# Forsaken Fortress – Coming 26 May **URL:** \ **Category:** Dev Blogs\ **Created:** [April 24, 2020, 4:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219 "2020-04-24T16:15:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Peter\_Danklage](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/peter_danklage/32/188528_2.png) [@Peter\_Danklage](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Peter_Danklage)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 6:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/41 "2020-04-24T18:07:19Z")
This is the announcement. ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 6:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/42 "2020-04-24T18:07:25Z")
It’s about damn time. This is exactly what I wanted them to do. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Danklage](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/peter_danklage/32/188528_2.png) [@Peter\_Danklage](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Peter_Danklage)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 6:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/43 "2020-04-24T18:08:04Z")
There is still much more work to do to remove some timers from full power citadels to promote fights. In terms of long term game health that will be much more important. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 6:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/44 "2020-04-24T18:08:09Z")
and now you’ve got something to talk about on the Meat Show! ---
**Author:** ![Aernir\_Ridley](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aernir_ridley/32/339667_2.png) [@Aernir\_Ridley](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aernir_Ridley)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 6:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/45 "2020-04-24T18:08:46Z")
I absolutely love this change, but I do want to make one suggestion: Exempt faction fortizars that haven’t been unanchored from this change. Just imagine how many trillions of ISK across tens of thousands of players is in some of these structures… now imagine if their owning entities decided to let them go abandoned just to get at that loot. Most of those assets would be from people who haven’t played in a helluva long time, the exact people for which asset safety was made. ---
**Author:** ![Bargealta\_McSpacebuxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bargealta_mcspacebuxx/32/409641_2.png) [@Bargealta\_McSpacebuxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bargealta_McSpacebuxx)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 6:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/46 "2020-04-24T18:10:36Z")
Been wanting this change almost verbatim, but I think there should still be asset safety for players that, say, haven’t logged in for 90+ days or something, or at least players that haven’t logged in since before this change was announced. ---
**Author:** ![Algathas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/algathas/32/397229_2.png) [@Algathas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Algathas)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 6:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/47 "2020-04-24T18:13:14Z")
Excellent! Time to clean up space trash. More incentive to keep structures you actually use online and less incentive to spam them. Nice that the cleanup crew can get a potential reward for killing them as well. ---
**Author:** ![Diarmait\_Hannigan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diarmait_hannigan/32/278544_2.png) [@Diarmait\_Hannigan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diarmait_Hannigan)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 6:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/48 "2020-04-24T18:13:27Z")
i would love to see what would happen if for whatever reason a keep ran outta fuel for a week and someone just goes “welp this shits mine now” ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 6:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/49 "2020-04-24T18:14:07Z")
Oh golly good. / nope, changed my view. I am sort of upset now about this change. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 6:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/50 "2020-04-24T18:14:19Z")
That could be pretty funny. I’ll have to ask Tuzy if we can do with one of ours. ---
**Author:** ![Colonel\_Santiago](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/colonel_santiago/32/429118_2.png) [@Colonel\_Santiago](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Colonel_Santiago)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 6:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/52 "2020-04-24T18:14:42Z")
Good. ---
**Author:** ![Sophia\_Mileghere](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sophia_mileghere/32/381201_2.png) [@Sophia\_Mileghere](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sophia_Mileghere)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 6:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/53 "2020-04-24T18:15:26Z")
@CCP_Aurora Is a notification planned if the station falls into Low Power or Abandoned? I think that you should always maintain your structures, but there can always be circumstances that prevent this. Therefore 7 days are not a bit short, because it is sometimes about billion values? 30 days could be more reasonable. ---
**Author:** ![Kilei\_Torsc](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kilei_torsc/32/200248_2.png) [@Kilei\_Torsc](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kilei_Torsc)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 6:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/54 "2020-04-24T18:15:34Z")
1 week with no fuel consumption? Really? That’s going to get very expensive and very tedious very quickly. I LOVE the idea of an abandoned state, but only after 1 week? Why not closer to 1 month, yaknow, actually abandoned? ---
**Author:** ![Diarmait\_Hannigan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diarmait_hannigan/32/278544_2.png) [@Diarmait\_Hannigan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diarmait_Hannigan)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/55 "2020-04-24T18:17:37Z")
30 days would be a better time frame for a “fully abandoned” state, where like, basically the whole damn structure is free for the taking, everything in it, and the structure itself could be taken by whoever ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 6:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/56 "2020-04-24T18:18:48Z")
> [@Kilei\_Torsc](#): > > 1 week with no fuel consumption? Really? That’s going to get very expensive and very tedious very quickly. Expensive, maybe. Tedious, why? You can put a decade’s worth of fuel in it _right now_. **ALSO** Idea that just came up on one of the discords: Structure _stealing_. Find an abandoned structure, use some kind of hacking system (similar to the relic/data sites, but with an entosis link? I dunno) to commandeer it. Fuel it up, and nobody can snipe it away from you. Leave it abandoned, and it can be stolen and re-stolen. \>.\> C’mon. Tell me stealing peoples’ structures wouldn’t be fun. ---
**Author:** ![Rock\_Archiriu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rock_archiriu/32/200246_2.png) [@Rock\_Archiriu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rock_Archiriu)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 6:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/57 "2020-04-24T18:19:58Z")
All Good, on a sidenote though, when does this happen to PoS’s ? There must be data suffice to show, that any tower (or structure) has not been fueled and in use for - let’s say - 6 months, and therefore are Un-anchoring for free pickup to any passer bys? THAT would leave alot to pick up for free, and keep assets in game? Just my 2 cents. o7 ---
**Author:** ![Diarmait\_Hannigan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diarmait_hannigan/32/278544_2.png) [@Diarmait\_Hannigan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diarmait_Hannigan)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 6:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/58 "2020-04-24T18:20:32Z")
> [@Diarmait\_Hannigan](#): > > Personally I think it would be cool if you could hack into abandoned structures and transfer ownership via several hacking sessions, not sure what that would look like in practice tho yeah it would be pretty cool, or like bringing a structure back from the dead, glad to see im not the only one who wants this ---
**Author:** ![Aernir\_Ridley](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aernir_ridley/32/339667_2.png) [@Aernir\_Ridley](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aernir_Ridley)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 6:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/59 "2020-04-24T18:20:33Z")
Honestly compared to the cost and logistics involved in keeping POS Towers up and running, Upwell Structures are a cakewalk in terms of management. I’m of the opinion that if you can’t keep your structures fueled for a whole week, you either have too many structures or shouldn’t own structures to begin with. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 6:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/60 "2020-04-24T18:20:52Z")
I thought this was about Jita Moon 4 ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 6:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/61 "2020-04-24T18:21:06Z")
It would have been extra memes if after a structure enters Abandoned phase, another timer starts where an Abandoned structure (after 30 days) turns into an NPC structure that spawns ♦NPC rats like a Forward Operating Base. And to prevent it from getting farmed or abused, they drop no loot and no salvage. They just get taken over by local Pirate NPCs and spawn dangerous rats. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219.md?page=4)