# Forsaken Fortress – Coming 26 May **URL:** \ **Category:** Dev Blogs\ **Created:** [April 24, 2020, 4:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219 "2020-04-24T16:15:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 27
**Author:** ![Raven\_Bloodline](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/raven_bloodline/32/158377_2.png) [@Raven\_Bloodline](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Raven_Bloodline)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 2:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/531 "2020-04-26T14:48:20Z")
do you lnow you loose the rigs … and its a 7 day thing to do … ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 2:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/532 "2020-04-26T14:50:04Z")
…and you have a month at least to prepare…problem? ---
**Author:** ![Dravick\_Afterthought](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dravick_afterthought/32/282017_2.png) [@Dravick\_Afterthought](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dravick_Afterthought)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 3:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/533 "2020-04-26T15:27:34Z")
> [@Raven\_Bloodline](#): > > CCp you lost your damn marbles totally ? What we need is the ability to score each post by its ‘Rant Factor’, with prizes for the most ‘Rant Points’ in any given month 😝 ---
**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/534 "2020-04-26T15:34:36Z")
> [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > Just like all of you crybabies were wrong about the Surgical Strike patch nerfing shield resistances killing PvE as we know it, so too with you all be wrong about how this will kill the game. Hell, this is not even going to stop people from using citadels - just now one should be more careful with using some random structure owned by someone random to store EVERYTHING inside it. ---
**Author:** ![Aideron\_Audeles](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aideron_audeles/32/378799_2.png) [@Aideron\_Audeles](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aideron_Audeles)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 4:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/535 "2020-04-26T16:22:30Z")
You should add to this update, that when a structure goes into abandoned mode, and has been there for say a week it should be possible to claim or conquer it by some means/mechanic by someone other than the deployer/owner of the structure 🙂 Now that could make for some interesting stuff 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Nasar\_Vyron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nasar_vyron/32/264128_2.png) [@Nasar\_Vyron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nasar_Vyron)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 4:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/536 "2020-04-26T16:45:42Z")
> [@Litsea\_Reticulata](#): > > The counter to this is who is hostile, and who is a renter structure? Personally, punish structures that don’t fly the same flag as the TCU as hard as possible. I’m saying to do exactly this. It’ll reduce the effectiveness of some of the shenanigans that goes on during peace and wartime alike. > [@Litsea\_Reticulata](#): > > The old system was like that, subsystems on 0.0 stations could be individually targeted, just nobody ever bothered. I’ve been playing a very long time. That was around only temporarily at the start of entosis links. I’m suggesting doing something similar in that when these structures become vulnerable these spots appear and effectively denote “vulnerabilities” as well as the structure’s weapon hardpoints and tether projectors. Creating nodes that are on grid that create a chance for strategic decisions and create more gameplay options while on the battlefield (some may be hacking points rather than shot at for example). Meanwhile mixing back in some of the passive systems of old and as well as their strengths and weaknesses to give the defender a choice as well for how they would like to approach a future attack themselves. Passive are great for keeping away small groups in off timezones, but worthless in a large fight or vs a prepared group. ---
**Author:** ![Vora\_Sis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vora_sis/32/502990_2.png) [@Vora\_Sis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vora_Sis)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 4:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/537 "2020-04-26T16:59:46Z")
One thing this will do is potentially make it **less** risky for small corporations to put up structures as long as they can keep them powered. Since assets in a powered structure do not drop, I expect most of the “wardec to blow up your structure” attention will focus on abandoned structures since it’s potentially very profitable and much easier to knock them down. ---
**Author:** ![Tarmo\_theGreat](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tarmo_thegreat/32/200706_2.png) [@Tarmo\_theGreat](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tarmo_theGreat)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 6:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/538 "2020-04-26T18:49:12Z")
This is most retarded shinanigen in eve history. ---
**Author:** ![Andromeda\_Nephus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andromeda_nephus/32/200719_2.png) [@Andromeda\_Nephus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andromeda_Nephus)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 7:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/539 "2020-04-26T19:59:25Z")
CCP, I like this idea, but the asset safety part of it makes me not want to use open player owned stations like the big trading stations you see just outside of Jita and Amarr. If you have items sitting on these stations and fuel runs out will you be given an abandoned timer even if you don’t own the station? Some warning system so as a non station owner so I could get my stuff out in time. Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Aernir\_Ridley](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aernir_ridley/32/339667_2.png) [@Aernir\_Ridley](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aernir_Ridley)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 8:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/540 "2020-04-26T20:20:50Z")
Have you seen the fuel block usage of POSes? A citadel/EC/refinery with a bonused module uses less fuel per month than a small control tower, and 1/4 the fuel of a large tower. Unlike control towers there’s also no limit to the amount of fuel you need to put in, and you don’t need to refuel it after it’s been reinforced. It does cost 3 days of fuel to online a service module, but this can be done instantly and only needs to be done if the structure’s gotten down into it’s final timer. Control towers can only be fueled for 30 days at a time, need to be restronted after every reinforcement, and have a much more complicated process of fitting. Large control towers cost well over half a billion isk a month just to keep online. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 8:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/541 "2020-04-26T20:24:51Z")
As much as I cant wait for D-Day, if CCP wants to push it back some, that wouldn’t bother me. A couple of concerns seem legitimate and I’ve waited this long for something like this, I can wait a little longer. ---
**Author:** ![Sophos\_Mileghere](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sophos_mileghere/32/378803_2.png) [@Sophos\_Mileghere](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sophos_Mileghere)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 8:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/542 "2020-04-26T20:45:36Z")
Cannot see this mentioned @CCP_Aurora - will an abandoned structure in HighSec require a wardec to aggress the structure? ---
**Author:** ![Jerry\_Falcone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jerry_falcone/32/167073_2.png) [@Jerry\_Falcone](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jerry_Falcone)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 8:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/543 "2020-04-26T20:50:13Z")
It’s assumed so, but id rather see no wardec ---
**Author:** ![Sophos\_Mileghere](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sophos_mileghere/32/378803_2.png) [@Sophos\_Mileghere](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sophos_Mileghere)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 8:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/544 "2020-04-26T20:53:15Z")
Same 100% - would be a dumb mechanic to have to wardec ---
**Author:** ![Faylee\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/faylee_freir/32/439750_2.png) [@Faylee\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Faylee_Freir)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 9:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/545 "2020-04-26T21:08:39Z")
> [@Sophos\_Mileghere](#): > > Cannot see this mentioned @CCP_Aurora - will an abandoned structure in HighSec require a wardec to aggress the structure? Yes why wouldn’t it? > [@Jerry\_Falcone](#): > > It’s assumed so, but id rather see no wardec > [@Sophos\_Mileghere](#): > > Same 100% - would be a dumb mechanic to have to wardec Why? We’ve been having to use Wardecs to remove structures since it’s been a thing. Why are you entitled to not have to wardec? This way you have a little risk. You go war eligible to try and snag a piñata and someone can in return Wardec or assist against you. Is this not fair? Isn’t it so ■■■■■■■ ironic how everyone wanted wars tied to structures before and now that CCP gives the playerbase a reason to want to bash structures in Highsec theres moaning about having to Wardec to take a structure down. Do you realize how stupid you sound? ---
**Author:** ![Sophos\_Mileghere](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sophos_mileghere/32/378803_2.png) [@Sophos\_Mileghere](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sophos_Mileghere)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 9:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/546 "2020-04-26T21:12:00Z")
Another one of those guys… wow. Its always been this way so nothing can change… and you ask how stupid I sound? What do you think the purpose of an abandoned structure mechanic actually is? Sometimes its worth thinking before replying and confirming little understanding of purpose ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 9:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/547 "2020-04-26T21:18:19Z")
> [@Sophos\_Mileghere](#): > > Another one of those guys… Somebody still owns it. Even if they introduce hacking in the future. "How do you take ownership of abandoned property? To acquire **abandoned property** , first find out who owns the **property** by checking your county’s **property** tax records. Then, reach out to the owner of the **property** and make them an offer. Just make sure you thoroughly research the title of the **property** to find out how much money is owed on it." So get over it, you have to WD the owner. Glad I cant do this in RL! 🤪 ---
**Author:** ![Sophos\_Mileghere](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sophos_mileghere/32/378803_2.png) [@Sophos\_Mileghere](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sophos_Mileghere)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 9:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/548 "2020-04-26T21:19:51Z")
The very definition of the word ‘abandoned’ is having been deserted or left. Either a bad choice of wording by CCP or by the definition, it should be a free for all in my opinion ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 9:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/549 "2020-04-26T21:22:39Z")
As I pointed out, this is EVE, not rl. Keep crying everyone and they will turn it off like Blackout. Not! 😀 ---
**Author:** ![Faylee\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/faylee_freir/32/439750_2.png) [@Faylee\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Faylee_Freir)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 9:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/550 "2020-04-26T21:24:54Z")
> [@Sophos\_Mileghere](#): > > Another one of those guys… wow. Its always been this way so nothing can change… and you ask how stupid I sound? > > What do you think the purpose of an abandoned structure mechanic actually is? Sometimes its worth thinking before replying and confirming little understanding of purpose Present a good argument for why it should require a Wardec and I won’t think you’re an idiot. To me you probably someone hiding in a war immune corp that wants to now suddenly play with the things we have to pay for. Go away. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219.md?page=26) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219.md?page=28)