# Forsaken Fortress – Coming 26 May **URL:** \ **Category:** Dev Blogs\ **Created:** [April 24, 2020, 4:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219 "2020-04-24T16:15:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 42
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2020, 5:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/831 "2020-05-21T17:12:44Z")
> [@Zuri\_Sae\_Kouyama](#): > > so why should they be much harder to take down? So an object in a fixed place that can’t log off is harder to take down than a mobile structure which can log off & fit a cloak & jump drive and gate? Hmmmm… ---
**Author:** ![Ocean\_Ormand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ocean_ormand/32/206896_2.png) [@Ocean\_Ormand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ocean_Ormand)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 1:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/832 "2020-05-22T01:09:35Z")
> [@Brigitte\_Schmidt](#): > > So what’s the takeaway? > > - CCP can’t be trusted with any new feature they develop anymore. It just feels like the players who took the break from the game got jebaited. > > And I see this as an issue. Not only they have shown that the CCP can’t be trusted with whatever they say and/or promise. But now you can’t even trust them on base game mechanics. If you don’t see that as an issue, I feel sorry for you. > > Anyway … to all of you participating in this event: have fun. Just to add to this - Eve continually needs players. One source of “new” players is former players who have left the game. CCP continually markets to these folks hoping that new content will draw them back in - the thinking is, if they liked the game before maybe they will like it again. And of course its probably easier to market to folk who have already shown an interest in the game - after all there is always a steady stream of former players coming back to play. Now after this update, what is CCP’s game plan to attract former players back into the game? CCP: “Come back to the game and see all the new stuff. Oh and btw all your stuff has been destroyed - even though we promised that we would keep it.” Former player: “…” ---
**Author:** ![Daoden](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daoden/32/271841_2.png) [@Daoden](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daoden)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 1:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/833 "2020-05-22T01:21:09Z")
They already take very little time and they are taking away the reinforcement timer for abandoned. If you decide to engage a structure you should not be able to kill or reinforce so quick that no one can form up to attack you, fleets being stuck in space bashing is content and should stay the way it is for DPS caps. ---
**Author:** ![JaKar\_Fazt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jakar_fazt/32/204645_2.png) [@JaKar\_Fazt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JaKar_Fazt)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 3:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/834 "2020-05-22T03:35:56Z")
Am I understanding correctly? I can go on a week long vacation and if someone in my alliance forgets to fuel the keepstar I can come back to my titan and supercarrier gone? ---
**Author:** ![Wanda\_Fayne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wanda_fayne/32/377654_2.png) [@Wanda\_Fayne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wanda_Fayne)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 3:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/835 "2020-05-22T03:38:47Z")
Keep your pilot in the ship and it won’t be lost. Otherwise, yes. ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 5:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/836 "2020-05-22T05:53:37Z")
> [@JaKar\_Fazt](#): > > Am I understanding correctly? I can go on a week long vacation and if someone in my alliance forgets to fuel the keepstar I can come back to my titan and supercarrier gone? Yes as per above But you could fuel it before you leave and then not worry. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 7:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/837 "2020-05-22T07:10:19Z")
I simply cannot say “good” enough GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD ---
**Author:** ![Firewire\_Mayaki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/firewire_mayaki/32/185785_2.png) [@Firewire\_Mayaki](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Firewire_Mayaki)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 10:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/838 "2020-05-22T10:49:27Z")
add a button to eve portal to evac all assets in citadel that charactor have? ---
**Author:** ![CCP\_Aurora](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_aurora/32/394780_2.png) [@CCP\_Aurora](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Aurora)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 1:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/839 "2020-05-22T13:31:39Z")
> [@Wanda\_Fayne](#): > > What will happen to items or ships that are in a pending contract from the abandoned structure upon destruction? This would include courier contracts and expired contracts. Are they lost or will they drop as well? Technically the items are not in personal or corp hangars. This should be handled just like it is currently in wormhole space. The contract is canceled and the items will get sent back to hangar to be dropped. ---
**Author:** ![Gosti\_Kahanid](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gosti_kahanid/32/359905_2.png) [@Gosti\_Kahanid](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gosti_Kahanid)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 3:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/840 "2020-05-22T15:00:25Z")
The station still goes to low powered for a week when fuel runs out, but then, yes ---
**Author:** ![Gergoran\_Moussou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gergoran_moussou/32/381607_2.png) [@Gergoran\_Moussou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gergoran_Moussou)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 6:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/841 "2020-05-22T18:55:43Z")
> [@JaKar\_Fazt](#): > > Am I understanding correctly? I can go on a week long vacation and if someone in my alliance forgets to fuel the keepstar I can come back to my titan and supercarrier gone? If your alliance is capable of defending a Keepstar, your alliance probably isn’t incompetent enough to let this happen. ---
**Author:** ![JaKar\_Fazt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jakar_fazt/32/204645_2.png) [@JaKar\_Fazt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JaKar_Fazt)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 8:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/842 "2020-05-22T20:31:15Z")
> If your alliance is capable of defending a Keepstar, your alliance probably isn’t incompetent enough to let this happen. My alliance specifically has lost our space in the past because someone forgot to pay a sov bill or click a button, don’t give us too much credit haha! ---
**Author:** ![Mu\_ad\_Diib](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mu_ad_diib/32/515564_2.png) [@Mu\_ad\_Diib](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mu_ad_Diib)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2020, 5:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/843 "2020-05-24T17:23:37Z")
I’ve read the FAQ and chatted to various people about this online and I just want to double-check that my understanding is correct on this stuff, please. If you have stuff stored in a player-owned structure and it becomes vulnerable due to low fuel of because it is flagged as abandoned, you get a notification via Eve mail that it might be at risk and the option to move stuff into asset safety. This option is available up until it explodes. Am I right? ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2020, 4:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/844 "2020-05-25T04:04:35Z")
> [@Mu\_ad\_Diib](#): > > flagged as abandoned, you get a notification via Eve mail that it might be at risk Source? Not seen that in a dev blog or otherwise from CCP ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2020, 4:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/845 "2020-05-25T04:10:32Z")
He is asking if what he stated is correct. ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2020, 4:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/846 "2020-05-25T04:11:30Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > He is asking if what he stated is correct > [@Mu\_ad\_Diib](#): > > I’ve read the FAQ and chatted to various people about this online Clearly he has a source for this information. Hence why I asked. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2020, 4:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/847 "2020-05-25T04:13:41Z")
Good gawd man, try reading it correctly and if you’re going to post a quote, try posting the entire quote: > [@Mu\_ad\_Diib](#): > > I’ve read the FAQ and chatted to various people about this online **and I just want to double-check that my understanding is correct on this stuff, please**. In other words, he’s asking for verification if it’s true or not. ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2020, 4:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/848 "2020-05-25T04:14:21Z")
Go do what Nicolai says and let him answer for himself rather than vomiting. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2020, 4:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/849 "2020-05-25T04:15:06Z")
Same to you and more of it. EDIT: Actually make that double for you. ---
**Author:** ![Cyzlaki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cyzlaki/32/218658_2.png) [@Cyzlaki](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cyzlaki)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2020, 6:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/850 "2020-05-25T06:16:50Z")
Seems to make sense now. But when we were sold on Citadels being OUR stations, a lot of players made these our homes. Yes you can say it’s foolish now in hindsight. This change will make most players go back to NPC stations in a big way. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219.md?page=41) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219.md?page=43)