# From the Kybernauts of New Eden to The Triglavian Collective **URL:** \ **Category:** Intergalactic Summit\ **Created:** [June 17, 2021, 1:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/from-the-kybernauts-of-new-eden-to-the-triglavian-collective/316593 "2021-06-17T13:40:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhalyd_lyehin/32/358574_2.png) [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhalyd_Lyehin)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 5:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/from-the-kybernauts-of-new-eden-to-the-triglavian-collective/316593/22 "2021-06-17T17:31:37Z")
Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. Trig Lovers complaining about hardships and yet their biggest hardships have yet to begin. It is high time that Concord revokes any and all positive Edencom standings from people who have high triglavian standings. No one who is best friends with the invaders should be allowed to be friends with the people who fought against the invaders. ---
**Author:** ![Sahara\_Jackal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sahara_jackal/32/296697_2.png) [@Sahara\_Jackal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sahara_Jackal)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 5:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/from-the-kybernauts-of-new-eden-to-the-triglavian-collective/316593/23 "2021-06-17T17:34:29Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > No no, of _course_ you don’t agree. That’s why you, the _head diplo_ of Stribog, is letting someone else claim to speak for Stribog. Because you know, I let people I don’t agree with claim to speak for me _all the time_. Oh, I may have words for Yami and his use of Stribog Clade’s name. . . but unlike you, I prefer not to air internal drama in public fora. > [@Arrendis](#): > > And you’re not _asking_… you’re _praying_. You know, that thing that means ‘asking’, but only in the context of simultaneous submission by the _meek_. The word “you” sure is doing a lot of heavy lifting in this sentence. But speaking of _you,_ Arrendis, I think some humility would do you a lot of good. As you are so fond of pointing out, capsuleers are not _gods._ It’s good to acknowledge a higher power now and again, don’t you think? As a wise bunch of friendly bumblebee types like to say, _no hoobris._ What you mischaracterize as slavish devotion to the Collective I call appropriate respect for an entity that holds the keys to nothing less than the next, superior evolution of the human species. ---
**Author:** ![Sahara\_Jackal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sahara_jackal/32/296697_2.png) [@Sahara\_Jackal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sahara_Jackal)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 5:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/from-the-kybernauts-of-new-eden-to-the-triglavian-collective/316593/24 "2021-06-17T17:38:00Z")
> [@Jennifer\_Maxwell](#): > > It matters little though. You’re about as intelectually interesting as a True Slave. …who are you, again? ---
**Author:** ![Issac\_Taredi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/issac_taredi/32/435383_2.png) [@Issac\_Taredi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Issac_Taredi)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 5:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/from-the-kybernauts-of-new-eden-to-the-triglavian-collective/316593/25 "2021-06-17T17:40:57Z")
Arrendis strikes me as someone who would argue with you about the color of the sky. Im amazed anyone gives him the time of day. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 5:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/from-the-kybernauts-of-new-eden-to-the-triglavian-collective/316593/26 "2021-06-17T17:42:16Z")
> [@Sahara\_Jackal](#): > > Oh, I may have words for Yami and his use of Stribog Clade’s name. . . but unlike you, I prefer not to air internal drama in public fora. Oh, you _may_, but then, one of your own already edited the text and the ‘speaking for Stribog’ bit _stayed in_. So while you _may_… I’m really betting you _may not_. PS: not airing internal drama in public would’ve meant not even saying _that_ much. Way to diplo. > [@Sahara\_Jackal](#): > > But speaking of _you,_ Arrendis, I think some humility would do you a lot of good. Well, you know, it’s hard to be humble when you’re as great as I am. > [@Sahara\_Jackal](#): > > What you mischaracterize as slavish devotion to the Collective I call appropriate respect for an entity that holds the keys to nothing less than the next, superior evolution of the human species. Uh-huh. So superior, they didn’t dare actually put their assets in any _real_ danger. Instead, they tossed some toys around and used the idiots who got hooked. You go on and keep on sucking up to the Abyssal Serpentis there. I’ll keep shooting them all. > [@Issac\_Taredi](#): > > Arrendis strikes me as someone who would argue with you about the color of the sky. Im amazed anyone gives him the time of day. Ah, this tired chestnut from another fool who can’t _actually_ dispute any of the points made. More weakness on display from the faux-clades. ---
**Author:** ![Remilia\_Malitia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remilia_malitia/32/394766_2.png) [@Remilia\_Malitia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remilia_Malitia)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 5:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/from-the-kybernauts-of-new-eden-to-the-triglavian-collective/316593/27 "2021-06-17T17:48:32Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > Oh, you _may_, but then, one of your own already edited the text and the ‘speaking for Stribog’ bit _stayed in_. So while you _may_… I’m really betting you _may not_. Just assisted with the semiotics. Do not consider my assistance in translation any indication of endorsing this message, on my behalf or my Clade’s. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 5:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/from-the-kybernauts-of-new-eden-to-the-triglavian-collective/316593/28 "2021-06-17T17:50:18Z")
Sure. Totally trust that, what with your org’s history of honest discussion. Or is EM still supposed to be part of ARC, and responsible for what individual pilots do in ARC fleets? ---
**Author:** ![Remilia\_Malitia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remilia_malitia/32/394766_2.png) [@Remilia\_Malitia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remilia_Malitia)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 5:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/from-the-kybernauts-of-new-eden-to-the-triglavian-collective/316593/29 "2021-06-17T17:52:43Z")
That is not even the correct narrative. Not that it is at all relevant or belongs in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 5:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/from-the-kybernauts-of-new-eden-to-the-triglavian-collective/316593/30 "2021-06-17T17:52:51Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > Or is EM still supposed to be part of ARC, and responsible for what individual pilots do in ARC fleets? What? > [@Arrendis](#): > > internal drama Is it now? ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 5:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/from-the-kybernauts-of-new-eden-to-the-triglavian-collective/316593/31 "2021-06-17T17:56:00Z")
> [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](#): > > Is it now? Between Stribog and Kybernauts clades? Sahara claims so. > [@Remilia\_Malitia](#): > > That is not even the correct narrative. Frankly, I can’t be arsed to remember exactly _what_ the original framework of lies you were spinning was. You clearly remember getting called on it then, and that’s enough to demonstrate that I have no reason to believe your ‘totally not an endorsement now that Sahara’s trying to weasel away from it’ nonsense. ---
**Author:** ![Remilia\_Malitia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remilia_malitia/32/394766_2.png) [@Remilia\_Malitia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remilia_Malitia)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 5:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/from-the-kybernauts-of-new-eden-to-the-triglavian-collective/316593/32 "2021-06-17T17:58:05Z")
Never meant to be an endorsement. I don’t even have the authority to endorse something on behalf of anyone. You are reaching _way_ too hard. ---
**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 5:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/from-the-kybernauts-of-new-eden-to-the-triglavian-collective/316593/33 "2021-06-17T17:58:13Z")
Nice catch. Anyway. I expect Malitia is correct and whatever that ARC thing is about, it does not belong here. Continue with whatever it is that does. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 6:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/from-the-kybernauts-of-new-eden-to-the-triglavian-collective/316593/34 "2021-06-17T18:00:53Z")
I’m not reaching at all. You guys are the ones suddenly scrambling to distance yourself from a statement that _still_ purports to speak for Stribog. Internal drama or no, ‘hey, take our names off of that’ seems like the easiest thing in the world to say. The fact that Sahara clearly _hasn’t_ made that demand… ---
**Author:** ![YamiFreighter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yamifreighter/32/384441_2.png) [@YamiFreighter](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/YamiFreighter)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 6:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/from-the-kybernauts-of-new-eden-to-the-triglavian-collective/316593/35 "2021-06-17T18:08:06Z")
Stribog leadership was consulted and I wasn’t even the first mention the events here. Pochven is burning, we are burning it. Everyone paying attention knows this. Believing anything else means you are behind on current events or you are being willfully ignorant to push a narative. ---
**Author:** ![Sahara\_Jackal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sahara_jackal/32/296697_2.png) [@Sahara\_Jackal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sahara_Jackal)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 6:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/from-the-kybernauts-of-new-eden-to-the-triglavian-collective/316593/36 "2021-06-17T18:08:34Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > Frankly, I can’t be arsed to remember exactly _what_ the original framework of lies you were spinning was. You clearly remember getting called on it then, and that’s enough to demonstrate that I have no reason to believe your ‘totally not an endorsement now that Sahara’s trying to weasel away from it’ nonsense. Maybe you can’t remember it because it doesn’t exist. Just an idea. > [@Arrendis](#): > > I’m not reaching at all. You guys are the ones suddenly scrambling to distance yourself from a statement that _still_ purports to speak for Stribog. Internal drama or no, ‘hey, take our names off of that’ seems like the easiest thing in the world to say. The fact that Sahara clearly _hasn’t_ made that demand… Oh, and I was just told that Yami issued the communique with the express permission of the Paramount of Stribog Clade. It appears my concerns about clearances were unwarranted. The Paramount has spoken. EDIT: By the way, Ms. Culome: > [@Arrendis](#): > > Between Stribog and Kybernauts clades? Sahara claims so. Your habit of bending my _actual statements_ into ridiculous contortions makes you supremely unqualified to characterize _anything_ that I say. You are the epitome of the unreliable narrator. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 6:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/from-the-kybernauts-of-new-eden-to-the-triglavian-collective/316593/37 "2021-06-17T18:13:53Z")
Awwwww… and here _I_ wasn’t the one trying to claim Stribog leadership _really_ had a problem with it. Sahara was. Almost like she can’t even keep her own lies straight, anymore. > [@Sahara\_Jackal](#): > > Oh, and I was just told that Yami issued the communique with the express permission of the Paramount of Stribog Clade. It appears my concerns about clearances were unwarranted. The Paramount has spoken. _Gosh_, seems like the kind of thing a competent diplo would have checked on before making a whole string of posts about how much you disagree and you might have to have _words_ on this matter of ‘internal drama’. Unless, you know, you were full of fedo farts the whole time. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 6:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/from-the-kybernauts-of-new-eden-to-the-triglavian-collective/316593/38 "2021-06-17T18:16:06Z")
> [@Sahara\_Jackal](#): > > EDIT: By the way, Ms. Culome: > > > [@Arrendis](#): > > > > Between Stribog and Kybernauts clades? Sahara claims so. > > Your habit of bending my _actual statements_ into ridiculous contortions You mean this one of your actual statements? > [@Sahara\_Jackal](#): > > Oh, I may have words for Yami and his use of Stribog Clade’s name. . . but unlike you, I prefer not to air internal drama in public fora. Cuz you know, that sure as hell looks like you saying drama between Stribog and Kybernauts would be **internal drama**. But nice try claiming I’m ‘bending’ your actual statement by using it to mean _exactly the context you used it in_. ---
**Author:** ![YamiFreighter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yamifreighter/32/384441_2.png) [@YamiFreighter](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/YamiFreighter)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 6:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/from-the-kybernauts-of-new-eden-to-the-triglavian-collective/316593/39 "2021-06-17T18:16:27Z")
Caution is a virtue. This message wasn’t done through diplomatic channels. @Arrendis You are being incredibly petty. Quit while you have a shred of dignity left. ---
**Author:** ![Sahara\_Jackal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sahara_jackal/32/296697_2.png) [@Sahara\_Jackal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sahara_Jackal)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/from-the-kybernauts-of-new-eden-to-the-triglavian-collective/316593/40 "2021-06-17T18:17:20Z")
> [@YamiFreighter](#): > > @Arrendis You are being incredibly petty. Quit while you have a shred of dignity left. Too ■■■■■■■ late for that, comrade. Heh. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/from-the-kybernauts-of-new-eden-to-the-triglavian-collective/316593/41 "2021-06-17T18:17:37Z")
Oh, honey, you clearly have no idea how little I care what you think of me. Demonstrating what abject idiots you all are is _fun_. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/from-the-kybernauts-of-new-eden-to-the-triglavian-collective/316593.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/from-the-kybernauts-of-new-eden-to-the-triglavian-collective/316593.md?page=3)