# From Extraction to Production - will it make me return to Eve? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 12, 2021, 9:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/from-extraction-to-production-will-it-make-me-return-to-eve/336417 "2021-11-12T21:22:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 10:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/from-extraction-to-production-will-it-make-me-return-to-eve/336417/164 "2021-11-15T22:16:27Z")
> [@Phan\_tasm](#): > > Regardless of the percentage of gankers in EVE, one has to account for the real eventuality of getting ganked and since the gank is a complete surprise for the ganked, he has to think and behave as if there’s a ganker in every system and not rely on statistics or luck. I mean, this _is_ a PvP game after all. Oh yea. Complete surprise. I mean you only got a system wide radar that updates on whoever is in system with you. You can add said gankers to standings for ease of warning. And then you could just warp off to a safe as you should be aligned and mining amirite? > [@Phan\_tasm](#): > > I believe that, sure. But for a noob like me, it’ll be a surprise until I learn what the gankers go for, when and where… > I got ganked a few days ago on my way to another empire space. Did I think I’d get ganked? It was at the back of my mind. Could I have prevented it? Sure, if I had checked Look Before You Jump website I would’ve seen that a gate was camped. But I was in a hurry and in a disposable ship so went on with my travel as if nothing happened. So, live and learn as my grandmother liked to say. F10 is your friend. If you see more than 2-3 ships lost in a system, maybe think about why? > [@Aisha\_Katalen](#): > > You’re not, you’re an alt. No actual new player starts posting about scarcity effects a week after char creation. Also, assuming we stick to the “this is my character” thing, you didn’t get ganked: you lost an ibis in low sec which isn’t ganking. Ah. The truth comes out. I was attempting to argue in good faith but I should just have assumed he was an alt with an agenda ROFL. ---
**Author:** ![Phan\_tasm](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/phan_tasm/32/296096_2.png) [@Phan\_tasm](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Phan_tasm)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 10:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/from-extraction-to-production-will-it-make-me-return-to-eve/336417/165 "2021-11-15T22:16:38Z")
> [@Aisha\_Katalen](#): > > You’re not, you’re an alt. No actual new player starts posting about scarcity effects a week after char creation You seem to forget that I know how to read and I’ve done a lot of that since signing up on EVE. But if you want to think this isn’t my main you can go right ahead, it won’t make a bit of difference to me. > [@Aisha\_Katalen](#): > > you didn’t get ganked: you lost an ibis in low sec which isn’t ganking Oh, okay. Sorry for using the wrong word. I apologize… I merely got blown up in lowsec yet the result was the same. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 10:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/from-extraction-to-production-will-it-make-me-return-to-eve/336417/166 "2021-11-15T22:17:09Z")
> [@Phan\_tasm](#): > > You seem to forget that I know how to read and I’ve done a lot of that since signing up on EVE. > But if you want to think this isn’t my main you can go right ahead, it won’t make a bit of difference to me. Nah bro you got caught out. Its ok. The gank is a complete surprise thing should have tipped me off. ---
**Author:** ![Phan\_tasm](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/phan_tasm/32/296096_2.png) [@Phan\_tasm](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Phan_tasm)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 10:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/from-extraction-to-production-will-it-make-me-return-to-eve/336417/167 "2021-11-15T22:19:51Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > Nah bro you got caught out. Its ok. The gank is a complete surprise thing should have tipped me off. Sorry, I don’t understand what you mean by any of that, seriously. Repost it with more words maybe and state what you’re alluding to, please. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 10:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/from-extraction-to-production-will-it-make-me-return-to-eve/336417/168 "2021-11-15T22:28:44Z")
> [@Phan\_tasm](#): > > Sorry, I don’t understand what you mean by any of that, seriously. Repost it with more words maybe and state what you’re alluding to, please. Oh you know very well sir 😃 I wish peeps would just come right out and say it. The sophistry gets old. ---
**Author:** ![Phan\_tasm](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/phan_tasm/32/296096_2.png) [@Phan\_tasm](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Phan_tasm)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 10:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/from-extraction-to-production-will-it-make-me-return-to-eve/336417/169 "2021-11-15T22:40:39Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > Oh you know very well sir 😃 > > I wish peeps would just come right out and say it. The sophistry gets old ??? Okay, I guess I’ll leave it at that. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2022, 10:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/from-extraction-to-production-will-it-make-me-return-to-eve/336417/170 "2022-02-13T22:41:31Z")
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