# Future of PVP **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [June 3, 2022, 3:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/future-of-pvp/365513 "2022-06-03T15:02:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2022, 5:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/future-of-pvp/365513/62 "2022-06-06T17:32:25Z")
All you fly is a hawk šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2022, 5:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/future-of-pvp/365513/63 "2022-06-06T17:33:18Z")
Iā€™ve had 3 chars since 2007 first one got to 110mil sp deleted it started again becuase I was bored got to 110mil sp again deleted now started again 3 months ago. And some of those missions are done with 500mil fits metawise and I found it fun and challenging doing it in a 60mil hawk but that challenge is now gone šŸ˜• need some new challenge. ---
**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2022, 5:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/future-of-pvp/365513/64 "2022-06-06T17:35:18Z")
I bet you havenā€™t really used a thunderchild. ---
**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2022, 5:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/future-of-pvp/365513/65 "2022-06-06T17:35:40Z")
Nope never flown one, but im at 20mil sp now so will be awhile before I can try it xD ---
**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2022, 5:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/future-of-pvp/365513/66 "2022-06-06T17:37:44Z")
Go for the smaller versions then. Have to be careful tho, arcing onto another player gets you in trouble, which is half the fun. ---
**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2022, 5:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/future-of-pvp/365513/67 "2022-06-06T17:39:23Z")
Perhaps try some hilarious ships for solo pvp, that are known not to work for solo at all. You have hybrid skills, go fly a solo Naga. Dunk Hecates in med neut AB stabbers. ---
**Author:** ![Ursula\_Anders](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ursula_anders/32/331878_2.png) [@Ursula\_Anders](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ursula_Anders)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2022, 5:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/future-of-pvp/365513/68 "2022-06-06T17:42:30Z")
> [@Aisha\_Katalen](#): > > shake things up and try completely different play styles That takes a little time and more SP. Thereā€™s a lot I want to try but I canā€™t buy a module or a ship and it has to stay in dock because I chose to not use injectors and wait the two months training or three weeksā€¦ > [@Aisha\_Katalen](#): > > But also very much: stop min maxing both for pve as for pvp. Some ships are just very good to the point where they take little effort, achievement and dare I say it, pride EVE isnā€™t a game that anyone can master witin a few weeks. I also expect to make a lot of mistakes and will learn from them. I also like to test things out and see how far I can push the envelope. If it costs me 100mil isk oh well. > [@Aisha\_Katalen](#): > > Use ships that arenā€™t obvious, that require more effort. So many people optimise the fun out of games to then say its boring Not so obvious I can agree with; more effort isnā€™t so appealing during a time when Iā€™m climbing this: ![learningcurve](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/2X/9/9a395dad41a3cccfecd1346e6bc4aa48beb14442.jpg) I mean, Iā€™m a trooper but I have my limits. ---
**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2022, 5:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/future-of-pvp/365513/69 "2022-06-06T17:48:39Z")
Itā€™s advice for someone who says heā€™s done ā€œeverythingā€. ---
**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2022, 5:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/future-of-pvp/365513/70 "2022-06-06T17:49:29Z")
If you want to climb that then there is 3 links I can give you packed with knowledge in a compressed format: > **[Combat Mechanics | EVE Academy | EVE Online](https://www.eveonline.com/eve-academy/ships/combat-mechanics)** > > To properly wield your ship in combat it is important to understand the principles guiding the many weapons, tactics, and countermeasures available. https://www.youtube.com/embed/86s_iJYDS_Q?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque&list=PLr2yR_zVuIi1Q3kRG5tktAeXyaPtWGU8V > **[eveiseasy](https://www.youtube.com/c/eveiseasy)** > > Eveiseasy is a youtube channel aimed at proving high-quality PvP focused educational content for Eve Online. Itā€™s not only for pvp those piloting methods is what I use to beat the hardest pve content with cheaper less sp shipā€™s its very useful, hope you find them interesting. ---
**Author:** ![Rocket\_Hellfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rocket_hellfire/32/396905_2.png) [@Rocket\_Hellfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rocket_Hellfire)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2022, 7:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/future-of-pvp/365513/71 "2022-06-06T19:18:56Z")
n+1 That is Eve Onlineā€¦ literally 99% of the game right there. ---
**Author:** ![Zlaraki\_Kenpachi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zlaraki_kenpachi/32/286957_2.png) [@Zlaraki\_Kenpachi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zlaraki_Kenpachi)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 7:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/future-of-pvp/365513/72 "2022-06-07T07:06:20Z")
80-150 missions high sec, is that with salvage? ---
**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 7:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/future-of-pvp/365513/73 "2022-06-07T07:19:21Z")
Depends on mission tbh, just keep a sheet and write down the time and how much you get from each and you will be able to tell which oneā€™s are worth it, personally I just skip loot and salvage unless its tagā€™s. ---
**Author:** ![Alice\_Saki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alice_saki/32/486142_2.png) [@Alice\_Saki](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alice_Saki)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 7:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/future-of-pvp/365513/74 "2022-06-07T07:32:08Z")
try making a Decent Ashimmu fit, now thats a challenge xD ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2022, 7:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/future-of-pvp/365513/75 "2022-09-05T07:32:53Z")
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