# Free kills free loot by Triglavian

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/free-kills-free-loot-by-triglavian/385609>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [November 22, 2022, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/free-kills-free-loot-by-triglavian/385609 "2022-11-22T18:56:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Q\_5](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/q_5/32/342534_2.png) [@Q\_5](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Q_5)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2022, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/free-kills-free-loot-by-triglavian/385609/1 "2022-11-22T18:56:34Z")

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Jumping into a system in empire high if Triglavians are killing others and people with standings are sitting at the same triglavian gate they are able to simply let the triglavian do the dirty work while they just scoop up the spoils, seems trollish to me by the devs.

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2022, 7:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/free-kills-free-loot-by-triglavian/385609/2 "2022-11-22T19:13:16Z")

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One of the first careers I took on 15 or so years ago was strolling into high sec battles and scooping up all the crap I could fit in my hold before bolting.

My way of saying this is nothing new. The only difference is that in your case it’s people taking advantage of dummies jumping in to where they shouldn’t be. Not trollish at all.

Mr Epeen 🕶

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**Author:** ![zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zazzmatazz_xu/32/451037_2.png) [@zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zazzmatazz_Xu)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2022, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/free-kills-free-loot-by-triglavian/385609/3 "2022-11-22T19:17:00Z")

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Seems like BS to me but that’s CCP for you, since you posted before about the trig space stuff you do just try to get standings and then you should be good… unless Concord will hunt you, I’m not sure.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2022, 7:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/free-kills-free-loot-by-triglavian/385609/4 "2022-11-22T19:19:09Z")

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Griefing by the Triglavian scumbag sociopaths is getting absolutely out of control. CCP needs to do something about it ASAP or players are going to leave and the game will die!

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2022, 10:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/free-kills-free-loot-by-triglavian/385609/5 "2022-11-23T10:13:01Z")

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Apparently NPC kills dont make anyone quit.

I disagree but Im not in favour of space violence at all.

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**Author:** ![New\_Order\_Enforcer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/new_order_enforcer/32/387867_2.png) [@New\_Order\_Enforcer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/New_Order_Enforcer)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2022, 10:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/free-kills-free-loot-by-triglavian/385609/6 "2022-11-23T10:54:24Z")

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what? some ultra efficient NPC bots, which are immune to Factional Police and Concord, are killing miners in highsec?

and other players are looting the wrecks!

Someone call the Anti Griefing division!

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**Author:** ![New\_Order\_Enforcer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/new_order_enforcer/32/387867_2.png) [@New\_Order\_Enforcer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/New_Order_Enforcer)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2022, 10:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/free-kills-free-loot-by-triglavian/385609/7 "2022-11-23T10:58:27Z")

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and dont forget the alpha gankers which found an exploit to keep destroying orcas with FREE accounts.

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**Author:** ![Ulysses\_Redmane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ulysses_redmane/32/410129_2.png) [@Ulysses\_Redmane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ulysses_Redmane)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2022, 11:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/free-kills-free-loot-by-triglavian/385609/8 "2022-11-23T11:00:00Z")

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Blame CONCORD for not issuing Trigs kill rights 😆

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**Author:** ![zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zazzmatazz_xu/32/451037_2.png) [@zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zazzmatazz_Xu)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2022, 11:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/free-kills-free-loot-by-triglavian/385609/9 "2022-11-23T11:02:57Z")

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BTW drifters and Sansha do these as well, also make sure to warp of quickly otherwise they’ll pod kill you too.

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**Author:** ![Oriki\_Ahvilen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/oriki_ahvilen/32/395043_2.png) [@Oriki\_Ahvilen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Oriki_Ahvilen)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2022, 11:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/free-kills-free-loot-by-triglavian/385609/10 "2022-11-23T11:15:11Z")

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It’s been how many years since we have trigs in the game ? 4-5 ?!

If people still don’t know they’ll need positive standings with (which are relatively easy to get , just need 0.01) trigs to safely pass in those highsec systems then I suppose there’s no problem if they lose their stuff and others take advantage of this. Alternatively , they can fit cloak + MWD , if the fit allows it.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2022, 11:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/free-kills-free-loot-by-triglavian/385609/11 "2022-11-23T11:15:51Z")

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Drifters and Sancho need banned too.

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2022, 1:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/free-kills-free-loot-by-triglavian/385609/12 "2022-11-23T13:23:24Z")

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> [@New\_Order\_Enforcer](#):
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> and other players are looting the wrecks!

can confirm, wrecks are free picking now

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**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2022, 2:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/free-kills-free-loot-by-triglavian/385609/13 "2022-11-23T14:42:23Z")

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> [@Q\_5](#):
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> they are able to simply let the triglavian do the dirty work while they just scoop up the spoils, seems trollish to me by the devs.

I agree with OP: should force the players to do the shooting instead in order to scoop that loot.

I agree with OP’s proposal to make all highsec player-wrecks white and grant players the same CONCORD legal license the Trigs have.

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**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2022, 2:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/free-kills-free-loot-by-triglavian/385609/14 "2022-11-23T14:56:27Z")

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Free? No risk?

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**Author:** ![Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gadget_helmsdottir/32/374037_2.png) [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gadget_Helmsdottir)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2022, 3:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/free-kills-free-loot-by-triglavian/385609/15 "2022-11-23T15:15:35Z")

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I used to lurk behind RvB battles and scoop all the lost drones.

–Gadget misses the simpler days

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**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2022, 3:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/free-kills-free-loot-by-triglavian/385609/16 "2022-11-23T15:23:46Z")

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You know a “simple” golem can break the MV (minor victory) gate camps, right? And the werposts take FOREVER to respawn.

Go take action vs just crying here.

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**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2022, 3:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/free-kills-free-loot-by-triglavian/385609/17 "2022-11-23T15:27:26Z")

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Have you taken a Marauder to LS?

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**Author:** ![New\_Order\_Enforcer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/new_order_enforcer/32/387867_2.png) [@New\_Order\_Enforcer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/New_Order_Enforcer)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2022, 4:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/free-kills-free-loot-by-triglavian/385609/18 "2022-11-23T16:12:34Z")

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Agree, CCP should allow the players to do the NPC trigs work. Some relaxing gate camping in Highsec without FacPo and Concord and gate guns… And we can make mistakes and the miners can even have a chance to escape.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2022, 4:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/free-kills-free-loot-by-triglavian/385609/19 "2022-11-23T16:52:39Z")

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You know, that’s the _problem_ with this game. Everything is “shoot shoot shoot, kill kill kill, grief grief grief.” If CCP removed all the useless violence, both from players and NPCs, and focused on the cooperative aspect of gameplay, this game would have many more players because it would be more enjoyable for everyone to play. People already have enough problems with their lives, and after a hard day at work, the only thing they want to do is spend some time to build or create something, and not have to think about violence from and toward all directions. People already have to constantly worry about mass shootings and wars in today’s world. Video games are supposed to be a _break_ from that. We just want to relax and have some fun, and not be forced to deal with explosions all the time!

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2022, 8:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/free-kills-free-loot-by-triglavian/385609/20 "2022-11-23T20:42:50Z")

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Why such a change of heart?

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