# Foundation – New Quadrant starts soon!

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/foundation-new-quadrant-starts-soon/309027>\
**Category:** Announcements\
**Tags:** official\
**Created:** [May 3, 2021, 3:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/foundation-new-quadrant-starts-soon/309027 "2021-05-03T15:00:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2021, 9:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/foundation-new-quadrant-starts-soon/309027/145 "2021-05-05T21:37:02Z")

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BTW, just to highlight what I mean by that:

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/b/7/eb7880451f35b5e851eda9e80f1004cf2155f120.png)

Same basic numbers as March.

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/6/3/e635e727210d7ffa82d7468d8a3aaf7dee89a2ec.png)

The difference? The M2-XFE slaughter makes it obvious how little is happening everywhere else.

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2021, 11:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/foundation-new-quadrant-starts-soon/309027/146 "2021-05-06T11:01:11Z")

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Caldari is Senior Executive Director Akimaka Saraki of the Wiyrkomi Corporation. Found it on Reddit.

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**Author:** ![Morgana\_Tsukiyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/morgana_tsukiyo/32/385507_2.png) [@Morgana\_Tsukiyo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Morgana_Tsukiyo)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2021, 3:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/foundation-new-quadrant-starts-soon/309027/147 "2021-05-06T15:08:51Z")

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Akimaka Saraki shows up as State War Academy, and with a beard on the chin

[https://evewho.com/character/2118576600](https://evewho.com/character/2118576600)

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2021, 3:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/foundation-new-quadrant-starts-soon/309027/148 "2021-05-06T15:49:43Z")

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In game is correct. The site is not correct. But the small beard is actually not correct in both cases.

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**Author:** ![Khlaa\_Sor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/khlaa_sor/32/434528_2.png) [@Khlaa\_Sor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Khlaa_Sor)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2021, 4:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/foundation-new-quadrant-starts-soon/309027/149 "2021-05-06T16:43:49Z")

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> [@Arrendis](#):
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> The difference? The M2-XFE slaughter makes it obvious how little is happening everywhere else.

Yes, exactly. The **extraordinarily** high death toll of that M2-XFE event has vastly dwarfed everything else happening elsewhere. Hence what we see. And still there are molehills of normal happening spread nearly all over Null. In contrast to the still Jove waters, again.

For the same very reason they include two sheets for total market trade value - one with Forge (Jita) and the other without.

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**Author:** ![Morgana\_Tsukiyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/morgana_tsukiyo/32/385507_2.png) [@Morgana\_Tsukiyo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Morgana_Tsukiyo)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2021, 5:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/foundation-new-quadrant-starts-soon/309027/150 "2021-05-06T17:23:41Z")

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Thanks

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**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2021, 6:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/foundation-new-quadrant-starts-soon/309027/151 "2021-05-06T18:07:50Z")

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> [@Khlaa\_Sor](#):
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> And still there are molehills of normal happening spread nearly all over Null

Except that normal as the maths says is a couple of cruisers a day. Hardly what one would call busy.

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2021, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/foundation-new-quadrant-starts-soon/309027/152 "2021-05-06T19:09:54Z")

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Yes, but as @Nevyn_Auscent points out, that ‘normal’ is… _nothing_.

You’re talking about systems that can individually support a few hundred active players, supporting… 1. Maybe. Part time. That’s not a situation where we need to expand things. We do not need more sprawl.

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**Author:** ![Khlaa\_Sor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/khlaa_sor/32/434528_2.png) [@Khlaa\_Sor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Khlaa_Sor)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 9:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/foundation-new-quadrant-starts-soon/309027/153 "2021-05-07T09:03:31Z")

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> [@Nevyn\_Auscent](#):
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> Hardly what one would call busy

Neither lifeless as death. Especially account taken of the fact that the math we’ve been referring to doesn’t cover exploration activities at all, and those were about the lowest scores, not mean values.

> [@Arrendis](#):
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> We do not need more sprawl

Needs differ. Covering a wider spectrum will hardly hurt anyone. Busier systems can be found nearly everywhere, just look for the knobs if not spires - will be well above the minimal levels we were considering as examples

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**Author:** ![Hans\_Devin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hans_devin/32/373511_2.png) [@Hans\_Devin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hans_Devin)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2021, 11:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/foundation-new-quadrant-starts-soon/309027/154 "2021-05-11T11:13:11Z")

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> **[Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)**

I declare you winner of this thread.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2021, 4:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/foundation-new-quadrant-starts-soon/309027/155 "2021-05-11T16:44:09Z")

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Tyvm 🙂

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2021, 7:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/foundation-new-quadrant-starts-soon/309027/156 "2021-05-11T19:05:34Z")

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> [@Khlaa\_Sor](#):
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> Covering a wider spectrum will hardly hurt anyone.

Yes, it legitimately will. The more the players get spread out, the less they interact. The less they interact—based directly on CCP’s public statements over a number of FanFests—the less they _keep playing_, and the problem snowballs.

Yes, adding more space and spreading people out even more thinly _will_ hurt the game.

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**Author:** ![Khlaa\_Sor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/khlaa_sor/32/434528_2.png) [@Khlaa\_Sor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Khlaa_Sor)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 5:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/foundation-new-quadrant-starts-soon/309027/157 "2021-05-12T05:26:34Z")

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> [@Arrendis](#):
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> based directly on CCP’s public statements over a number of FanFests

Yeah, looks like there are entities pressing certain agenda with markedly fervent determination (_which would probably do better service to the world elsewhere_)

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 1:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/foundation-new-quadrant-starts-soon/309027/158 "2021-05-12T13:45:44Z")

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Are you just word-salading at this point? Because that had no bearing on anything being discussed.

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**Author:** ![Khlaa\_Sor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/khlaa_sor/32/434528_2.png) [@Khlaa\_Sor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Khlaa_Sor)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 1:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/foundation-new-quadrant-starts-soon/309027/159 "2021-05-12T13:57:51Z")

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Have nothing to add to what I’ve said above. The point has been stated in its entirety.

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 2:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/foundation-new-quadrant-starts-soon/309027/160 "2021-05-12T14:11:30Z")

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So, taken in-context of referring to player interaction and retention data, you’re saying CCP should _not_ be pressing an agenda of actually keeping people playing EVE Online? Because in the context of what was being discussed, that’s pretty much what you appear to be saying.

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**Author:** ![Khlaa\_Sor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/khlaa_sor/32/434528_2.png) [@Khlaa\_Sor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Khlaa_Sor)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 2:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/foundation-new-quadrant-starts-soon/309027/161 "2021-05-12T14:26:06Z")

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That appears to be intentionally biased interpretation. The key point actually is:

> [@Khlaa\_Sor](#):
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> Needs differ. Covering a wider spectrum will hardly hurt anyone.

Explanation why has been provided, too. Feel free to disagree.  
Can see no sense in any further cycling.  
And we, just two of us, should rather refrain from hijacking the thread.

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 2:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/foundation-new-quadrant-starts-soon/309027/162 "2021-05-12T14:32:06Z")

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The key point is factually wrong. Nobody needs fewer people in the game, and CCP’s data shows _that_ is the result of what you’re suggesting.

Unless you’d like to call CCP liars about that?

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**Author:** ![Khlaa\_Sor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/khlaa_sor/32/434528_2.png) [@Khlaa\_Sor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Khlaa_Sor)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 3:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/foundation-new-quadrant-starts-soon/309027/163 "2021-05-12T15:05:20Z")

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> [@Arrendis](#):
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> Unless you’d like to call CCP liars about that?

Visions are known to differ as a matter of perspective. There is not enough information to form more definite opinion, hence nothing to add to what has already been said.

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 3:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/foundation-new-quadrant-starts-soon/309027/164 "2021-05-12T15:08:14Z")

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> [@Khlaa\_Sor](#):
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> Visions are known to differ as a matter of perspective. There is not enough information to form more definite opinion, hence nothing to add to what has already been said.

CCP’s data shows that players who interact with other players tend to remain in the game. Those who do not, do not. The more interaction, the more retention. Reduced interaction results in people leaving. This is not a matter of perspective.

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