# From the Kybernauts of New Eden to The Triglavian Collective **URL:** \ **Category:** Intergalactic Summit\ **Created:** [June 17, 2021, 1:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/from-the-kybernauts-of-new-eden-to-the-triglavian-collective/316593 "2021-06-17T13:40:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Issac\_Taredi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/issac_taredi/32/435383_2.png) [@Issac\_Taredi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Issac_Taredi)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 6:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/from-the-kybernauts-of-new-eden-to-the-triglavian-collective/316593/42 "2021-06-17T18:20:49Z")
Arrendis arguing with me about him being pointlessly argumentative is peak Arrendis ---
**Author:** ![Sahara\_Jackal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sahara_jackal/32/296697_2.png) [@Sahara\_Jackal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sahara_Jackal)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 6:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/from-the-kybernauts-of-new-eden-to-the-triglavian-collective/316593/43 "2021-06-17T18:22:11Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > Cuz you know, that sure as hell looks like you saying drama between Stribog and Kybernauts would be **internal drama**. But nice try claiming I’m ‘bending’ your actual statement by using it to mean _exactly the context you used it in_. Yeeees, any questions about what internal authorizations existed prior to the issuance of a public statement would, by definition, be _internal drama_. Thank the malevolent Amarrian God that you were here to straighten _that_ out, Arrendis! What ever would we do without your monumentally vital contributions to the discussion? Someone should erect a statue to your extraordinary munificence! _Oh, wait. . ._ ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 6:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/from-the-kybernauts-of-new-eden-to-the-triglavian-collective/316593/44 "2021-06-17T18:23:11Z")
> [@Sahara\_Jackal](#): > > Yeeees, any questions about what internal authorizations existed prior to the issuance of a public statement would, by definition, be _internal drama_. Well, then I guess _this_… > [@Sahara\_Jackal](#): > > EDIT: By the way, Ms. Culome: > > > [@Arrendis](#): > > > > Between Stribog and Kybernauts clades? Sahara claims so. > > Your habit of bending my _actual statements_ into ridiculous contortions makes you supremely unqualified to characterize _anything_ that I say. You are the epitome of the unreliable narrator. Is just you attempting to be dishonest again, _huh_? Cuz I seem to have characterized what you said accurately, without bending or contortion. ---
**Author:** ![Sahara\_Jackal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sahara_jackal/32/296697_2.png) [@Sahara\_Jackal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sahara_Jackal)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 6:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/from-the-kybernauts-of-new-eden-to-the-triglavian-collective/316593/45 "2021-06-17T18:31:59Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > Is just you attempting to be dishonest again, _huh_? Cuz I seem to have characterized what you said accurately, without bending or contortion. Except you _didn’t,_ because the characterization you and Elsebeth suggested was a different one than what I actually said. Note in particular the use of the word _may_ in my original statement, which indicates _potential_ rather than _certainty._ By the way, however much you paid for basic literacy schooling as a child, I want a percentage for the labor I keep having to exert to correct your atrocious misuses. Rest assured, if I decide to start lying as a matter of general practice, you’ll know immediately; the first thing I will say is _how much I value and adore the contributions of Arrendis Culome to IGS discourse._ ---
**Author:** ![DragoFire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dragofire/32/257926_2.png) [@DragoFire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DragoFire)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 6:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/from-the-kybernauts-of-new-eden-to-the-triglavian-collective/316593/46 "2021-06-17T18:47:56Z")
> [@Sahara\_Jackal](#): > > Your habit of bending my _actual statements_ into ridiculous contortions makes you supremely unqualified to characterize _anything_ that I say. You are the epitome of the unreliable narrator. You should know by now the EVE forums are full of toxic trolls that cherry pick from someone’s post to make a point that doesn’t exist. Anyone can do this, but it takes a real moral person to actually state the true context they refer to, but sadly these forums have very few of these and made up of more toxic haters and the self delusional. ---
**Author:** ![Sabbat\_Saint](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabbat_saint/32/277772_2.png) [@Sabbat\_Saint](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabbat_Saint)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 7:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/from-the-kybernauts-of-new-eden-to-the-triglavian-collective/316593/47 "2021-06-17T19:08:46Z")
@Sahara_Jackal after looking at some ancient texts and conferring with the other two voices in my head. @Arrendis is what the ancients called a troll with nothing better happening in their life. Well the voices are reminding me to take my mutaplasmid bath to get the poshlost stink off me because of said troll. ---
**Author:** ![Katya\_Hilitari](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/katya_hilitari/32/424643_2.png) [@Katya\_Hilitari](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Katya_Hilitari)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 7:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/from-the-kybernauts-of-new-eden-to-the-triglavian-collective/316593/48 "2021-06-17T19:14:34Z")
> [@Solonius\_Rex](#): > > Edencome back. Eden-welcomes you. Eden is a great place. No more stumbling around in the poorly lit corridors, constantly stubbing your foot because you cant see 2 feet in front of you, or 10 inches below you. We have well-lit corridors. Our beaches actually have suns and sunlight. Edencom is just better. It’s actually perfectly visible if you can see into the infrared. Just as much sun and sunlight too. And you get a lot less sunburns when you don’t have to worry about ultraviolet light exposure. ---
**Author:** ![Sahara\_Jackal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sahara_jackal/32/296697_2.png) [@Sahara\_Jackal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sahara_Jackal)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 7:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/from-the-kybernauts-of-new-eden-to-the-triglavian-collective/316593/49 "2021-06-17T19:19:22Z")
> [@DragoFire](#): > > toxic trolls that cherry pick from someone’s post to make a point that doesn’t exist. > [@Sabbat\_Saint](#): > > @Arrendis is what the ancients called a troll with nothing better happening in their life. Heh. While I appreciate your sentiments come from a place of support, you needn’t worry. Skewering Arrendis in words is almost as satisfying as shelling the ship hulls of her beloved Arsia. Until Mittens and the Paramount agree that we can shoot each other, that will have to do. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 7:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/from-the-kybernauts-of-new-eden-to-the-triglavian-collective/316593/50 "2021-06-17T19:26:57Z")
Awwww, lookit that. You have your little idiot brigade eager to defend your stupidity, and doing it _badly_. So adorable. > [@Sahara\_Jackal](#): > > Except you _didn’t,_ because the characterization you and Elsebeth suggested was a different one than what I actually said. Except, again, no. Elsebeth asked a question, and I responded by indicating that the internal drama I was speaking of was the drama _you_ cited. I made no statement there about it being more certain than it was when you cast it, or in any way changing the context. All I did was indicate that the drama in question—potential or otherwise—was between you and Yami, as representatives of Stribog and Kybernauts. Any claim you want to make beyond that about the bit you quoted, well, I know none of us will be shocked by you lying some more. ---
**Author:** ![Alexcat\_Johnson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alexcat_johnson/32/240838_2.png) [@Alexcat\_Johnson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alexcat_Johnson)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 7:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/from-the-kybernauts-of-new-eden-to-the-triglavian-collective/316593/51 "2021-06-17T19:58:05Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > Well, you know, it’s hard to be humble when you’re as great as I am. [Get a load of this guy](https://imgur.com/a/EJH778U) ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 8:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/from-the-kybernauts-of-new-eden-to-the-triglavian-collective/316593/52 "2021-06-17T20:02:30Z")
There there. I’m sure eventually, three or four members of your little club will rub their lone braincells together enough to explain the joke to you. ---
**Author:** ![Jennifer\_Maxwell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jennifer_maxwell/32/319582_2.png) [@Jennifer\_Maxwell](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jennifer_Maxwell)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 8:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/from-the-kybernauts-of-new-eden-to-the-triglavian-collective/316593/53 "2021-06-17T20:17:34Z")
I have yet to give you any reason to be interested in who I am. ---
**Author:** ![Raven\_Moore](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/raven_moore/32/464693_2.png) [@Raven\_Moore](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Raven_Moore)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 9:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/from-the-kybernauts-of-new-eden-to-the-triglavian-collective/316593/54 "2021-06-17T21:32:14Z")
![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/6/b/c/6bc29eb4ec1c96c70b032e57980c3bb0b67c8cf5.png) ---
**Author:** ![Clyde\_ElectraGlide](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/clyde_electraglide/32/389606_2.png) [@Clyde\_ElectraGlide](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Clyde_ElectraGlide)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 10:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/from-the-kybernauts-of-new-eden-to-the-triglavian-collective/316593/55 "2021-06-17T22:02:30Z")
Ain’t nobody even gonna try’ta listen to this nonsense of yours lest you translate it. All I see is “yes, please, shoot more Trigs! It’s just proving, they like it!” ---
**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 10:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/from-the-kybernauts-of-new-eden-to-the-triglavian-collective/316593/56 "2021-06-17T22:32:29Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > … to defend your stupidity, and doing it _badly_. Cease such outrageous hypocrisy at once. It’s laughable. Leave speakers on the forums alone and play with your favorite ductape or something instead. ---
**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 10:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/from-the-kybernauts-of-new-eden-to-the-triglavian-collective/316593/57 "2021-06-17T22:41:54Z")
> [@Solonius\_Rex](#): > > All you are are posers. You are not triglavian. You will never be triglavian. Stop talking like the triggies. At least be honest and talk like normals. Stop acting like triglavians. Youre only fooling yourselves. They will never accept you. You will never be equal to them. They actually write to Triglavians. > [@Solonius\_Rex](#): > > Edencome back. Eden-welcomes you. Eden is a great place. No more stumbling around in the poorly lit corridors, constantly stubbing your foot because you cant see 2 feet in front of you, or 10 inches below you. We have well-lit corridors. Our beaches actually have suns and sunlight. Edencom is just better. If that is your argument for joining, I am not surprised how our glorious Caldari Navy have failed so much with the Edencom command and guidance. I also recommend you to use standard length measure units instead of what… ‘feet’? Or noses, or fingers, or whatever, like it’s some sort of pre-Raata era. Wake up. It’s YC123 behind the window already. ---
**Author:** ![Sabbat\_Saint](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabbat_saint/32/277772_2.png) [@Sabbat\_Saint](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabbat_Saint)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 1:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/from-the-kybernauts-of-new-eden-to-the-triglavian-collective/316593/58 "2021-06-18T01:27:04Z")
@Arrendis soo “I just to here REEEEE!” is all I hear when you post. Cool story. So new sub sub sub clade “The Idiot Brigade” thanks for the name. But the mutaplasmid bath is soooo nice. It helps the voices in my head. ---
**Author:** ![Storitella](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/storitella/32/277793_2.png) [@Storitella](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Storitella)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 1:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/from-the-kybernauts-of-new-eden-to-the-triglavian-collective/316593/59 "2021-06-18T01:46:54Z")
[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/3/1/7/31779d075dcd616d27bf6f44bb78aef170fca9f9.jpeg "Let It Burn - Maldavius - Stribog Clade") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XsFngmg-j0) Is this the whole story? Are there more voices to be heard? ---
**Author:** ![Erwin\_Kroner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erwin_kroner/32/378866_2.png) [@Erwin\_Kroner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Erwin_Kroner)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 3:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/from-the-kybernauts-of-new-eden-to-the-triglavian-collective/316593/60 "2021-06-18T03:10:47Z")
> [@Storitella](#): > > Is this the whole story? > Are there more voices to be heard? I’ve no idea. The oversimplified version I gathered is that ever since most of the Triglavian gates opened up to all capsuleers, the Kybernauts are getting overwhelmed trying to defend their structures from constant attacks from unaffiliated corporations supporting pro-EDENCOM capsuleers. So they’re razing their remaining ones in favour of staking out in Triglavian-controlled stations (i.e. the ones that formerly belonged to the empires themselves), probably because there’s no feasible way to assail those without actual support from EDENCOM. ---
**Author:** ![Katya\_Hilitari](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/katya_hilitari/32/424643_2.png) [@Katya\_Hilitari](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Katya_Hilitari)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 4:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/from-the-kybernauts-of-new-eden-to-the-triglavian-collective/316593/61 "2021-06-18T04:33:50Z")
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