# FW: Camping Trade Hubs, exploit or legitimate pvp tactic? **URL:** \ **Category:** Warfare & Tactics\ **Created:** [July 31, 2024, 3:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-camping-trade-hubs-exploit-or-legitimate-pvp-tactic/457398 "2024-07-31T03:21:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 10:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-camping-trade-hubs-exploit-or-legitimate-pvp-tactic/457398/81 "2024-07-31T22:18:22Z")
He disregards the EULA entirely so don’t think he will find it a convincing argument. I think he argues that international laws and regulations apply and are above national laws. Btw good luck enforcing those or even just spending the money to journey on such a legal endeavor. 🙃 Especially when even according to any national or international law he is wrong. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![MarquisAndras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/marquisandras/32/434516_2.png) [@MarquisAndras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MarquisAndras)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 10:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-camping-trade-hubs-exploit-or-legitimate-pvp-tactic/457398/82 "2024-07-31T22:18:38Z")
Yes, I’m not really interested in what’s in the TOS or EULA if CCP offers its product in my country under the laws that apply here. A company can write a lot in its general terms and conditions if the day is long. ---
**Author:** ![Andlaust](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andlaust/32/422007_2.png) [@Andlaust](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andlaust)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 10:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-camping-trade-hubs-exploit-or-legitimate-pvp-tactic/457398/83 "2024-07-31T22:20:25Z")
My mention of the US legal system was referring to how OP wants all rules spelled out for him, telling him what he is allowed to do rather than what he’s not allowed to do. The way most legal systems in the world work, the government tells the citizens what is legal, and anything else is considered illegal. In the US, and a few other places as this is changing, the legal system tells you what you cannot do, and you can do everything else until it’s made illegal. Most game companies base their rule systems on the US legal system, because it is easier for them to write a list of Don’ts than to write a list of Dos. As far as OP’s silly little fraud suggestion, like I said, he’s not the first person to think of that stupidity, and not one on Earth has ever gotten past preliminary hearings before being dismissed. ---
**Author:** ![Andlaust](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andlaust/32/422007_2.png) [@Andlaust](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andlaust)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 10:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-camping-trade-hubs-exploit-or-legitimate-pvp-tactic/457398/84 "2024-07-31T22:22:34Z")
> [@MarquisAndras](#): > > Yes, I’m not really interested in what’s in the TOS or EULA if CCP offers its product in my country under the laws that apply here. A company can write a lot in its general terms and conditions if the day is long. You obviously know as much about law as you do EvE. 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![MarquisAndras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/marquisandras/32/434516_2.png) [@MarquisAndras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MarquisAndras)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 10:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-camping-trade-hubs-exploit-or-legitimate-pvp-tactic/457398/85 "2024-07-31T22:22:37Z")
This is not about the differences between the case law and other legal systems. If a company wants to offer its product in a country, it has to follow the local legal framework. This is not about the legal system itself. ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 10:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-camping-trade-hubs-exploit-or-legitimate-pvp-tactic/457398/86 "2024-07-31T22:24:25Z")
Are you the person who sued McDonald’s because their coffee was hot, and now we have to have warning labels on everything? ---
**Author:** ![MarquisAndras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/marquisandras/32/434516_2.png) [@MarquisAndras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MarquisAndras)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 10:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-camping-trade-hubs-exploit-or-legitimate-pvp-tactic/457398/87 "2024-07-31T22:25:15Z")
Off topic, but no… 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Andlaust](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andlaust/32/422007_2.png) [@Andlaust](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andlaust)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 10:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-camping-trade-hubs-exploit-or-legitimate-pvp-tactic/457398/88 "2024-07-31T22:25:34Z")
I wasn’t talking to you. Follow the little picture that has the reply arrow in the upper right of the post. You’ve already established you have no f\*cking clue what you’re talking about and we can just ignore you on this. ---
**Author:** ![Andlaust](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andlaust/32/422007_2.png) [@Andlaust](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andlaust)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 10:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-camping-trade-hubs-exploit-or-legitimate-pvp-tactic/457398/89 "2024-07-31T22:26:55Z")
Nah, she had a legit complaint. 3rd degree burns and skin grafts in sensitive areas and all. He’s one of the two kids who ate 6 Whoppers a day and tried to sue Burger King for making them fat. They claimed BK never told them that many Whoppers were unhealthy. Courts determined anyone with a basic level of sense could figure that out and dismissed it the first hearing. ---
**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 10:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-camping-trade-hubs-exploit-or-legitimate-pvp-tactic/457398/90 "2024-07-31T22:28:20Z")
> [@MarquisAndras](#): > > CCP offers its product in my country under the laws that apply here. It makes no difference, Marquis. The game is _published_ in Iceland. You simply have access to it - and you signed to that effect. The developers are wise enough not to ruffle legal feathers, but if you want to sue them, you won’t be able to do so in the USA. Book a flight to Reykjavik, head to the District Court. I’ve read all of this thread, but I still can’t understand why you don’t simply put your point of view directly to the Company, and wait for their response. You seem dissatisfied with the comments and suggestions made here. Over to you lot… ---
**Author:** ![MarquisAndras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/marquisandras/32/434516_2.png) [@MarquisAndras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MarquisAndras)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 10:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-camping-trade-hubs-exploit-or-legitimate-pvp-tactic/457398/91 "2024-07-31T22:28:21Z")
OK, as I said, portraying me as incompetent just because you don’t like my opinion won’t get you anywhere. I just don’t understand why I’m being attacked like this. I’m just a simple player and not the alliance leader of PL or anything like that. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 10:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-camping-trade-hubs-exploit-or-legitimate-pvp-tactic/457398/92 "2024-07-31T22:28:41Z")
> [@Andlaust](#): > > He’s one of the two kids who ate 6 Whoppers a day and tried to sue Burger King for making them fat. They claimed BK never told them that many Whoppers were unhealthy. Think of the children! They never consented to PvP. 🙃 😏 😇 ---
**Author:** ![Andlaust](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andlaust/32/422007_2.png) [@Andlaust](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andlaust)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 10:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-camping-trade-hubs-exploit-or-legitimate-pvp-tactic/457398/93 "2024-07-31T22:30:54Z")
> [@MarquisAndras](#): > > OK, as I said, portraying me as incompetent just because you don’t like my opinion won’t get you anywhere. Yeah, and as I said, I’m not the one portraying you as incompetent. You’re managing that all on your own without any assistance from me. You just keep on going, because you’re also doing all the discrediting on your own as well. > [@MarquisAndras](#): > > I just don’t understand why I’m being attacked like this. I’m just a simple player and not the alliance leader of PL or anything like that. Literally all you have to do is stop posting about sh!t you know nothing about. If someone is riding a horse, but trying to tell you it’s a duck, you’re not “silencing” them by pointing out it’s a horse. ---
**Author:** ![MarquisAndras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/marquisandras/32/434516_2.png) [@MarquisAndras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MarquisAndras)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 10:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-camping-trade-hubs-exploit-or-legitimate-pvp-tactic/457398/94 "2024-07-31T22:32:00Z")
I have made a legal request to CCP, and if I want to implement the data protection regulations of my country, my account will simply be closed. For once, this is off topic for me. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Andlaust](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andlaust/32/422007_2.png) [@Andlaust](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andlaust)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 10:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-camping-trade-hubs-exploit-or-legitimate-pvp-tactic/457398/95 "2024-07-31T22:34:30Z")
Okay? And? You think this matters to us? Or that your personal information is somehow at risk because people are disagreeing with you online? Kind of extreme, but not outside your psychosis. You do you, bro. 🤷 ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 10:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-camping-trade-hubs-exploit-or-legitimate-pvp-tactic/457398/96 "2024-07-31T22:35:51Z")
If that also means you biomass or quit EVE then beforehand don’t forget to contract all your stuff to: > [@Operation Magic School Bus](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/operation-magic-school-bus/5352): > > If you are in the career systems keep an eye on local. I drop in, (Usually 2x a week), and hand out free fitted frigates/destroyers and even the occasional cruiser as appropriate to the location and age of pilot. This initiative is sponsored by older players who have donate isk and materials to give the new players a hand up. If you are under 30 days old as a pilot? Speak up before i leave and you will get a ship, wait till I say ‘later gators’ and you will have to wait until next time I pass… ---
**Author:** ![MarquisAndras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/marquisandras/32/434516_2.png) [@MarquisAndras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MarquisAndras)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 10:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-camping-trade-hubs-exploit-or-legitimate-pvp-tactic/457398/97 "2024-07-31T22:38:06Z")
Well, if you have a question, you don’t know the answer yet, unless it’s a purely rhetorical question, but then I’ll be called a demagogue again. I wasn’t talking to you. Follow the little picture that has the reply arrow in the upper right of the post. Assuming I have problems where there are none just won’t get you anywhere, as I said. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 10:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-camping-trade-hubs-exploit-or-legitimate-pvp-tactic/457398/98 "2024-07-31T22:39:11Z")
Heigh-ho. Someone who cannot see the truth is simply ignorant. No shame; ignorance can be removed by education. Someone who wilfully refuses to see the truth is either stupid or blinded by grandiosity. Neither of these is currently treatable. Relax, Marquis. I think you simply wandered into the hornet’s nest of EVE-O Forum warfare. Take a breather; that’s what I’m going to do… ---
**Author:** ![MarquisAndras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/marquisandras/32/434516_2.png) [@MarquisAndras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MarquisAndras)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 10:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-camping-trade-hubs-exploit-or-legitimate-pvp-tactic/457398/99 "2024-07-31T22:40:07Z")
No, I just wanted to know what happens if I want to implement data protection guidelines that apply in my country. That’s all, I guess you’re allowed to ask. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![MarquisAndras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/marquisandras/32/434516_2.png) [@MarquisAndras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MarquisAndras)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 10:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-camping-trade-hubs-exploit-or-legitimate-pvp-tactic/457398/100 "2024-07-31T22:40:59Z")
It is not ignorant to have your own point of view, I am completely relaxed, but I am not so sure about others here. 🙂 [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-camping-trade-hubs-exploit-or-legitimate-pvp-tactic/457398.md?page=4) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-camping-trade-hubs-exploit-or-legitimate-pvp-tactic/457398.md?page=6)