# FW Alliance Leaderboards for Victory Points and/or Loyalty Point Awards **URL:** \ **Category:** Player Features & Ideas\ **Tags:** faction-war\ **Created:** [February 7, 2023, 1:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-alliance-leaderboards-for-victory-points-and-or-loyalty-point-awards/394621 "2023-02-07T01:44:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Canaith\_Lydian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/canaith_lydian/32/424214_2.png) [@Canaith\_Lydian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Canaith_Lydian)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2023, 1:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-alliance-leaderboards-for-victory-points-and-or-loyalty-point-awards/394621/1 "2023-02-07T01:44:31Z")
I am trying to find a way to build an Alliance Leaderboard for Victory Points or Loyalty points in Faction Warfare as a way to incentivize activities that help flip systems. “You always get what you measure,” and right now we can only really measure kills. Is there a way for the API to return a leaderboard that is broken down by alliance, or if nothing else, by Militia? ---
**Author:** ![Rail\_J\_kar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rail_j_kar/32/374429_2.png) [@Rail\_J\_kar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rail_J_kar)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2023, 9:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-alliance-leaderboards-for-victory-points-and-or-loyalty-point-awards/394621/2 "2023-02-07T21:16:56Z")
I think one already exists… but I’m not sure in what capacity. I saw a youtuber showcase one… but it might have just been an internal corp self reported thing. ---
**Author:** ![Canaith\_Lydian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/canaith_lydian/32/424214_2.png) [@Canaith\_Lydian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Canaith_Lydian)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2023, 9:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-alliance-leaderboards-for-victory-points-and-or-loyalty-point-awards/394621/3 "2023-02-07T21:35:35Z")
There is an endpoint in the Eve API that returns a leaderboard for all of FW, but it doesn’t have a way that I’ve found to trim that by militia faction or player alliance/corp. ---
**Author:** ![Rail\_J\_kar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rail_j_kar/32/374429_2.png) [@Rail\_J\_kar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rail_J_kar)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2023, 9:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-alliance-leaderboards-for-victory-points-and-or-loyalty-point-awards/394621/4 "2023-02-07T21:52:39Z")
I’d recommend talking to @Ashterothi … as he can probably put you in touch with the developer behind the tool they use. ---
**Author:** ![Ashterothi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ashterothi/32/459299_2.png) [@Ashterothi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ashterothi)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2023, 4:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-alliance-leaderboards-for-victory-points-and-or-loyalty-point-awards/394621/5 "2023-02-09T16:16:10Z")
o/ ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/a/7/fa7042fe6b3c8cc400a78d59e5590cd6059f8087.jpeg) Right now it is for AIDER only, but we are talking to others about making one available publicly. The issue is that we have to read the notification feed of the individuals involved, which is quite a bit of trust for some people. ---
**Author:** ![Canaith\_Lydian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/canaith_lydian/32/424214_2.png) [@Canaith\_Lydian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Canaith_Lydian)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2023, 4:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-alliance-leaderboards-for-victory-points-and-or-loyalty-point-awards/394621/6 "2023-02-09T16:44:45Z")
I wonder if its worth trying to get a new api call from CCP. ---
**Author:** ![Canaith\_Lydian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/canaith_lydian/32/424214_2.png) [@Canaith\_Lydian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Canaith_Lydian)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2023, 5:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-alliance-leaderboards-for-victory-points-and-or-loyalty-point-awards/394621/7 "2023-02-09T17:19:18Z")
Reading the notification feed for those numbers was brilliant… and crazy… at the same time. Kudos to the folks that came up with it. ---
**Author:** ![Ashterothi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ashterothi/32/459299_2.png) [@Ashterothi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ashterothi)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2023, 5:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-alliance-leaderboards-for-victory-points-and-or-loyalty-point-awards/394621/8 "2023-02-09T17:37:15Z")
You can get things like victory points from the standard API endpoint but for things like number of plexs or amount of LP you have to dig through the notifications. ---
**Author:** ![Vaelyth\_Plaen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vaelyth_plaen/32/354004_2.png) [@Vaelyth\_Plaen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vaelyth_Plaen)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2023, 10:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-alliance-leaderboards-for-victory-points-and-or-loyalty-point-awards/394621/9 "2023-02-09T22:26:49Z")
You can get total VP for whole corps but designing a corp leaderboard is more complicated. Current endpoints are: for a single character (which requires authentication for each character for whom you want to collect data) and for a corporation (i.e., the TOTAL number of VP collected by a corporation, not on a per-character basis). CCP has provided a leaderboard, BUT the data are for ALL of FW, not for a specific militia or corp. It would be nice if we could at least get a breakdown per militia. V ---
**Author:** ![Rail\_J\_kar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rail_j_kar/32/374429_2.png) [@Rail\_J\_kar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rail_J_kar)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2023, 4:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-alliance-leaderboards-for-victory-points-and-or-loyalty-point-awards/394621/10 "2023-02-10T16:42:09Z")
Looks like CCP is on it boys and girls. > **[Introducing Factional Warfare Leaderboards | EVE Online](https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/introducing-factional-warfare-leaderboards?origin=launcher&utm_medium=app&utm_source=launcher_steam&utm_content=en)** > > How do you compare to the best? ---
**Author:** ![Ashterothi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ashterothi/32/459299_2.png) [@Ashterothi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ashterothi)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2023, 5:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-alliance-leaderboards-for-victory-points-and-or-loyalty-point-awards/394621/11 "2023-02-10T17:22:53Z")
only the top three is kinda sad IMO. We need a much much larger list IMO. TBH it just drives people to cheese the system to take the top three. Additionally, all this covers is VP and kills, both of which are already available via Zkill and FW Stats. ---
**Author:** ![Canaith\_Lydian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/canaith_lydian/32/424214_2.png) [@Canaith\_Lydian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Canaith_Lydian)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2023, 5:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-alliance-leaderboards-for-victory-points-and-or-loyalty-point-awards/394621/12 "2023-02-10T17:44:39Z")
This is at least a start. Would be very nice if this eventually became available by corp or alliance. The advantage to this approach is that people don’t have to write custom gizmos that require user auth to see it. ---
**Author:** ![Canaith\_Lydian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/canaith_lydian/32/424214_2.png) [@Canaith\_Lydian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Canaith_Lydian)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2023, 6:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-alliance-leaderboards-for-victory-points-and-or-loyalty-point-awards/394621/13 "2023-02-10T18:16:06Z")
Also, I don’t agree with the stated reason for the leaderboard: > The leaderboards will be split up by kills and Victory Points, to give players who aren’t as interested in direct PvP the opportunity to have their contributions recognized as well. That’s not why we need the numbers. We need the numbers because it is victory points and not kills that advances the war in FW. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2023, 6:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-alliance-leaderboards-for-victory-points-and-or-loyalty-point-awards/394621/14 "2023-05-11T18:16:33Z")
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