# Forsaken Fortress – Coming 26 May **URL:** \ **Category:** Dev Blogs\ **Created:** [April 24, 2020, 4:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219 "2020-04-24T16:15:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/102 "2020-04-24T18:35:12Z")
> [@Stevens](#): > > A sudden life change for any variety of reasons prevents moving my assets. Then you have greater problems than a video game. > [@Kilei\_Torsc](#): > > I think you are underestimating the number of players in High/Low/Null who operate out of small corps or even who are running their own solo-corp Then all of these people have 30 days to figure out what they’re gonna do. 🙂 If they’re not even paying attention, then they weren’t even active enough to begin with to warrant caring about. ---
**Author:** ![Stevens](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stevens/32/186556_2.png) [@Stevens](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Stevens)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 6:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/103 "2020-04-24T18:36:02Z")
> [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > > [@Stevens](#): > > > > A sudden life change for any variety of reasons prevents moving my assets. > > Then you have greater problems than a video game. Yes for those 6-12 months I have bigger problems. Wouldn’t it be great if during say a recovery after a major accident I could go back to a game I played. Nope now I have to start over. ---
**Author:** ![YellowRaven](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yellowraven/32/198185_2.png) [@YellowRaven](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/YellowRaven)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 6:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/104 "2020-04-24T18:36:56Z")
so you want free 2billion site in your overiew? looks like you dont understand that the only change is that now every structure will pay fuel or get in line for destruction ^^ ccp is comming hard this year for isk sinks and this time they mean bussiness ---
**Author:** ![Kilei\_Torsc](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kilei_torsc/32/200248_2.png) [@Kilei\_Torsc](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kilei_Torsc)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 6:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/105 "2020-04-24T18:37:09Z")
> Then all of these people have 30 days to figure out what they’re gonna do. 🙂 If they’re not even paying attention, then they weren’t even active enough to begin with to warrant caring about. That’s incredibly naive and you’re straight-up ignoring what is essentially an enormous burden on a lot of players. Again, I am all about an abandoned state, love it. But 1 week is too short. ---
**Author:** ![Niriam\_DoT](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/niriam_dot/32/283318_2.png) [@Niriam\_DoT](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Niriam_DoT)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 6:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/106 "2020-04-24T18:38:22Z")
Why is this even a concern for high\low inhabitants? There is a damnload of stations to keep your belongings on if you are afraid to lose those ---
**Author:** ![Aernir\_Ridley](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aernir_ridley/32/339667_2.png) [@Aernir\_Ridley](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aernir_Ridley)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/107 "2020-04-24T18:39:03Z")
I referenced earlier how incredibly easy it is to keep upwell structures high power. There’s no limit on the amount of fuel you can put in there, and the cost is minuscule compared to what POSes used to cost. That 7 day timer doesn’t start until the structure is out of fuel, giving people plenty of time to plan ahead. ---
**Author:** ![YellowRaven](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yellowraven/32/198185_2.png) [@YellowRaven](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/YellowRaven)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/108 "2020-04-24T18:39:07Z")
i am happy to see ccp this time means bussiness in isk sinks, after all summer is a harvest season ^^ ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Danklage](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/peter_danklage/32/188528_2.png) [@Peter\_Danklage](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Peter_Danklage)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/109 "2020-04-24T18:39:55Z")
Will un-anchoring cause loot drops? ---
**Author:** ![Bargealta\_McSpacebuxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bargealta_mcspacebuxx/32/409641_2.png) [@Bargealta\_McSpacebuxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bargealta_McSpacebuxx)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 6:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/110 "2020-04-24T18:40:41Z")
I’m really looking forward to the highsec freeport scam structures that exist just to bait people into putting their stuff inside and then yanking the fuel and unanchoring to steal all of the AFK players’ stuff. ---
**Author:** ![YellowRaven](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yellowraven/32/198185_2.png) [@YellowRaven](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/YellowRaven)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 6:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/111 "2020-04-24T18:40:49Z")
it is one week every time. you online it for a short session then again next week. ---
**Author:** ![Kilei\_Torsc](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kilei_torsc/32/200248_2.png) [@Kilei\_Torsc](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kilei_Torsc)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 6:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/112 "2020-04-24T18:41:23Z")
> Why is this even a concern for high\low inhabitants? There is a damnload of stations to keep your belongings on if you are afraid to lose those Because alot of players in those areas use the refineries and engineering structures for benefits that exceed what is available at NPC stations. And now maintaining them is going to be a second job. Especially if anything unexpected happens IRL. And no it’s not a “you have bigger problems than a video game” - it’s a multi-year built-up hobby and is becoming very-easily destroyed. CCP added in these citadels and structures to make it an option for players to “build their dreams” and now they are making them difficult to use the way players want them to. ---
**Author:** ![Alesis\_Wicked](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alesis_wicked/32/311064_2.png) [@Alesis\_Wicked](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alesis_Wicked)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 6:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/113 "2020-04-24T18:41:32Z")
for all those people saying “now I cant take a break without moving my ■■■■” well, that’s kinda youre fault for dropping a citadel solo, groups can have people afk and people still playing that will keep the lights on. if your too small to ensure somebody is online to fuel stuff, don’t drop stations, simple. corp level assets are there for corps, not solo players. ---
**Author:** ![Joia\_Crenca](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/joia_crenca/32/291897_2.png) [@Joia\_Crenca](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Joia_Crenca)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 6:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/114 "2020-04-24T18:41:56Z")
I wonder if there would be a coding problem with allowing players to board or hack an abandoned structure and take ownership? I know someone mentioned the RMT abuse possibility, but there are likely ways to detect if that is happening. It wouldn’t have to be a reason to not introduce game features. ---
**Author:** ![YellowRaven](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yellowraven/32/198185_2.png) [@YellowRaven](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/YellowRaven)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 6:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/115 "2020-04-24T18:42:09Z")
unanchoring takes 7 days and is visible for everybody.this could have interesting pvp scenarios ^^ ---
**Author:** ![Aernir\_Ridley](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aernir_ridley/32/339667_2.png) [@Aernir\_Ridley](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aernir_Ridley)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 6:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/116 "2020-04-24T18:42:17Z")
The full quote is “Build Your Dreams, Wreck Their Dreams” ---
**Author:** ![Ms\_Steak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ms_steak/32/168834_2.png) [@Ms\_Steak](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ms_Steak)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/117 "2020-04-24T18:43:20Z")
> [@Stevens](#): > > Nope now I have to start over. If you use a structure and keep fuel stocked (for months ahead) - there shouldnt be any problem. “Start over” may only happen if you are in a 1-man corp and keep all the eggs in one faulty basket (aka [ab]use low powered citadels) and i fail to see the problem. ---
**Author:** ![Kilei\_Torsc](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kilei_torsc/32/200248_2.png) [@Kilei\_Torsc](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kilei_Torsc)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/118 "2020-04-24T18:43:29Z")
> The full quote is “Build Your Dreams, Wreck Their Dreams” Yes but now it’s not the players wrecking their dreams, it’s CCP haha ---
**Author:** ![Aernir\_Ridley](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aernir_ridley/32/339667_2.png) [@Aernir\_Ridley](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aernir_Ridley)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 6:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/119 "2020-04-24T18:44:09Z")
The players are still doing the Wrecking, CCP is just finally giving them the tools to do it. ---
**Author:** ![YellowRaven](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yellowraven/32/198185_2.png) [@YellowRaven](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/YellowRaven)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 6:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/120 "2020-04-24T18:44:21Z")
this is not a mobile depot … ---
**Author:** ![MyLoudVoice](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/myloudvoice/32/167265_2.png) [@MyLoudVoice](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MyLoudVoice)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 6:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219/121 "2020-04-24T18:44:46Z")
Nothing wrong with a cleanup system. Even good. 👍 But aren’t you once again staring bit too much on Null and it’s well organized alliances? 👀 In high sec there are many very small corps, even 1 men corps, that have a structure. Some of them only online the structures when required (for example to refine the ore collected in the month). Saves them fuel (at a slightly higher risk of course of being war targetted) But even if you are trying to keep them operational, its always possible that the guy/girl that needs to refuel it falls out due to a broken PC which need to be replaced (which can take a while) or a severely broken leg (which puts you in the hospital for 3 weeks) or … . Can you really call something abandoned after 7 days, when there are not even massive spiderwebs in it? 🕸 🕸 🕸 7 days is for small operations a very short time. What’s the fun in a game that just gives you extra stress for no decent reason. If the point is to clean up structures, you might as well have a decent grace period. Call something abandoned after 3 months.! And if you really want to diversify depending on the zone : Null : 7 days; Low + Worm : 1 month; High : 3 months [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219.md?page=5) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219.md?page=7)