# Frequent Crashes on macOS Sonoma with M2 Max and M1 MacBooks

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/frequent-crashes-on-macos-sonoma-with-m2-max-and-m1-macbooks/449422>\
**Category:** Mac OS\
**Created:** [May 17, 2024, 1:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/frequent-crashes-on-macos-sonoma-with-m2-max-and-m1-macbooks/449422 "2024-05-17T01:35:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Gods\_Hammer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gods_hammer/32/441202_2.png) [@Gods\_Hammer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gods_Hammer)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2024, 10:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/frequent-crashes-on-macos-sonoma-with-m2-max-and-m1-macbooks/449422/41 "2024-11-19T10:43:56Z")

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just came here because I got exactly the same issue, when shaders are set on high and you are in front of a keepstar with a lot of players on the grid, the client will crash to desktop within seconds when you are looking at the keepstar with all the ships from a distance… I think the shader model used for the high setting is the problem…

maybe there should be an additional shader setting with ultra, and some features of the high moved over just to ultra do identify the issue… maybe also a option to disable skins and just use standard skins on ships, maybe this would also fix the issue… not sure

I do not have the issue when shaders are set to medium or if I don’t look at the keepstar with all the ships… if I look into another direction the client won’t crash with shader set to high…

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**Author:** ![Maria\_G\_Pen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maria_g_pen/32/439052_2.png) [@Maria\_G\_Pen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maria_G_Pen)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 9:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/frequent-crashes-on-macos-sonoma-with-m2-max-and-m1-macbooks/449422/42 "2024-11-23T21:13:04Z")

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It’s been better for about two weeks, but since the last patch, the crashes have become more frequent. I now have to go back to potato mode.

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**Author:** ![Harry\_Forever](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/harry_forever/32/440159_2.png) [@Harry\_Forever](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Harry_Forever)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2024, 5:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/frequent-crashes-on-macos-sonoma-with-m2-max-and-m1-macbooks/449422/43 "2024-11-25T17:19:20Z")

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I got an update from support, they said the developers are looking into the problem, but I think everybody needs to file a bug report as well to make them aware that this issue is having an impact on many players and to assure it gets the attention we need…

as soon as I have more info I will post it here…

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**Author:** ![Nick\_Andemare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nick_andemare/32/378129_2.png) [@Nick\_Andemare](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nick_Andemare)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2024, 12:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/frequent-crashes-on-macos-sonoma-with-m2-max-and-m1-macbooks/449422/44 "2024-11-26T12:39:00Z")

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Well, opening a xxxx ticket about that since May ^^

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**Author:** ![Nick\_Andemare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nick_andemare/32/378129_2.png) [@Nick\_Andemare](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nick_Andemare)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2024, 12:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/frequent-crashes-on-macos-sonoma-with-m2-max-and-m1-macbooks/449422/45 "2024-11-26T12:45:51Z")

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[https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/1gov26v/mac\_client\_keeps\_crashing\_while\_in\_fleet\_or\_with/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/1gov26v/mac_client_keeps_crashing_while_in_fleet_or_with/)

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**Author:** ![Nick\_Andemare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nick_andemare/32/378129_2.png) [@Nick\_Andemare](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nick_Andemare)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2024, 9:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/frequent-crashes-on-macos-sonoma-with-m2-max-and-m1-macbooks/449422/46 "2024-12-02T09:03:18Z")

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CCP Message :

Hi there Capsuleer, GM Caliban here.

Thank you for contacting the EVE Online Player Experience.

Unfortunately, there has been no update to GM supprort team on the Mac OS issue as yet. The development team is still looking into this. As per previous correspondence with Senior GM Chaos, they expect the fix to be announced/mentioned in future patch notes. Please keep an eye out for any news regarding this. Unfotunately, the GM support team is unable to assist with resolving this.

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If there is anything else I may assist you with, please let me know.  
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Last news…

Still looking since start of the year !

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**Author:** ![Yotaxxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yotaxxx/32/436028_2.png) [@Yotaxxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yotaxxx)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2024, 10:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/frequent-crashes-on-macos-sonoma-with-m2-max-and-m1-macbooks/449422/47 "2024-12-02T22:26:34Z")

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Shaders has yielded the same results. Crashes down to a minimum with medium shaders selected. Still random crashes tho in certain environments.

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**Author:** ![Harry\_Forever](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/harry_forever/32/440159_2.png) [@Harry\_Forever](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Harry_Forever)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2024, 2:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/frequent-crashes-on-macos-sonoma-with-m2-max-and-m1-macbooks/449422/48 "2024-12-04T14:14:42Z")

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I can confirm I also had crashes when on medium shaders… if they know about it they should at least give a timeline on when we can expect a fix for this…

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**Author:** ![Nick\_Andemare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nick_andemare/32/378129_2.png) [@Nick\_Andemare](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nick_Andemare)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 9:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/frequent-crashes-on-macos-sonoma-with-m2-max-and-m1-macbooks/449422/49 "2024-12-09T09:56:20Z")

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My last ticket, although I had asked that it not be closed before the problem was resolved, has just been closed and I am asked if I am satisfied…

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**Author:** ![Harry\_Forever](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/harry_forever/32/440159_2.png) [@Harry\_Forever](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Harry_Forever)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 10:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/frequent-crashes-on-macos-sonoma-with-m2-max-and-m1-macbooks/449422/50 "2024-12-09T10:12:48Z")

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they did not close my ticket but I expect the same to happen… will create a new one with this and my other account at the time they do it… tickets will fly in until this is resolved…

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**Author:** ![Harry\_Forever](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/harry_forever/32/440159_2.png) [@Harry\_Forever](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Harry_Forever)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2024, 9:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/frequent-crashes-on-macos-sonoma-with-m2-max-and-m1-macbooks/449422/51 "2024-12-10T09:16:00Z")

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I got an update from support “the development team is currently investigating the issue and is actively working towards a resolution.”

I told them to check in with the developers from time to time and give me further updates on the progress… everybody who has the issue please still file a bug report explaining it in all detail, I’m sure this will speed up things to get this fixed…

as soon as I have more information I will post it here…

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**Author:** ![Nick\_Andemare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nick_andemare/32/378129_2.png) [@Nick\_Andemare](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nick_Andemare)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 9:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/frequent-crashes-on-macos-sonoma-with-m2-max-and-m1-macbooks/449422/52 "2024-12-11T21:11:08Z")

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Cool ^^

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**Author:** ![Nick\_Andemare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nick_andemare/32/378129_2.png) [@Nick\_Andemare](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nick_Andemare)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 9:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/frequent-crashes-on-macos-sonoma-with-m2-max-and-m1-macbooks/449422/53 "2024-12-11T21:35:34Z")

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I don’t really dare believe it yet, but following an update/download on downtime i run in high qual since 10 min on a Keepstar

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**Author:** ![Nick\_Andemare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nick_andemare/32/378129_2.png) [@Nick\_Andemare](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nick_Andemare)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 9:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/frequent-crashes-on-macos-sonoma-with-m2-max-and-m1-macbooks/449422/54 "2024-12-11T21:36:04Z")

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I will give information if it is fixed

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**Author:** ![Nick\_Andemare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nick_andemare/32/378129_2.png) [@Nick\_Andemare](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nick_Andemare)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 10:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/frequent-crashes-on-macos-sonoma-with-m2-max-and-m1-macbooks/449422/55 "2024-12-11T22:16:17Z")

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Well, I’ll push it longer tomorrow, but it seems that today’s update, which isn’t even referenced, solved the problem.  
To be confirmed

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**Author:** ![Nick\_Andemare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nick_andemare/32/378129_2.png) [@Nick\_Andemare](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nick_Andemare)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2024, 2:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/frequent-crashes-on-macos-sonoma-with-m2-max-and-m1-macbooks/449422/56 "2024-12-12T14:26:24Z")

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Well, it always crashes

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**Author:** ![Nick\_Andemare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nick_andemare/32/378129_2.png) [@Nick\_Andemare](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nick_Andemare)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2024, 1:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/frequent-crashes-on-macos-sonoma-with-m2-max-and-m1-macbooks/449422/57 "2024-12-13T13:30:54Z")

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New ticket open

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**Author:** ![Stursh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stursh/32/432090_2.png) [@Stursh](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Stursh)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2024, 7:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/frequent-crashes-on-macos-sonoma-with-m2-max-and-m1-macbooks/449422/58 "2024-12-15T07:19:12Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Halesworth](#):
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> MJ-5F9

y, any update on this? medium shaders still cause crash?

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**Author:** ![Stursh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stursh/32/432090_2.png) [@Stursh](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Stursh)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2024, 7:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/frequent-crashes-on-macos-sonoma-with-m2-max-and-m1-macbooks/449422/59 "2024-12-15T07:23:37Z")

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also, does this happen when zoomed in or also when zoomed out on grid?

ty

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**Author:** ![Harry\_Forever](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/harry_forever/32/440159_2.png) [@Harry\_Forever](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Harry_Forever)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2024, 3:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/frequent-crashes-on-macos-sonoma-with-m2-max-and-m1-macbooks/449422/60 "2024-12-21T15:37:52Z")

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zoomed out it crashes on high shaders

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