarter and move their stuff before) I would be devastated and not likely return at all if say my BPO library ceased to exist. ---
**Author:** ![Agrikaan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/agrikaan/32/417416_2.png) [@Agrikaan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Agrikaan)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2020, 12:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/323 "2020-04-25T00:06:52Z")
I wonder if CCP understands how many structures that are actually in use, but low powered. As midpoints, forward operating bases that may seem activity for a few weeks, then not again for a month or three due to war or conflicts moving. So not “abandoned” at all, just used irregularly, as need come and go. Fueling would be less of an issue if it just wasn’t so expensive, especially for those structures not currently serving a function, but will again in the future. How about a really cheap mod with very low fuel requirement that only grants tethering and makes it online (or even low powered, just not abandoned)? And 7 days need to be extended to 30. God, 7 days is shorter than a vacation, or the flu or a deadline at work. But I guess the killboards need to be fed and the lazy PvP:ers get the voice. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2020, 12:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/324 "2020-04-25T00:08:01Z")
> [@Agrikaan](#): > > lazy PvP:ers get the voice. Lazy would not be fueling you station? ---
**Author:** ![Agrikaan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/agrikaan/32/417416_2.png) [@Agrikaan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Agrikaan)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/325 "2020-04-25T00:09:01Z")
No. Read again. Think before reply. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/326 "2020-04-25T00:09:38Z")
Try again lazy player. Edit; I take it back for someone your age. Sorry. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2020, 12:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/327 "2020-04-25T00:10:31Z")
> [@Brezzin\_Tor](#): > > What’m I missing here? Among other things, the fact that a fair number of the ‘Thank you CCP, this is a step in the right direction’ posts are from nullsec players. ---
**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2020, 12:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/328 "2020-04-25T00:11:11Z")
> [@QuakeGod](#): > > Looks like it’s time to start going system-to-system and scanning down and bookmarking all low power structures ahead of time… Especially raitarus with service modules fitted ^^ ---
**Author:** ![Ben\_Hatton](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ben_hatton/32/249610_2.png) [@Ben\_Hatton](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ben_Hatton)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2020, 12:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/329 "2020-04-25T00:16:40Z")
You could argue though that that was the deal when you signed up. A big concern is the change being made and its effects that on people who may not be ATK for the foreseeable future. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219.md?page=15) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219.md?page=17)