# Forsaken Fortress – Coming 26 May **URL:** \ **Category:** Dev Blogs\ **Created:** [April 24, 2020, 4:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219 "2020-04-24T16:15:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 26
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 1:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/511 "2020-04-26T13:20:38Z")
In a way, I wish there was a “ **grandfathered** ” clause to this new patch…While I have zero sympathy for people losing their stations (I kill them myself), losing all their stuff too is pretty harsh…especially for those that are currently out of the loop for whatever reason… ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 1:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/512 "2020-04-26T13:44:44Z")
> [@Syzygium](#): > > While they are at it: Make Mobile Depots “abandoned” after 24 or 48 or 72hrs. After that, no timer to kill them. Would help to get rid of this horrible Depot Spam in HS. Exactly, the Mobile Depot spam around gates and stations is definitely an issue that should be addressed. ---
**Author:** ![Raven\_Bloodline](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/raven_bloodline/32/158377_2.png) [@Raven\_Bloodline](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Raven_Bloodline)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 2:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/513 "2020-04-26T14:17:30Z")
CCp you lost your damn marbles totally ? 7 days wtf when i go on summer hollidays i be out for 4 weeks and no i dont have internet there. phones barley work there and then fuel cost is too high to online anything when not needed becuase its running on low power dont mean its abandoned. And secondly your remove the good ore from moon bases and you actually expect pepole to return your driving pepole away from the game not every thing is a bout low sec asnd null how your going to expect new players get isk ? and not every one wants to go to null right away if ever get a grip alredy stop the **Insanity** dammit ccp get a reality check before its too late ---
**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 2:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/514 "2020-04-26T14:18:15Z")
> [@twoflower\_Secret](#): > > I agree it’s a nice sink (for players and corporations with deep pockets). > > But it might obstruct corporation creation as corporate hangars are essential to sharing resources and usage of blueprints amongst members. Not really. You will just have to move your hangars to other stations than hub. ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 2:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/515 "2020-04-26T14:18:32Z")
Fuel the station or take it down…it’s not complicated… ---
**Author:** ![Raven\_Bloodline](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/raven_bloodline/32/158377_2.png) [@Raven\_Bloodline](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Raven_Bloodline)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 2:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/516 "2020-04-26T14:19:00Z")
its complicated with fuel prices and the onlining cost ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 2:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/517 "2020-04-26T14:19:39Z")
125M to 150M is not expensive…also, taking it down is free… ---
**Author:** ![Raven\_Bloodline](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/raven_bloodline/32/158377_2.png) [@Raven\_Bloodline](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Raven_Bloodline)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 2:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/518 "2020-04-26T14:24:50Z")
heh not every one has that to spend there is more than fuel stations to do … last time i boght fuel it cost 200 -300 mil and it was the cheapeast at that time thirdly why take it down if its not abandoned like players has not left game ? ---
**Author:** ![Elwha\_Lynx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elwha_lynx/32/246048_2.png) [@Elwha\_Lynx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elwha_Lynx)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 2:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/519 "2020-04-26T14:26:16Z")
> [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](#): > > In a way, I wish there was a “ **grandfathered** ” clause to this new patch… More like a mother clause. A good share of us remember no asset safety. ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 2:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/520 "2020-04-26T14:27:02Z")
Then switch to a cheaper module (refinery?)…if you can’t afford it then again, take her down… ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 2:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/521 "2020-04-26T14:28:13Z")
> [@Elwha\_Lynx](#): > > More like a mother clause. A good share of us remember no asset safety. I agree 100% with you for those that go “abandoned” after the patch…I’m just pointing out that including stations that are “abandoned” before the patch might be a bit too much… ---
**Author:** ![Raven\_Bloodline](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/raven_bloodline/32/158377_2.png) [@Raven\_Bloodline](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Raven_Bloodline)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 2:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/522 "2020-04-26T14:31:31Z")
sound like you dont have a station to fuel its a lot costing to fuel it specially when you dont need to refine anything with removing the good ore alot athanors going to stuggle some will be taken down some will leave the game becuase of resent changes ---
**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 2:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/523 "2020-04-26T14:36:25Z")
> [@Litsea\_Reticulata](#): > > This is sorely needed, after all weren’t the drifter invasions supposed to clean this junk up before they overloaded the cluster? Drifters affected only null sec. Real citadel spam is in hisec. > [@Litsea\_Reticulata](#): > > While a POCO isn’t a Citadel, why isn’t it a good time to talk about bringing them in line with everything else? POCO’s don’t eve need strontium in them like POS’s used to. They cost nothing and spew out a massive amount of passive income. POCO taxes and access is not controlled by ACL but by standings. Would be good thing to move poco access control to ACL. > [@Litsea\_Reticulata](#): > > In the area I used to live in 0.0 had some people who couldn’t be bothered to fuel their POS’s. One dropped 27 billion, it was sad to see so much stuff destroyed just because they were too lazy to bring in or manufacture blocks. And that was good. Is good it is coming back. > [@Litsea\_Reticulata](#): > > They were never profitable, it was always an ISK sink. Moon drills were and still are quite profitable… is just that people anchored at whatever moons and didn’t bother making sure moon also spews moon goo of value. > [@Litsea\_Reticulata](#): > > Haven’t used a citadel to store anything for more than a few days since they came out. Why not? Is not like it is lost… of course now there is risk of it actually being lost, but it is something one has to live with. Or use trusted citadels… ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 2:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/524 "2020-04-26T14:38:39Z")
> [@Raven\_Bloodline](#): > > sound like you dont have a station to fuel FFS…whether I have one or not is irrelevant. If you can do math then you will know I am not BS’ing you. A reprocessing facility runs you 720 fuel to turn on and 240 per day. That’s 6720 for the first 30 days…at the current fuel price in Jita of say 17K each that will run you 114M or 3.8M a day… > [@Raven\_Bloodline](#): > > some will leave the game becuase of resent changes GOOD! Less entitled space losers… ---
**Author:** ![Turen\_Skir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/turen_skir/32/220774_2.png) [@Turen\_Skir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Turen_Skir)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 2:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/525 "2020-04-26T14:39:02Z")
I like the idea about an NPC faction taking it over. Maybe after a set time period an NPC Faction moves in and the station becomes a D.E.D. Site or a Stronghold. Abandoned station size could determine difficulty, with the destruction of the station dropping some rare faction module or BPC. If you tied that together along with the hacking then I could see corps abandoning stations on purpose to create Pirate hot zones for a chance at a rare loot drop while still needing to defend it from another player/crop who wanted a new base. Maybe put a limit to the amount of stations an entity (player/corp/alliance) can have in a system to prevent mass abandonment abuse. ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 2:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/526 "2020-04-26T14:40:15Z")
> [@Turen\_Skir](#): > > I like the idea about an NPC faction EVE needs less NPCs, not more…if anything, let the Trigs/Rats blow them up… ---
**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 2:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/527 "2020-04-26T14:41:22Z")
> [@Raven\_Bloodline](#): > > fuel cost is too high TIL 60-70M/month is too expensive. Sounds like you shouldn’t have anchored your citadel in the first place. > [@Raven\_Bloodline](#): > > last time i boght fuel it cost 200 -300 mil Sounds like 90 days of fuel for single service module. > [@Raven\_Bloodline](#): > > sound like you dont have a station to fuel its a lot costing to fuel it specially when you dont need to refine anything with removing the good ore alot athanors going to stuggle some will be taken down > some will leave the game becuase of resent changes You sound like a farmer trash. ---
**Author:** ![Raven\_Bloodline](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/raven_bloodline/32/158377_2.png) [@Raven\_Bloodline](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Raven_Bloodline)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 2:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/528 "2020-04-26T14:43:23Z")
i know what the fuel prices are i buy fuel and i know what it cost cant manufacture that yet and yes i can do math for small corps this is going to be a death sentence not all but alot i know from my own sistuation you have no clue about ---
**Author:** ![Raven\_Bloodline](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/raven_bloodline/32/158377_2.png) [@Raven\_Bloodline](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Raven_Bloodline)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 2:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/529 "2020-04-26T14:46:33Z")
fine what ever i dont play this to amuse you so what every you think does not matter ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 2:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/530 "2020-04-26T14:47:13Z")
> [@Raven\_Bloodline](#): > > for small corps this is going to be a death sentence not all but alot Then take the station down if you/they are not going to be around for a month…it costs nothing! Such drama for absolutely no reason… > [@Raven\_Bloodline](#): > > you have no clue about Of course I don’t nor do I care…you have 3 options…deal with it and hopefully with less drama… [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219.md?page=25) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219.md?page=27)