# Freeport Doctrine, and Laws seem not matter in EvE anymore **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Tags:** null-sec, low-sec, pvp\ **Created:** [December 11, 2023, 9:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/freeport-doctrine-and-laws-seem-not-matter-in-eve-anymore/432063 "2023-12-11T09:41:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Kanavaisto\_Askiras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kanavaisto_askiras/32/387775_2.png) [@Kanavaisto\_Askiras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kanavaisto_Askiras)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2023, 10:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/freeport-doctrine-and-laws-seem-not-matter-in-eve-anymore/432063/22 "2023-12-11T22:27:43Z")
> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > Freeport laws? > > I though the only law for freeports is to never put something there that you cannot afford to lose as these freeports exist to bait naive pilots who do not realise that access can and will be revoked at any time. > > A bit like the ‘doubling ISK’ deal, which may work for small amounts but is definitely a scam if you risk anything big. Seriously? How old are you? 15? Those rules exist since beta…since the first player set foot in null. You have not the RIGHT to deny them kid… Accept it or leave the game…eve is too complicated for you… ---
**Author:** ![Kanavaisto\_Askiras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kanavaisto_askiras/32/387775_2.png) [@Kanavaisto\_Askiras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kanavaisto_Askiras)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2023, 10:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/freeport-doctrine-and-laws-seem-not-matter-in-eve-anymore/432063/23 "2023-12-11T22:29:56Z")
> [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](#): > > Customs/culture change among the players and what was considered normal BACK THEN can change dramatically in today’s EVE. NO end of story… ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2023, 10:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/freeport-doctrine-and-laws-seem-not-matter-in-eve-anymore/432063/24 "2023-12-11T22:49:09Z")
> [@Kanavaisto\_Askiras](#): > > Seriously? > > How old are you? 15? > > Those rules exist since beta…since the first player set foot in null. > > You have not the RIGHT to deny them kid… > > Accept it or leave the game…eve is too complicated for you… True, I do not have the RIGHT to deny them. After all, I do not own any structure. If I did own a structure and had it called ‘Freeport Amatin’ I would however have the right to deny anyone access at any time, possibly when they had just jumped their jump freighter to it expecting to see tether and docking rights. ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2023, 10:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/freeport-doctrine-and-laws-seem-not-matter-in-eve-anymore/432063/25 "2023-12-11T22:49:16Z")
![-WUU1P](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/5/c/8/5c844c4fab120039f74781932376187de94bc5e9.gif) Some folks will never learn ---
**Author:** ![Hyrja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hyrja/32/412180_2.png) [@Hyrja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hyrja)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2023, 11:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/freeport-doctrine-and-laws-seem-not-matter-in-eve-anymore/432063/26 "2023-12-11T23:44:13Z")
THe nicest I have seen 0.0 get is some take pity on some “man that sucks” failscades and evacs. they let the evicted have some time to get clones out and didn’t purge the clones of the older player based outposts. Not altruism though. Maybe they get lucky and someone jc’s in to move a good ship for a free target lol. I liked dipping in like a year later to confuse the new owners. ---
**Author:** ![Komi\_Valentine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/komi_valentine/32/502956_2.png) [@Komi\_Valentine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Komi_Valentine)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2023, 11:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/freeport-doctrine-and-laws-seem-not-matter-in-eve-anymore/432063/27 "2023-12-11T23:58:22Z")
> [@Yasminka\_Duchovnavik](#): > > I wasn’t ganked. I have just heard a lot of players complaining about these freeports lately. Eve players complain a lot. I don’t see a problem with this at all. Why would I ever dock at a station where I don’t know the owner or that doesn’t have a long history of being a freeport? If somebody falls for such a small brain trap, it’s their fault, because they got lazy. **Be careful who you trust and if you want to establish a service like a freeport, earn the trust it needs.** Where is the problem exactly now? ---
**Author:** ![Hyrja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hyrja/32/412180_2.png) [@Hyrja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hyrja)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2023, 12:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/freeport-doctrine-and-laws-seem-not-matter-in-eve-anymore/432063/28 "2023-12-12T00:10:22Z")
> [@Komi\_Valentine](#): > > Where is the problem exactly now? SOmeone hasn’t learned to slum it in NPC zero. Or Join a crew and half butt it with an occassional fleet show up to look “active”. Or they took a contract in non NPC “station” and its stuck there. reading contracts…its more than seeing if its the old, yet funny, Charon contract…with 1 Carbon. I always liked that one. ---
**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2023, 1:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/freeport-doctrine-and-laws-seem-not-matter-in-eve-anymore/432063/29 "2023-12-12T01:25:24Z")
Would you like to elaborate? ---
**Author:** ![Calamity\_Unleashed](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/calamity_unleashed/32/413414_2.png) [@Calamity\_Unleashed](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Calamity_Unleashed)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2023, 2:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/freeport-doctrine-and-laws-seem-not-matter-in-eve-anymore/432063/30 "2023-12-12T02:21:00Z")
I’m not stupid, I just don’t give a flyin’ fart, how about that? > [@Kanavaisto\_Askiras](#): > > He basically TROLD YOU You’re right, he TROLLED me. > [@Kanavaisto\_Askiras](#): > > why this laws MUST exist No law _MUST_ exist. You’re being hysterical. > [@Kanavaisto\_Askiras](#): > > and why ANY break of it is a death penatlty for your systems economy Right. I’ll believe that crap when I see it, prophets of doom never say **when**. > [@Kanavaisto\_Askiras](#): > > Not following those rules will only kill null or transform it into and endless trigger happy anarchy b u l l s h i t… It already is that. > [@Kanavaisto\_Askiras](#): > > But i suppose this is EXACTLY what people like you want…shooting without sense and no questions asked,hm? Yes. Just pull that trigger until nothing left moves. Then pick up that M.106 and unload into the jungle thereby creating a clearing. That’s how real men do it. ---
**Author:** ![Kanavaisto\_Askiras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kanavaisto_askiras/32/387775_2.png) [@Kanavaisto\_Askiras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kanavaisto_Askiras)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2023, 2:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/freeport-doctrine-and-laws-seem-not-matter-in-eve-anymore/432063/31 "2023-12-13T14:58:38Z")
> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > If I did own a structure and had it called ‘Freeport Amatin’ I would however have the right to deny anyone access at any time, possibly when they had just jumped their jump freighter to it expecting to see tether and docking rights. No you don’t unless you rename it and stop calling it freeport… For this is not allowed… End of story ---
**Author:** ![Calamity\_Unleashed](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/calamity_unleashed/32/413414_2.png) [@Calamity\_Unleashed](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Calamity_Unleashed)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2023, 3:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/freeport-doctrine-and-laws-seem-not-matter-in-eve-anymore/432063/33 "2023-12-13T15:29:08Z")
Calm down, miner. ---
**Author:** ![Calamity\_Unleashed](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/calamity_unleashed/32/413414_2.png) [@Calamity\_Unleashed](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Calamity_Unleashed)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2023, 3:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/freeport-doctrine-and-laws-seem-not-matter-in-eve-anymore/432063/34 "2023-12-13T15:39:48Z")
Happily deleted. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2023, 6:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/freeport-doctrine-and-laws-seem-not-matter-in-eve-anymore/432063/35 "2023-12-13T18:31:55Z")
> [@Kanavaisto\_Askiras](#): > > No you don’t unless you rename it and stop calling it freeport… > For this is not allowed… > > End of story Are you saying it is not allowed to deceive people in EVE online? ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2023, 8:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/freeport-doctrine-and-laws-seem-not-matter-in-eve-anymore/432063/36 "2023-12-13T20:09:42Z")
ITS ANARCHY 🔥 ---
**Author:** ![Gleb\_Koskov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gleb_koskov/32/374138_2.png) [@Gleb\_Koskov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gleb_Koskov)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2023, 7:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/freeport-doctrine-and-laws-seem-not-matter-in-eve-anymore/432063/37 "2023-12-26T07:15:01Z")
Should be at least 24 hours before you’re restricted from the station with a mail confirmation. But because of the lack of it CCP themselves seem complicit on tricking and fooling players as well. ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2023, 1:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/freeport-doctrine-and-laws-seem-not-matter-in-eve-anymore/432063/38 "2023-12-26T13:55:31Z")
> [@Kanavaisto\_Askiras](#): > > For this is not allowed… Except that it is…. > [@Kanavaisto\_Askiras](#): > > End of story Is it though? I like how you use this as if it’s the penultimate argument to end all arguments. But in reality, it only goes to show how sophomoric and entitled you are. End of story. End on line. The end. Fin. Mic drop. ---
**Author:** ![Hyrja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hyrja/32/412180_2.png) [@Hyrja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hyrja)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2023, 12:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/freeport-doctrine-and-laws-seem-not-matter-in-eve-anymore/432063/39 "2023-12-27T00:30:49Z")
Most people who live outside empire know unless it’s npc, it’s sketchy. Read contracts goes a long way. And when open….be wary of traps. Angel fw example. Some deals are in npc, some arein player based stuff. For the npc It Could be 5 dudes in system and not so bad, it could be a fl33t family reunion in there. Bounce to celestial and dscan the station dock. Lots of people on undock is not a nice sign lol. Admiral ackbar would be going dude…do I even have to say it. And gives flat, tired it’s a trap. ---
**Author:** ![Nabi\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nabi_kim/32/390748_2.png) [@Nabi\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nabi_Kim)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2023, 1:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/freeport-doctrine-and-laws-seem-not-matter-in-eve-anymore/432063/40 "2023-12-27T13:34:41Z")
> [@Piewpie\_La\_Canarde](#): > > What do you expec, the game is literally Psycho vs Psycho. There are probably more people complaining about “psychopaths” in EVE than there are psychopaths in EVE. ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2023, 3:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/freeport-doctrine-and-laws-seem-not-matter-in-eve-anymore/432063/41 "2023-12-27T15:37:35Z")
I’ve decided -here on these forums- to label those that scream and flail and call people “psychopath” as the real psychopaths. ---
**Author:** ![Yasminka\_Duchovnavik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yasminka_duchovnavik/32/397398_2.png) [@Yasminka\_Duchovnavik](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yasminka_Duchovnavik)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2023, 8:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/freeport-doctrine-and-laws-seem-not-matter-in-eve-anymore/432063/42 "2023-12-31T20:45:07Z")
If you play EvE, the chances are that you are clinically psychotic, or sociopathic in some form. The only difference according to various peer reviewed studies, between a CEO and a Serial Killer mentally is that the CEO chose a different outlet. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/freeport-doctrine-and-laws-seem-not-matter-in-eve-anymore/432063.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/freeport-doctrine-and-laws-seem-not-matter-in-eve-anymore/432063.md?page=3)