# Freighters are too cost effective to suicide gank. Need HP increase **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [February 4, 2020, 3:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/freighters-are-too-cost-effective-to-suicide-gank-need-hp-increase/217169 "2020-02-04T15:19:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![Dav\_Varan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dav_varan/32/267018_2.png) [@Dav\_Varan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dav_Varan)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2020, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/freighters-are-too-cost-effective-to-suicide-gank-need-hp-increase/217169/336 "2020-02-06T16:20:32Z")
Classic rant , you sound mad. I gave you a heart for that one. ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2020, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/freighters-are-too-cost-effective-to-suicide-gank-need-hp-increase/217169/337 "2020-02-06T16:21:13Z")
The 20 are gankers, not real players, just assholes that shouldn’t even be allowed to play, they have no rights… /s ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2020, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/freighters-are-too-cost-effective-to-suicide-gank-need-hp-increase/217169/338 "2020-02-06T16:21:29Z")
> [@Dav\_Varan](#): > > Someone else must have been talking about balance. You were, when you refused to acknowledge that freighter pilots can bring friends or have alts. > [@Dav\_Varan](#): > > My sub thread was about ccp shortchanging freighter pilots with 0 gameplay. Bring friends. Weve been over this already. > [@Dav\_Varan](#): > > Just cus its an MMO does not mean you should accept shiteness. If you consider having to make friends in an MMO or suffer the consequences as shiteness, Maybe youre playing the wrong game. Maybe you should switch to a single player game. ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2020, 4:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/freighters-are-too-cost-effective-to-suicide-gank-need-hp-increase/217169/339 "2020-02-06T16:22:55Z")
> [@Dav\_Varan](#): > > Classic rant , you sound mad. I wasnt the one who lost. Why would I be mad? Its like the gold medal winner at the olympics, getting mad at the guy who finished last. LOL. What sort of bizzaro world do you live in. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2020, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/freighters-are-too-cost-effective-to-suicide-gank-need-hp-increase/217169/340 "2020-02-06T16:29:31Z")
> [@Sabus\_Narian](#): > > That’s the bittervet population for you That’s the farmer trash population for you, assuming that if the people with the most experience and knowledge dislike an idea then it somehow must be the best thing ever. ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2020, 4:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/freighters-are-too-cost-effective-to-suicide-gank-need-hp-increase/217169/341 "2020-02-06T16:30:07Z")
> That’s the farmer trash population for you, assuming that if the people with the most experience and knowledge dislike an idea then it somehow must be the best thing ever. ? that makes no sense ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2020, 4:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/freighters-are-too-cost-effective-to-suicide-gank-need-hp-increase/217169/342 "2020-02-06T16:33:13Z")
> [@Sabus\_Narian](#): > > ? that makes no sense Ok, let me explain it like you are a five year old: over and over again you post “LOL BITTERVETS”, because you have the delusional belief that making veteran players (the people with the most knowledge and experience because they have been playing the game for a long time) hate your idiotic proposal is a win for you. You are farmer trash and you have nothing of value to offer, but you act like you have provided brilliant insight and won every argument. ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Norros](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_norros/32/249084_2.png) [@ISD\_Norros](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Norros)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2020, 4:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/freighters-are-too-cost-effective-to-suicide-gank-need-hp-increase/217169/343 "2020-02-06T16:33:28Z")
Removed a number of posts+replies for violating forum rules > **1.** **Specifically restricted conduct.** > > The purpose of the EVE Online forums is to provide a platform for exchange of ideas, and a venue for the discussion of EVE Online. Occasionally there will be conflicts that arise when people voice opinions. Forum users are expected to courteous when disagreeing with others. > > In order to maintain an environment where everyone is welcome and discussion flows freely, certain types of conduct are prohibited on the EVE Online forums. These are: > > - Trolling > - Flaming > - Ranting > - Personal Attacks > - Harassment > - Doxxing > - Racism & Discrimination > - Hate Speech > - Sexism > - Spamming > - Bumping > - Off-Topic Posting > - Pyramid Quoting > - Rumor Mongering > - New Player Bashing > - Impersonation > - Advertising ---
**Author:** ![Jint\_Hikaru](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jint_hikaru/32/387656_2.png) [@Jint\_Hikaru](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jint_Hikaru)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2020, 5:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/freighters-are-too-cost-effective-to-suicide-gank-need-hp-increase/217169/345 "2020-02-06T17:08:38Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > Except of course that the mechanics around ganking do not support that. Whenever someone suggests changing ganking mechanics to allow people to fight back properly, gankers throw a hissy fit because they might need to put more than 2 days of training into their alts and not be able to effectively multibox them 10 at a time. Hey, I’m not supporting gankers. I am opposing someone asking CCP to to buff ships to support their individual playstyle, when saying they do not want to have other players assist them. This is an MMO. If something is too hard to solo, you bring friends… you don’t come to the forums and ask for that thing to be made easier. ---
**Author:** ![Jint\_Hikaru](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jint_hikaru/32/387656_2.png) [@Jint\_Hikaru](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jint_Hikaru)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2020, 5:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/freighters-are-too-cost-effective-to-suicide-gank-need-hp-increase/217169/347 "2020-02-06T17:14:54Z")
Fair point. Maybe that should be explored, instead of “Make my Freighter double the HP” requests, we should be looking into make having support ships flying along side a Freighter be useful. This would then improve the multiplayer part of MMO. ---
**Author:** ![FairyTail\_Omaristos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fairytail_omaristos/32/145000_2.png) [@FairyTail\_Omaristos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/FairyTail_Omaristos)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2020, 5:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/freighters-are-too-cost-effective-to-suicide-gank-need-hp-increase/217169/348 "2020-02-06T17:15:29Z")
> [@Hi\_I\_m\_Dave](#): > > Really? Post on my main, bro? Having a forum-alt is just a demonstration of your weakness. You use it to hide who you are due to being scared of bad opinion and so it shows how weak you are. If you say something - anything - you should have the strength of character and conviction to say it openly without hiding behind a forum-alt. Otherwise you are just another coward who thinks they have any sort of meaning. ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2020, 5:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/freighters-are-too-cost-effective-to-suicide-gank-need-hp-increase/217169/349 "2020-02-06T17:51:25Z")
> [@Hi\_I\_m\_Dave](#): > > > Really? Post on my main, bro? > > Having a forum-alt is just a demonstration of your weakness. You use it to hide who you are due to being scared of bad opinion and so it shows how weak you are. > > If you say something - anything - you should have the strength of character and conviction to say it openly without hiding behind a forum-alt. Otherwise you are just another coward who thinks they have any sort of meaning. 1. You misunderstood his post 2. lol, ■■■■■■■■ ---
**Author:** ![Jane\_Says\_DunwitSergio](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jane_says_dunwitsergio/32/185454_2.png) [@Jane\_Says\_DunwitSergio](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jane_Says_DunwitSergio)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2020, 6:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/freighters-are-too-cost-effective-to-suicide-gank-need-hp-increase/217169/350 "2020-02-06T18:04:24Z")
@Lucia_Clover needs a permanent ban from the game. These suggestions are offensive. ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2020, 6:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/freighters-are-too-cost-effective-to-suicide-gank-need-hp-increase/217169/351 "2020-02-06T18:21:44Z")
Giving extra hp wont solve your issues, perhaps you should use a webbing alt and not ap through KNOWN problematic pipes; be smart… Though of course ops post isnt too smart… Now talk to me about -10 criminals being able to dock at citadels and stations that might be a smart topic. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2020, 6:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/freighters-are-too-cost-effective-to-suicide-gank-need-hp-increase/217169/352 "2020-02-06T18:27:21Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > Whenever someone suggests changing ganking mechanics to allow people to fight back properly I see nothing that allows anyone to fight back properly, only yet another demand for more HP to passively wait until CONCORD deals with the problem. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2020, 6:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/freighters-are-too-cost-effective-to-suicide-gank-need-hp-increase/217169/354 "2020-02-06T18:37:23Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > But what do you expect? Something besides the same old pathetic bleating about how PvP needs to be nerfed because EVE is too difficult and everyone is entitled to success. And something besides excuses for why you aren’t going to provide a better mechanic, not just demands for someone else to do it for you. ---
**Author:** ![z0ra\_Berg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/z0ra_berg/32/187042_2.png) [@z0ra\_Berg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/z0ra_Berg)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2020, 6:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/freighters-are-too-cost-effective-to-suicide-gank-need-hp-increase/217169/355 "2020-02-06T18:44:54Z")
> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > entitled to success That’s really all there is to it. These three words describe pretty much the fundament of every single rant about gankers and thiefs out there. The silly idea that people are entitled to success. They’re not. No one is. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2020, 6:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/freighters-are-too-cost-effective-to-suicide-gank-need-hp-increase/217169/356 "2020-02-06T18:46:02Z")
And you both are entitled to BS. ---
**Author:** ![z0ra\_Berg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/z0ra_berg/32/187042_2.png) [@z0ra\_Berg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/z0ra_Berg)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2020, 6:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/freighters-are-too-cost-effective-to-suicide-gank-need-hp-increase/217169/357 "2020-02-06T18:47:39Z")
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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2020, 6:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/freighters-are-too-cost-effective-to-suicide-gank-need-hp-increase/217169/358 "2020-02-06T18:51:12Z")
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