# Forsaken Fortress – Coming 26 May **URL:** \ **Category:** Dev Blogs\ **Created:** [April 24, 2020, 4:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219 "2020-04-24T16:15:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 29
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 3:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/571 "2020-04-27T03:46:19Z")
> [@Herzog\_Wolfhammer](#): > > But if someone gets a structure that they cannot defend, would that not be good opportunity for content? It would be no more content than just blowing up the abandoned structure in the first place. While also watching the structure market vanish for industrialists from all the recycled structures. So no, still a bad idea. ---
**Author:** ![Zappity](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zappity/32/502632_2.png) [@Zappity](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zappity)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 3:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/572 "2020-04-27T03:58:25Z")
Do we know what the ownership state of the cargo containers that drop from structures in high sec will be? Owned by structure owner or free for all? This could be a lucrative opportunity for new players of they manage to get the timing right. ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 4:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/573 "2020-04-27T04:06:36Z")
It’ll probably be the exact same as how it works in Wormholes right now. The items will belong to whoever held them in their hangars at the time the structure goes pop. ---
**Author:** ![Wanda\_Fayne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wanda_fayne/32/377654_2.png) [@Wanda\_Fayne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wanda_Fayne)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 4:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/574 "2020-04-27T04:39:42Z")
7 days is a pretty short time in Eve. ---
**Author:** ![Ms\_Steak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ms_steak/32/168834_2.png) [@Ms\_Steak](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ms_Steak)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 5:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/575 "2020-04-27T05:15:34Z")
> [@triplleboy](#): > > BS change, cause lot of Astra_ **hus** _ are used without modules active or fuel needed. Exactly the reason why this change is happening - no more tethering abuse for you (and bots) on low-powered structures for free. Fuel them up from time to time or HTFU and STFU. Also check the image in the OP - slogan might give you some insights. ---
**Author:** ![XDQhz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xdqhz/32/168762_2.png) [@XDQhz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/XDQhz)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 8:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/576 "2020-04-27T08:07:58Z")
The change asset safety is ridiculous. Basically for nullsec if you can’t check every location you have asset in every week, you are ■■■■■■. Congratulations, you get a new part-time job, EVE. Have such high level of dedication requirement for line members in nullsec is ridiculous. ---
**Author:** ![Kira\_Hhallas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kira_hhallas/32/401600_2.png) [@Kira\_Hhallas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kira_Hhallas)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 8:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/577 "2020-04-27T08:49:30Z")
+10 ^10000 for the Change of the asset safety ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ # (x^2 + y^2 – 1)^3 = x^2 y^3 ---
**Author:** ![Gergoran\_Moussou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gergoran_moussou/32/381607_2.png) [@Gergoran\_Moussou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gergoran_Moussou)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 8:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/578 "2020-04-27T08:57:45Z")
Don’t be overdramatic. If your stuff in any competent alliance’s infrastructure, however small, your stuff is safe. ---
**Author:** ![Drago\_Shouna](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drago_shouna/32/350651_2.png) [@Drago\_Shouna](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Drago_Shouna)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 10:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/579 "2020-04-27T10:09:32Z")
> [@Aernir\_Ridley](#): > > Control towers can only be fueled for 30 days at a time, need to be restronted after every reinforcement, and have a much more complicated process of fitting. Large control towers cost well over half a billion isk a month just to keep online. If you use a POS full time, I never did, I just onlined it for an hour as and when I needed it. Using it that way there’s no comparison. ---
**Author:** ![Ysonoko\_Lelexandrian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ysonoko_lelexandrian/32/188953_2.png) [@Ysonoko\_Lelexandrian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ysonoko_Lelexandrian)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 10:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/580 "2020-04-27T10:45:44Z")
Glad I sold all my athanors. Also glad I stopped playing this game. Guess we’ll see how it all plays out sooner or later. ---
**Author:** ![Sho\_Riagl\_Khardula](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sho_riagl_khardula/32/292422_2.png) [@Sho\_Riagl\_Khardula](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sho_Riagl_Khardula)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 11:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/581 "2020-04-27T11:03:11Z")
> [@Faylee\_Freir](#): > > > [@Sophos\_Mileghere](#): > > > > Cannot see this mentioned @CCP_Aurora - will an abandoned structure in HighSec require a wardec to aggress the structure? > > Yes why wouldn’t it? > > > [@Jerry\_Falcone](#): > > > > It’s assumed so, but id rather see no wardec > > > [@Sophos\_Mileghere](#): > > > > Same 100% - would be a dumb mechanic to have to wardec > > Why? …You go war eligible to try and snag a piñata and someone can in return Wardec or assist against you. Is this not fair? > > Isn’t it so ■■■■■■■ ironic how everyone wanted wars tied to structures before and now that CCP gives the playerbase a reason to want to bash structures in Highsec theres moaning about having to Wardec to take a structure down. Do you realize how stupid you sound? I think that it’s a stretch, if not absurd, to claim that _everyone_ wanted wars tied to structures. A majority? Possibly. But everyone? No. Of course not. (Maybe I’m guilty of playing semantics, but accuracy is important and sweeping statements like that [edit: yours] are, well, almost always nonfactual, if not simply emotive in basis). Even if someone did once hold such an opinion, they have a right to change their mind. That doesn’t necessarily make them stupid. It _may_, in fact, make them more considered about their position - which is the _exact opposite_ of stupidity. Just an observation, not an argument. My stupidity however is something I occasionally wear with gay abandon, as hereinabove for example, where I said that I’d rather see a free-for-all on abandoned structures in **hisec** - and with _ **no** _ loot drops. Why? Well, on the first point, ‘because random new pilot dude inclusion’ (but also because I feel like an entitled freetard this week), and on the second, if a structure is abandoned there’s a good chance it’ll not be defended in any numbers, if at all. So one could argue that it’ll be far easier to loot that possible piñata. In which case, less risk, equal reward. Doesn’t that fly contrary to the ‘greater risk, greater reward’ mantra?[1] 😁 [1] Of course, I _may_ only argue for that position if I was in a contrary mood and I’m really not certain what mood I find myself in today, so just offer it as another (possibly) simple-minded observation. 🙀 ---
**Author:** ![Piotr\_Leusten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/piotr_leusten/32/169358_2.png) [@Piotr\_Leusten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Piotr_Leusten)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 2:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/582 "2020-04-27T14:16:16Z")
I rather imagine CCP prefers structures blowing up to simply being passed around. ---
**Author:** ![XDQhz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xdqhz/32/168762_2.png) [@XDQhz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/XDQhz)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 3:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/583 "2020-04-27T15:07:09Z")
I don’t know where your confident came from. Corporates and alliances will move, will break apart, will disband. In the past if you didn’t show up in the transition period, you can take a haircut and sell to new owner of the station or use asset safety and move on, now you lost every thing. ---
**Author:** ![XDQhz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xdqhz/32/168762_2.png) [@XDQhz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/XDQhz)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 3:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/584 "2020-04-27T15:52:16Z")
Not every one is coporate / aliance CEO ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_Ronuken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/steve_ronuken/32/373894_2.png) [@Steve\_Ronuken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Steve_Ronuken)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 4:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/585 "2020-04-27T16:09:25Z")
Yes, it’s required. No other mechanics changes, past those listed. ---
**Author:** ![Sophos\_Mileghere](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sophos_mileghere/32/378803_2.png) [@Sophos\_Mileghere](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sophos_Mileghere)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 5:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/586 "2020-04-27T17:05:02Z")
Thanks for the confirmation @Steve_Ronuken ---
**Author:** ![Gergoran\_Moussou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gergoran_moussou/32/381607_2.png) [@Gergoran\_Moussou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gergoran_Moussou)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/587 "2020-04-27T18:53:23Z")
> [@XDQhz](#): > > I don’t know where your confident came from. Corporates and alliances will move, will break apart, will disband. In the past if you didn’t show up in the transition period, you can take a haircut and sell to new owner of the station or use asset safety and move on, now you lost every thing. And fuel is cheap enough that there’s no reason not to keep it fueled up until the point that it’s either destroyed or unanchored. Asset safety will still apply in nearly all places where people in Null might have their stuff except for situations of extreme incompetence. ---
**Author:** ![Andre\_Vauban](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andre_vauban/32/170796_2.png) [@Andre\_Vauban](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andre_Vauban)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 7:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/588 "2020-04-27T19:35:46Z")
Yes, they will notify players but it means players cannot ever go on vacation or step away from the game for more than 7-10 days. Otherwise there is a risk you lose all your assets. SO you must either never step away from the game, never store assets in Upwells, or move all your crap to NPC stations before a vacation and then move it back after a vacation. ---
**Author:** ![Qia\_Kare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/qia_kare/32/279281_2.png) [@Qia\_Kare](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Qia_Kare)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 8:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/589 "2020-04-27T20:06:30Z")
You could use structures owned by people you trust to keep it fueled while you’re away. This is how I handle it. I get to know folks, I take a shine to some, and I pay them tax to borrow their services. It might surprise some that these people treat me very well, and grant any reasonable request I may make. Were I to ask, I am certain they would inform me if they intend to fuel a structure for the duration of a vacation. ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 10:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/590 "2020-04-27T22:38:34Z")
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