# Found an awesome anti-gank tactic: Bump gate scouts with 500MN maller for hours afk!

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**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [February 4, 2022, 6:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/found-an-awesome-anti-gank-tactic-bump-gate-scouts-with-500mn-maller-for-hours-afk/348543 "2022-02-04T18:03:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![Saladinae](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/saladinae/32/415712_2.png) [@Saladinae](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Saladinae)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2022, 6:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/found-an-awesome-anti-gank-tactic-bump-gate-scouts-with-500mn-maller-for-hours-afk/348543/1 "2022-02-04T18:03:45Z")

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Get in 500MN maller

2 large p-acid compact batteries

3 tech 1 mark compact reactor control unit

3 tech intertial stabs

Use “Keep at Range 500” to perma bump their scanner alts on gates while slingshoting into and through them ad naeusm.

Fit is cap stable with cap stable with 500MN Cold Cas MN

It aint worth ganking.

You can do this for hours while afk.

Seeing that it takes them more than a half hour to warp off and come back (to break keep at range), I’ve also discovered that most of these scanner alts are bots.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2022, 6:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/found-an-awesome-anti-gank-tactic-bump-gate-scouts-with-500mn-maller-for-hours-afk/348543/2 "2022-02-04T18:07:58Z")

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What if they orbit the gate?

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**Author:** ![Saladinae](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/saladinae/32/415712_2.png) [@Saladinae](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Saladinae)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2022, 6:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/found-an-awesome-anti-gank-tactic-bump-gate-scouts-with-500mn-maller-for-hours-afk/348543/3 "2022-02-04T18:08:47Z")

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Then steer manually and don’t do it afk.

It’s fun!

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2022, 6:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/found-an-awesome-anti-gank-tactic-bump-gate-scouts-with-500mn-maller-for-hours-afk/348543/4 "2022-02-04T18:11:03Z")

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Wouldn’t that require exceptional aim and luck?

Sounds like a lack of balance to me. If ganker gate scouts are able to be AFK, then anti-ganker gate scout bumpers should be allowed to be AFK too. This means that the ability to orbit should be removed for anyone engaging in scouting gates for gankers.

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**Author:** ![Saladinae](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/saladinae/32/415712_2.png) [@Saladinae](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Saladinae)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2022, 6:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/found-an-awesome-anti-gank-tactic-bump-gate-scouts-with-500mn-maller-for-hours-afk/348543/5 "2022-02-04T18:11:47Z")

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No. The orbit remains the same. Bots aren’t going to re route orbits.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2022, 6:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/found-an-awesome-anti-gank-tactic-bump-gate-scouts-with-500mn-maller-for-hours-afk/348543/6 "2022-02-04T18:12:53Z")

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I understand, but trying to hit a small, fast frigate orbiting a gate with a ship that has a comparatively low agility (due to MWD) is almost impossible. Ganker gate scouts should be forced to sit still.

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**Author:** ![Saladinae](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/saladinae/32/415712_2.png) [@Saladinae](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Saladinae)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2022, 6:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/found-an-awesome-anti-gank-tactic-bump-gate-scouts-with-500mn-maller-for-hours-afk/348543/7 "2022-02-04T18:22:33Z")

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I put a bookmark on the orbit route then time then approach with manual speed throttle. Approach from opposite direction of rotation (opposite chirality).

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**Author:** ![Dark\_Lord\_Trump](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_lord_trump/32/411482_2.png) [@Dark\_Lord\_Trump](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Lord_Trump)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2022, 6:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/found-an-awesome-anti-gank-tactic-bump-gate-scouts-with-500mn-maller-for-hours-afk/348543/8 "2022-02-04T18:52:50Z")

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What good is a scout that’s AFK? An AFK scout can’t cargo scan and the best he can do otherwise is share his screen.

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2022, 6:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/found-an-awesome-anti-gank-tactic-bump-gate-scouts-with-500mn-maller-for-hours-afk/348543/9 "2022-02-04T18:58:01Z")

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> [@Saladinae](#):
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> I’ve also discovered that most of these scanner alts are bots.

Hmm? (I had to copy that.)

How did you work that out?

If it is true I hope you reported them? 🍿

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**Author:** ![Hazen\_Koraka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hazen_koraka/32/395218_2.png) [@Hazen\_Koraka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hazen_Koraka)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2022, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/found-an-awesome-anti-gank-tactic-bump-gate-scouts-with-500mn-maller-for-hours-afk/348543/10 "2022-02-04T19:10:07Z")

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hmm? 🤖 🍿

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2022, 7:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/found-an-awesome-anti-gank-tactic-bump-gate-scouts-with-500mn-maller-for-hours-afk/348543/11 "2022-02-04T19:29:58Z")

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Good bait.

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**Author:** ![Faylee\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/faylee_freir/32/439750_2.png) [@Faylee\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Faylee_Freir)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2022, 9:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/found-an-awesome-anti-gank-tactic-bump-gate-scouts-with-500mn-maller-for-hours-afk/348543/12 "2022-02-04T21:10:33Z")

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> [@Saladinae](#):
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> No. The orbit remains the same.

This is false. Your orbit distance stays the same but your path along that orbit changes.

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**Author:** ![Saladinae](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/saladinae/32/415712_2.png) [@Saladinae](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Saladinae)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2022, 2:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/found-an-awesome-anti-gank-tactic-bump-gate-scouts-with-500mn-maller-for-hours-afk/348543/13 "2022-02-05T02:54:08Z")

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Yes then you rebump.

Then send through an empty hauler and watch them gank it.

It finally worked!

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**Author:** ![Saladinae](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/saladinae/32/415712_2.png) [@Saladinae](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Saladinae)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2022, 2:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/found-an-awesome-anti-gank-tactic-bump-gate-scouts-with-500mn-maller-for-hours-afk/348543/14 "2022-02-05T02:56:08Z")

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You’re talking to the god of bot detection, how you think I made 6.7 billion robbing bots in fountain?

> [@Fountain gets their first kill on Cad Bane's Celestis](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fountain-gets-their-first-kill-on-cad-banes-celestis/347982/7):
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> Literally zero ratting in fountain except near delve entrance and INIT’s home base, one celestis, one sacrilege, one rifter, shuts down an entire region lol. Now I’m cloaky camping them in Arazu to force them to spread back out. 1: Triple stab/hyperstial rifter to scout all the systems and bookmark them in time order. 2: Celestis to steal 3: Anti-Ishtar Sacriledge for force projection on the lone/double ishtars that push my celestis off. This poor Cerebus+pod had to sacrifice himself to sa…

I know they are targeting and carog scanning. because i couldn’t cloak in hauler in 0.1 seconds.

I know they didnt’ realize for over a half hour that I bumped them off the gate, I then brought a hauler next to it, and couldn’t cloak again, even though I was 100+ km off gate.

That’s a bot.

Come to think of it, it’s hard to imagine someone sitting on a gate in a griffon for 12 hours a day scanning and reporting cargo without being a bot!? Right!

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2022, 3:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/found-an-awesome-anti-gank-tactic-bump-gate-scouts-with-500mn-maller-for-hours-afk/348543/15 "2022-02-05T03:01:01Z")

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I run 150 scanner griffon accounts, and I am active at my keyboard monitoring each one of my accounts. I am truly OUTRAGED at the accusation of botting, and I will have you know that when you engage in your DESPICABLE bumping act I choose to ignore you and PRETEND to be a bot so that you don’t realize how alert and active I truly am.

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**Author:** ![Jordan\_Kerns](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jordan_kerns/32/465999_2.png) [@Jordan\_Kerns](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jordan_Kerns)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2022, 4:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/found-an-awesome-anti-gank-tactic-bump-gate-scouts-with-500mn-maller-for-hours-afk/348543/16 "2022-02-05T04:34:59Z")

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Wait aren’t the anti gankers the same folk that were crying about bumping in the past?

So bumping is now OK?

I propose - give it some time and the anti gankers will approve of ganking.

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2022, 4:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/found-an-awesome-anti-gank-tactic-bump-gate-scouts-with-500mn-maller-for-hours-afk/348543/17 "2022-02-05T04:52:29Z")

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Anti ganking is just a smokescreen to hide the gankers’ looting alts.

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**Author:** ![Saladinae](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/saladinae/32/415712_2.png) [@Saladinae](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Saladinae)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2022, 7:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/found-an-awesome-anti-gank-tactic-bump-gate-scouts-with-500mn-maller-for-hours-afk/348543/18 "2022-02-05T07:32:47Z")

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All Hail Queen @Aiko Danuja

I would like to build 100 catalysts for you, from the Fountain ESS money!

Let me know if you want the free contract!

Tell me the fittings

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**Author:** ![Saladinae](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/saladinae/32/415712_2.png) [@Saladinae](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Saladinae)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2022, 7:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/found-an-awesome-anti-gank-tactic-bump-gate-scouts-with-500mn-maller-for-hours-afk/348543/19 "2022-02-05T07:33:20Z")

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Bumping has always been ok. Just the miners and aspirants that hate it.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2022, 8:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/found-an-awesome-anti-gank-tactic-bump-gate-scouts-with-500mn-maller-for-hours-afk/348543/20 "2022-02-05T08:22:15Z")

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> [@Saladinae](#):
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> Let me know if you want the free contract!

Of course I do.

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